[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, geneb via cctalk wrote: Yep. At least nowdays you can publically embarass companies that pull crap like that - assuming they care of course. :) I don't know the details; didn't Apple push through an "update" that would

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, geneb via cctalk wrote: Yep. At least nowdays you can publically embarass companies that pull crap like that - assuming they care of course. :) I don't know the details; didn't Apple push through an "update" that would "brick" phones with third party replacement screens?

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: In the EARLY years of the TRS80, Tandy actually believed that they could void the warranty if you opened the case. Eventually, their lawyers explained to them about Magnuson-Moss. Sometimes, it is GREAT to have your adversary lawyer-up,

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
It's a lot less effort to tell them the sticker was illegal to begin with. ;) . . . and have him have to escalate it to somebody authorized to make exceptions, or argue with tandy lawyers? On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, geneb via cctalk wrote: Nope. You point out that the state attorney(sp) general

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: 1) A piece of tamper-proof tape, labeled "breaking this seal voids warranty". If you do major modifications to something, such as a TRS80 model 1, always put a fresh tamper-evident seal on it afterwards, to re-enable the warranty. On Mon, 14

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
1) A piece of tamper-proof tape, labeled "breaking this seal voids warranty". If you do major modifications to something, such as a TRS80 model 1, always put a fresh tamper-evident seal on it afterwards, to re-enable the warranty. On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, geneb wrote: It's a lot less effort to

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: 1) A piece of tamper-proof tape, labeled "breaking this seal voids warranty". If you do major modifications to something, such as a TRS80 model 1, always put a fresh tamper-evident seal on it afterwards, to re-enable the warranty. It's a lot

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Here's a photo of a "combo" Wright Line rack. Note how the upper row of tapes are hung from a rail. https://photovault.com/data/resize/800x550/TEC/TECV01P01_19.jpg?a21a7d6f2c85140ab281fe847fc313ac --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
1) A piece of tamper-proof tape, labeled "breaking this seal voids warranty". If you do major modifications to something, such as a TRS80 model 1, always put a fresh tamper-evident seal on it afterwards, to re-enable the warranty. 2) Also called a "tape hanger", a piece of plastic that wraps

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/14/22 10:56, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: > Point of order for the dummies: what is a tape seal? > > Sellam The type under discussion is this: https://forum.vcfed.org/index.php?attachments/1667864510113-png.1248420/ The "band" that goes around a reel of 1/2" tape and allows it to be

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Sellam Abraham via cctalk > wrote: > > Point of order for the dummies: what is a tape seal? A wrapper around the rim of a 1/2 inch tape reel, to protect it and allow for storage. It's more compact than the alternative, a canister to hold the tape, though

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Point of order for the dummies: what is a tape seal? Sellam On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 8:36 AM Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 11/14/22 04:25, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > > I've been reporting on 9-track tape seal failures over at least the past > 2 decades here. >

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/14/22 04:25, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > I've been reporting on 9-track tape seal failures over at least the past 2 > decades here. > > I first noticed the problem in the very early 2000's, and thought it was just > random onesy-twosy failures, possibly contributed to by ozone in LA

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/14/22 09:19, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 11/14/22 06:25, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: I've been reporting on 9-track tape seal failures over at least the past 2 decades here. Very very few of the older (I think of them as IBM or 70's/80's style) "hard plastic" tape seals failed.

[cctalk] Re: 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 11/14/22 06:25, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: I've been reporting on 9-track tape seal failures over at least the past 2 decades here. I first noticed the problem in the very early 2000's, and thought it was just random onesy-twosy failures, possibly contributed to by ozone in LA region,

[cctalk] 100% Tape Seal (soft kind) failure

2022-11-14 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
I've been reporting on 9-track tape seal failures over at least the past 2 decades here. I first noticed the problem in the very early 2000's, and thought it was just random onesy-twosy failures, possibly contributed to by ozone in LA region, but over the past 20 years the failures have

[cctalk] Re: Any working Datapoint 2200 systems?

2022-11-14 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Mon, 14 Nov 2022, jos wrote: if anyone wants to go ahead I will gladly share my Kicad project ! Mind you, the diddlescan is a problem as that requires a CRT yoke with 3 windings Reminds me of the Cogar C4/ICL 1500 system that has a rotated deflection also with diddlescan ;-) But I

[cctalk] Re: Any working Datapoint 2200 systems?

2022-11-14 Thread jos via cctalk
On 13.11.22 21:14, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote: Thanks Jos, I hadn't realized how similar the DP1100 is. This brochure has a great image of the font right on the front page (80x12 text): http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/datapoint/1100/Dataform_1100_Brochure_1974.pdf Maybe something similar can