Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
not much adjustments... may be easier if you just bypass my messages? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > wrong not everybody sees it this is the only list serve problems... I > suppose modern email

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
Al, If you're looking for a service manual for that HP2624 you might have a look at the manual for the MAI 4309; it's the same board with a few minor differences (memory) and different firmware. And of course it's on bitsavers ;-) mike

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
if I type an extra space I am sure every one sees it. but the chars not everyone sees them. what I do figure us the older email programs are not accepting of all charter sets? ( dunno if I am using the right term) Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 Fred Cisin wrote:

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
some blank spaces whereas us 2 instead of one is some times bad mr. hand Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 Fred Cisin wrote: Ed, It is YOUR mail program that is doing the extraneous insertions, and then not showing them to you when you view your own messages. ALL of us

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: wrong not everybody sees it this is the only list serve problems... I suppose modern email programs either do not see or know what to do with the characters... please consider using the delete key and not reading things frI'm me if it

Re: Teletype cheap

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Steve... many are,missing the Chad box... I bet there,are,enough people here mkissing some to Warrent making some. It might be a good group project. ed# www.smecc.org Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 steve shumaker via cctalk wrote: It lives!! Retrieved the EPay

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
re blank spaces,yep they get in there... ed# On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 21/11/2018 22:46, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > On 11/21/18 5:19 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> Ed, >> It is YOUR mail program that is doing the extraneous insertions,

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
wrong not everybody sees it this is the only list serve problems... I suppose modern email programs either do not see or know what to do with the characters... please consider using the delete key and not reading things frI'm me if it bothers,you thanks ed# Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
I spent six weeks at MSU Bozeman this past Summer integrating a performance-boosting, wide-area network-distributed database enhancement to an augmented reality project sponsored through the Western Transportation Institute there. I thoroughly enjoyed visiting the museum, which is a couple of

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:24:55PM -0600, John Foust via cctalk wrote: > At 02:03 PM 11/21/2018, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > >I sold him my extra classic 8 with the plexi covers on it... sn 200 > > series we kept sn #18 > > Side question: What process is turning

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
But the HDSP 2010 have only 12 pins. I think his are 28 pins, hence the HDSP 2450 suggestion, the closest I could find working off my 1986 catalog. Marc From: cctalk on behalf of "cctalk@classiccmp.org" Reply-To: Al Kossow , "cctalk@classiccmp.org" Date: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 at

Re: Teletype cheap

2018-11-21 Thread steve shumaker via cctalk
It lives!! Retrieved the EPay ASR33 over the weekend.   Unit described as "As is - for parts" turned out to be almost completely intact school surplus unit stored inside somewhere in Orange county since removed from service in mid 80s (professionally maintained w service tag dated 1984). 

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 21/11/2018 22:46, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 11/21/18 5:19 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Ed, It is YOUR mail program that is doing the extraneous insertions, and then not showing them to you when you view your own messages. Seriously, YOUR mail program is inserting extraneous

Re: Manuals looking for a home

2018-11-21 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 21/11/2018 20:08, Mike Norris via cctalk wrote: Hi Guys, I have the following manuals looking for a home, free except for postage/delivery. (Based in UK). 1. 11/44 Field Maintenance Print Set (includes memory inverter, MS11-M, TU58) 2. RWP04 moving head disk subsystem maintenance

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread js--- via cctalk
On 11/21/2018 5:46 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 11/21/18 5:19 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Ed, It is YOUR mail program that is doing the extraneous insertions, and then not showing them to you when you view your own messages. ALL of us see either extraneous characters, or

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 11/21/18 5:19 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Ed, > It is YOUR mail program that is doing the extraneous insertions, and > then not showing them to you when you view your own messages. > > ALL of us see either extraneous characters, or extraneous spaces in > everything that you send! > I

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: who  knows?  Maybe George Keremedjiev would have known. He was from the era of [several] standardized character sets, BEFORE the denial responses of "Well, MY mail program can display the stuff thet MY mail program creates, so everybody else's

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Those chars (excess crap in Ed's posts) c o me from microsoft i.e. I bet you are using Outlook I don't get such extraaneous crap from anybody else using Outhouse.

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Ed, It is YOUR mail program that is doing the extraneous insertions, and then not showing them to you when you view your own messages. ALL of us see either extraneous characters, or extraneous spaces in everything that you send! I use PINE in a shell account, and they show up as a whole bunch

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Those chars c o me from microsoft i.e. I bet you are using Outlook On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, 4:17 PM ED SHARPE via cctalk who knows? what mail program are you using that does that? > > > In a message dated 11/21/2018 1:25:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, > cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > > >

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
sounds like your nail program fault or setting. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, November 21, 2018 John Foust via cctalk wrote: At 03:17 PM 11/21/2018, ED SHARPE wrote: >who knows? what mail program are you using that does that? A classic computer one, of course. Eudora 7.1 circa 2006.

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 03:17 PM 11/21/2018, ED SHARPE wrote: >who knows? what mail program are you using that does that? A classic computer one, of course. Eudora 7.1 circa 2006. - John

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
who  knows?   what  mail program  are  you using that   does that? In a message dated 11/21/2018 1:25:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   At 02:03 PM 11/21/2018, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: >I sold him my extra classic 8 with the plexi covers on it... sn 200Â

Re: Manuals looking for a home

2018-11-21 Thread Mark Darvill via cctalk
Hi Mike, Could I take 3, 5 & 6. I am also in the uk. If that is ok, I will send you my details and payment for postage. Thanks, Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Nov 2018, at 20:08, Mike Norris via cctalk > wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > I have the following manuals looking for a home, free

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 02:03 PM 11/21/2018, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: >I sold him my extra classic 8 with the plexi covers on it... sn 200 >series we kept sn #18 Side question: What process is turning non-blanking spaces into ISO-8859-1 circumflex-A for you? I see 'Â' all throughout your

Manuals looking for a home

2018-11-21 Thread Mike Norris via cctalk
Hi Guys, I have the following manuals looking for a home, free except for postage/delivery. (Based in UK). 1. 11/44 Field Maintenance Print Set (includes memory inverter, MS11-M, TU58) 2. RWP04 moving head disk subsystem maintenance manual 3. RM05 Disk Subsystem User guide + RM05 Fault

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
I  sold  him my  extra classic 8  with the plexi covers on it... sn 200  series  we  kept  sn #18 I was  at the  computer biz in those  days  so this was over  26 years  ago.  Enjoyed  our  visit.   Sad  to see  him  go...   scarry  to hear  of this  being  close to that age  also.   Good

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread devin davison via cctalk
You and me are thinking alike. Just making sure im not taking away a hard to find part from someone else that desperately needs it. --Devin D. On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 1:36 PM Anders Nelson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Those would make the coolest wristwatch ever. I can help wth

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 7:23 AM Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > > BTW, for some reason I get some of your (Al's) posts _after_ I've received > replies to them, sometimes almost a day later; very confusing. It seems to be > related to the fact that some of your posts are addressed to >

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Lyle Bickley via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 10:22:16 -0500 Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 7:44 PM > Subject: Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals > > > > > > > > On 11/20/18 12:33 PM, Mike Stein via cctalk

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Those would make the coolest wristwatch ever. I can help wth PCB design and microcontroller firmware if that's your intended use; I made a watch with an old LED bubble display a while ago ( https://www.andersknelson.com/blog/?p=11) though I'm aware these are matrix displays and not seven-segment.

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Looks like the HDSP-2490: http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/articleview.php?item=9 Datasheet: https://mkmakerspace.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/HDSP-2490.pdf These are shift register displays, you clock in column data on a common clock. Similar to the HDSP-2010 and relatives. Quite

Vintage Datacomm Porn (SFW)

2018-11-21 Thread Jason T via cctalk
I have completed a scan of the December 1972 issue of "Communications News" and posted it to archive.org: https://archive.org/details/CommunicationsNewsV9N12/page/n0 Lots of great info and (mostly tiny) pics in here for fans of terminals, modems, early online networks and the growing data

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
Try to look up HDSP-2450. These are 5x7 alphanumeric displays with shift register drivers included. Yours might be an earlier version of that, or just a commercial temp version  of that (the HDSPs are extended temp -55/85C). Maybe the internal part used in the HP9825 or HP 9830 displays, then

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/21/2018 09:52 AM, devin davison via cctalk wrote: Hello. Encountered a couple odd parts in the pile today, not sure if they are anything special. Hp branded dip packages with gold leads. They appear to be leds in 4 grid patterns on the face. Im curious what they are out of, most likely an

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
probably hdsp-2010 1988 opto catalog pg 609 in the scan On 11/21/18 8:30 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 11/21/18 7:52 AM, devin davison via cctalk wrote: >> Hello. Encountered a couple odd parts in the pile today, not sure if they >> are anything special. > > they're pretty cool quad

Re: Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/21/18 7:52 AM, devin davison via cctalk wrote: > Hello. Encountered a couple odd parts in the pile today, not sure if they > are anything special. they're pretty cool quad 5x7 alphanumeric LEDs check http://bitsavers.org/components/hp

Odd Hp leds in dip package

2018-11-21 Thread devin davison via cctalk
Hello. Encountered a couple odd parts in the pile today, not sure if they are anything special. Hp branded dip packages with gold leads. They appear to be leds in 4 grid patterns on the face. Im curious what they are out of, most likely an old hp computer or calculator. Part number on the back is

Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals

2018-11-21 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Al Kossow via cctalk" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 7:44 PM Subject: Re: Battery warning in Falco terminals > > > On 11/20/18 12:33 PM, Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > >> BTW, what's the story on Richard in SLC; is there a new address for the >>

Re: cctalk/cctech

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 9:34 AM Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 06:18:25AM -0800, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 11/21/18 6:06 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > >I thought cctalk was supposed to be a complete superset of cctech, but >

Re: cctalk/cctech

2018-11-21 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 06:18:25AM -0800, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 11/21/18 6:06 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > >I thought cctalk was supposed to be a complete superset of cctech, but > >looking at the cctech archives, I see a lot of posts that didn't make it > >to cctalk. Does one

Re: cctalk/cctech

2018-11-21 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/21/18 6:06 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: I thought cctalk was supposed to be a complete superset of cctech, but looking at the cctech archives, I see a lot of posts that didn't make it to cctalk. Does one need to do both to see everything? Noel Yes, unfortunately. Most of

cctalk/cctech

2018-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
I thought cctalk was supposed to be a complete superset of cctech, but looking at the cctech archives, I see a lot of posts that didn't make it to cctalk. Does one need to do both to see everything? Noel

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-21 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
If I might say so, Keremedjiev was one of the people in the 90's who helped define "vintage computer" and who selected which computers were part of its original pantheon (Altair, IMSAI,etc.). I recall his museum web site was one of the first web sites about vintage computing along with Ira

Re: [EXTERNAL] VCF PNW 2019: Exhibitors needed!

2018-11-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 02:57, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: > > Emulators do great things, but they can't replace the visceral > experience of touching real old working hardware. Take the example > the sound of a modem making a 1200 bps connection, or the grinding > noise of a floppy drive

Re: Removing PVA from a CRT

2018-11-21 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018, Michael Thompson wrote: the glass. We trimmed the Lexan to size, reassembled the Lexan and glass to the front of the CRT, and glued the steel mounting band in place. It looks great, and is probably a lot safer than just leaving the PVA out. You removed the steel band???