[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
> Would it be possible to build a small computer, 8088/8086 > just for this? > I don't see why not, but given the choice I'd pick just about any other processor family. Probably a 68000. -tony

[cctalk] Re: Recovering floppies attacked by mould

2023-05-25 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
On 2023/05/25 5:11 p.m., Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: Tom, You may save yourself some time with this nifty contraption ==> https://www.ebay.com/itm/303620862566 It's a floppy disk cleaning apparatus. You place the floppy disk into the frame, apply your cleaning solution and cloth to the in

[cctalk] Re: Recovering floppies attacked by mould

2023-05-25 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 25 May 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: Tom, You may save yourself some time with this nifty contraption ==> https://www.ebay.com/itm/303620862566 It's a floppy disk cleaning apparatus. You place the floppy disk into the frame, apply your cleaning solution and cloth to the index op

[cctalk] Re: Recovering floppies attacked by mould

2023-05-25 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
Tom, You may save yourself some time with this nifty contraption ==> https://www.ebay.com/itm/303620862566 It's a floppy disk cleaning apparatus. You place the floppy disk into the frame, apply your cleaning solution and cloth to the index opening, and then manually spin the disk. Sellam On Th

[cctalk] Re: MCAS (was: Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.)

2023-05-25 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 25, 2023, at 6:29 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk > wrote: > > > On 5/25/23 12:30, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> ...and we still get gems like the Boeing 737MAX... > > I get your point, but it's a bad example. MCAS worked precisely as > specified, and while one could have a d

[cctalk] Re: Recovering floppies attacked by mould

2023-05-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/25/23 15:35, Tom Stepleton via cctalk wrote: > Does this seem like a sensible plan? If so, what would be the best way to > clean as much mould off the cookie as I can? Tools that come to mind are > distilled water (tap water here is full of chalk), dish soap, > cyclomethicone, and of course m

[cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

2023-05-25 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > This evening I went to check Vstart for any oscillation. However, all of a > sudden, the current draw is down to 85mA and PWM has started working. I am > at a loss to explain it. I wondered if there might be a dry joint, but I > have tried a few light taps and shakes and it continues to work. P

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 25/05/2023 19:47, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Not only that, but all correctly implemented GigE devices will fall back not just to 100 but also to 10 Mb/s. That's part of standards conformance, and from what I can tell even low cost devices like D-Link or Netgear do this. Yes, including

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Christian Kennedy via cctalk
On 5/25/23 13:38, geneb via cctalk wrote: That wasn't a software problem, that was a criminally cheap management problem - they deleted the comparator for the AoA indexer to save money. Yes, but probably not Boeing's.  AoA disagree was an available option that most /airlines/ explicitly elect

[cctalk] Recovering floppies attacked by mould

2023-05-25 Thread Tom Stepleton via cctalk
Greetings, Amidst all the floppy archiving discussion, here's a slightly different question: The weather is warmer now where I live, so it's starting to be a good time to do messy work outdoors. I have some mouldy floppy diskettes that I'd like to try to read (mostly 5.25"), plus a good flux read

[cctalk] MCAS (was: Re: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.)

2023-05-25 Thread Christian Kennedy via cctalk
On 5/25/23 12:30, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: ...and we still get gems like the Boeing 737MAX... I get your point, but it's a bad example.  MCAS worked precisely as specified, and while one could have a discussion regarding if those specifications were wrong, the logic was that a MCAS fai

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
On 5/25/23 13:21, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On May 25, 2023, at 3:30 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 5/25/23 10:06, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: The way SPARK works is that you have code and then can also provide proofs for the code. Proofs are you might expect are *hard* to

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 25, 2023, at 4:38 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote: > > On Thu, 25 May 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> On 5/25/23 10:06, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: >>> >> >>> The way SPARK works is that you have code and then can also provide >>> proofs for the code. Proofs are you might

[cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault

2023-05-25 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Coghlan via cctalk > Sent: 20 May 2023 09:20 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Cc: Peter Coghlan > Subject: [cctalk] Re: Rainbow H7842 PSU Fault > > > > Ok, it looks like there is not a severe leak from the -12V line to

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Thu, 25 May 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 5/25/23 10:06, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: The way SPARK works is that you have code and then can also provide proofs for the code.  Proofs are you might expect are *hard* to write and in many cases are *huge* relative to the actual

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 25, 2023, at 3:30 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 5/25/23 10:06, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: >> > >> The way SPARK works is that you have code and then can also provide >> proofs for the code. Proofs are you might expect are *hard* to write >> and in many cases are

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Just wondering what's marking Guy's posts with ***SPAM***. It's beginning to look like a Monty Python sketch. --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/25/23 12:13, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: > Eclipse is a a java dog and keeping it up to date between versions is a pain, > but in my experience the benefits Mike mentioned are well worth it. For an editor, I use Joe--available on platforms from MSDOS to Linux X64 as well as Windows. It's

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/25/23 10:06, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > > The way SPARK works is that you have code and then can also provide > proofs for the code.  Proofs are you might expect are *hard* to write > and in many cases are *huge* relative to the actual code (at least if > you want a platinum level pro

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 05/25/2023 11:13 AM CDT Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > > Chuck, > > I agree with you that well written and commented C is the way to go. > > The advantage to an IDE comes with debugging and easy access symbols and > variables. > Some IDEs can be convinced to use standard makefiles.

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
On 5/25/23 10:00, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 5/25/23 08:58, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: ADA and SPARK (a stripped down version of ADA) are used heavily in embedded that has to be "safety certified".  SPARK also allows the code to be "proven" (as in you can write formal proofs to ensu

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
On 2023-05-25 5:52 a.m., Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > ... > It is not unheard-of for classic PCs -- even ISAbus ones -- to have > 10Mbps ethernet. Most, if not all, 100Mbps ethernet ports will fall > back to that. Not only that, but all correctly implemented GigE devices will fall back not

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2023-05-25 5:52 a.m., Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 1:54 AM Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: I realize he's a bit eccentric, (even more so than many of us ;-) ), but I I am not 'a bit eccentric'. There is absolutely nothing mild about my eccentricities! But it sounds

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/25/23 08:58, Guy Sotomayor via cctalk wrote: > > ADA and SPARK (a stripped down version of ADA) are used heavily in > embedded that has to be "safety certified".  SPARK also allows the code > to be "proven" (as in you can write formal proofs to ensure that the > code does what you say it does

[cctalk] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Guy Sotomayor via cctalk
On 5/25/23 07:55, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 5/25/23 04:52, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: For the programming language, I stick with C, not C++, not Python and plain old makefiles--that's what the support libraries are written in. I don't use an IDE, lest I become reliant on one--a text e

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Chuck, I agree with you that well written and commented C is the way to go. The advantage to an IDE comes with debugging and easy access symbols and variables. I worked for Software Development Systems working on their Freeform (text based) and Single Step (windows based) debuggers.  Which g

[cctalk] HP 1000 A400, A600, A700, A900, A990 Servers, parts, & accessories

2023-05-25 Thread Jesse Dougherty via cctalk
Hi all, we are getting overstocked on the 1000 series stuff and wanted to see if anyone needed anything. We have most everything you could have in the 1000 A-series hardware. If anyone needs any loaded up A990 boxes we have a bunch of them configured below for $1,400.00 A990 Server 14-slot Mic

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 5/25/23 04:52, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > USB interfacing is hard, but SD cards are a lot simpler. So use a card > reader thing to transfer the files to an SD card and design an > interface for that to ISA bus. That's my approach with my own setups. 32GB SD cards are very inexpensive and

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 1:54 AM Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > > I realize he's a bit eccentric, (even more so than many of us ;-) ), but I I am not 'a bit eccentric'. There is absolutely nothing mild about my eccentricities! > But it sounds like he'll explore one of the flux-transition gizmos;

[cctalk] Rexon 30 aka CMC 7030 information needed

2023-05-25 Thread Harten via cctalk
Recently i digged out a system called Rexon 30, which was sold in germany/europe as a CMC 7030. The OS called RECAP BB was stored on a combined hard/removeable disk drive. There is no floppy or tapedrive at all. BB stands for a version of Business-Basic. The removeable pack got lost but there is

[cctalk] Re: Getting floppy images to/from real floppy disks.

2023-05-25 Thread Harten via cctalk
In message Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > I realize he's a bit eccentric, (even more so than many of us ;-) ), but I > think we're being a little hard on Tony, especially considering the many > contributions he's made to our hobby over the years with reverse-engineered > schematics and