Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Fred asked > What concentration of IPA were you using? 99% Laboratory grade. Not very pleasant to have on the skin, it dries it out shockingly. > There might be a difference in results between 70% and 91% > > There might also even be a difference in the oxide formulation between > brands. (If C

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Terry Stewart via cctalk
Just my experience, I once did a trial where I took two identical 5,25 inch disks of the same batch from the same manufacturer. These were clean disks which both formatted and verified just fine, but I wanted to see if IPA did indeed damage the disk. One I swabbed one with 75% IPA, the other wit

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, dwight wrote: I've had the goo from the adhesive of 5.25 inch 360k disk come through the nice liner and make gobs on the disk. I tried several thing but found that isopropanol worked without removing any of the magnetic material ( maybe s tiny amount that was likely loose a

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 11 Jul 2018, at 09:33, Terry Stewart via cctalk > wrote: > > Just my experience, I once did a trial where I took two identical 5,25 > inch disks of the same batch from the same manufacturer. These were clean > disks which both formatted and verified just fine, but I wanted to see if > I

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 11 Jul 2018, at 03:15, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > No, no, no! Do not use isopropanol to clean floppies--you'll wind up > with a soft oxide coating and a brown rag. Were these mine, I'd first > remove them from their jackets and then bake them and then clean them > with distilled

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/11/18 2:21 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > I use Screen 99 for cleaning floppies MSDS https://store.comet.bg/download-file.php?id=16956 first ingredient listed; isopropyl alcohol

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/11/2018 02:53 AM, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote: > What temperature oven? 58C +/- 0.5C --Chuck

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/11/18 8:20 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 7/11/18 2:21 AM, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > >> I use Screen 99 for cleaning floppies > > MSDS > > https://store.comet.bg/download-file.php?id=16956 > > first ingredient listed; isopropyl alcohol > > Since I haven't menti

RE: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
Be wary though, domestic ovens apparently fluctuate wildly. I did have success with some TK50s in our fan oven set at 40C Sent from my Windows 10 phone From: Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: 11 July 2018 16:31 To: Adrian Graham via cctalk Subject: Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying On 07/11/2018 02:53 A

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/11/18 8:57 AM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > Be wary though, domestic ovens apparently fluctuate wildly. Use a food dehydrator this is the unit I use for QIC tapes (weston 10 tray stainless steel dehydrator model 74-1001-2) https://www.ebay.com/itm//113143490361 but I do them a coupl

RE: 360 Technologies selloff

2018-07-11 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
Are there any HP resellers left now that have their own inventory and don't speculatively list parts that they don't have or never had? Sure! The problem is that most of them don't know that collectors still want old stuff. Continental Computers in Calif has old DEC, SUN, and old and new HP stuf

Re: 360 Technologies selloff

2018-07-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 at 18:58, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > If there are not too many requests, you can send me PN, and I can see who is > ACTUALLY listing them, not just advertising. Well, I'm still looking for an IBM PC-AT Model F keyboard. :-) US layout would be a challenge but not

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread dwight via cctalk
I don't recall the concentration I used. I would recommend not using it for most conditions. I recall that I'd tried various other cleaning methods. I recall using water, water/detergent and may have even tried windex(?). None of the other things would touch it. The stuff on the surfaces was the

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread dwight via cctalk
I forgot one Butter. Also needs detergent cleaning afterwards. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of dwight via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 10:29:41 AM To: Al Kossow; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: 8 inch floppies, decay

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, dwight via cctalk wrote: Next is the smooth orange oil hand cleaner. ( not the stuff with pumas ). Really cleans things great and good for killing ants. Again, rinse maybe it might need a little detergent and then rinse. Don't use pumice to clean off the pumas. (they won'

Re: Anyone have a HALstation 300 install CD?

2018-07-11 Thread dwight via cctalk
Hi Al I have a line on a CD and may be find some documents to go with it. A friend has this and I hope to get a copy next week on Tues or Wed. Are you going to be at the Museum next week. I don't know where you office is on the East bay side. It might be closer. Dwight __

An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-11 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
Anyone know where the Step/Direction version of the FDD interface originated. So far as near as I can tell the earliest FDDs (IBM 23FD Minnow and Memorex 650/651) used Step In/Step Out. The IBM 33FD Igar used direct control of the motor. The earliest Step/Direction FDD I can find is the Shugart 8

Re: An historical nit about FDDs

2018-07-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 07/11/2018 11:12 AM, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: > Anyone know where the Step/Direction version of the FDD interface > originated. > > So far as near as I can tell the earliest FDDs (IBM 23FD Minnow and Memorex > 650/651) used Step In/Step Out. The IBM 33FD Igar used direct control of the > m

Re: A New Batch of Items in Sellam's Virtual Warehouse

2018-07-11 Thread shadoooo via cctalk
Hello, I sent you an email about the Votrax system. Thanks Andrea

Osborne 1 keyboard

2018-07-11 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
https://www.elecshopper.com/osborne-1-keyboard.html I have no way to test it. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/anti

TRS-80 Model 2000 Keyboard

2018-07-11 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
https://www.elecshopper.com/tandy-trs-80-model-2000-keyboard.html Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 830-370-3239 cell sa...@elecplus.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: Anyone have a HALstation 300 install CD?

2018-07-11 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
that would be great. I've not been able to get Jason's images to boot I also got a Sparcstation 5 running Solaris 2.6 and have had no luck getting it to recognize the HAL boot drives. Their is something odd about the drives, I've only been able to image one of the boot drives on a Linux machine

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-11 Thread dwight via cctalk
I'm the victim of the spell checker. Thanks for the fix. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Fred Cisin via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:05:43 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying On Wed, 11 J

Trying to make it easier to find keyboards

2018-07-11 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
https://www.elecshopper.com/model-m-keyboards/?___store=rwd I know there are no products under some categories, and no stock under others, but does this help to make it easier to find things? Click on the links to see the products. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrvil