Hi,
I’m looking for some help diagnosing a old Grid server problem,I am a hobbyist
learning my way around old computer systems .
The system consists of three boards labeled
Diagnostic server
File server
Com server
Each board contains a 80186 , ram and rom and are all connected via a backplane.
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Working to restore a series 30 , looking for any spare boards ,cpu ,bic boards
from a series 30/33Just putting it out there ,long shot i knowCheers,Grant Sent
from my Galaxy
Looking for a interphase Maverick Smd controller for the isa bus. I don't know
if any other companies made one.Regards,Sent from my Galaxy
I am looking for the elusive grid server software disks, I would really like
to put this thing online
I know of the disks that were on the yahoo grid group, but they were missing
the all important utilities disk 2 , but worse than that they are for a tempest
server, which unfortunately won't r
67-69 ?
any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Grant
Thanks JayI'm am not trying to use DS/1000 just trying to get the 7974 loader
going.Grant
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all, i am looking for a loader rom set for my 21mx and does not seem tobe
around at the usual places, I am hoping to f
y would call might have
issues.
Note: I am anti-systemd. But I don't see how Master Control Program,
ala Tron, can prevent (m)getty from working on a modern distribution.
Granted, the OP might need to create some custom systemd config files.
But I view that as more of a speed bump than an actual blocker.
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Learning and overcoming problems. It really
makes you appreciate where we are now, compared to where we have been.
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account server that can accept the (dial up)
connection on a serial port, and then gateway to the internet via
standard text mode utilities.
I'd be very interested in text mode utilities that support (basic)
graphics via Sixel (or ReGIS).
Any help is appreciated
I don't know if it's help or not, but it's at least feedback.
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account server that can accept the (dial up)
connection on a serial port, and then gateway to the internet via
standard text mode utilities.
I'd be very interested in text mode utilities that support (basic)
graphics via Sixel (or ReGIS).
Any help is appreciated
I don't know if it's help or not, but it's at least feedback.
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ld stay in service even
without power.
I've also seen a number of VoIP offerings that include a battery backup
both in the ATA and various equipment along the aggregation path for
this very reason.
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it would be
possible to get slower (14.4,or lower) modems to work fairly reliably.
Now I'm wanting to re-acquire some POTS devices to play. :-/ My wife
isn't going to like that.
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r
local calls.)
I'm not surprised.
I think a number of analog phone lines are now really something digital
to the neighborhood / house (possibly ~> likely VoIP) and splitting it
out the B1 locally. So even those might not support modem / fax as well
as an old school B1.
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I need to figure out how to stop my brain.
For MAXIMUM realism, then the "answer" end should also get occasional
random "wrong number", incoming fax, "I'm calling to offer you a great
deal on" (I don't listen past that).
LOL
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ion)
port on one PBX and connect it to the FXS (CO) port on the other PBX,
and vice versa.
My brain stalls ever time I say FXS vs FXO and I have to verify what I'm
saying. - Here's an old but IMHO good reference from Digium.
Link - What are FXS and FXO?
- https://my.digium.com/en/
there should still be some cheap KSUs around on the surplus
market.
I took a gander this evening, and yes, I saw multiple 'Partner' systems
that had multiple FXS ports.
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would be a concern. - I want to do some more
digging to see if NetWare supports any form of Proxy ARP. Hopefully
Proxy ARP support would allow us to form proto bridges to extend the
classful /A or /B or /C networks that the desired nodes are in.
I'm happy to ponder some more scheming and networking black magic if
people are interested.
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r this n00b what you mean by ARPANET interface? Are
you referring to host specific hardware that was used to communicate
with an IMP?
Do the necessary emulators support the ARPANET interface?
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fy my statement to be "I wonder if NetWare 4.x / 5.x can route IP
between (what Novell called) 802.2 and Ethernet II. ;-)
My desire is to find a way to interconnect between the existing
protocols & frame types without needing to modify things on hosts.
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because I've not done this
in a long time. But I have made this scenario work with the Proxy ARP
support that currently exists in the Linux kernel.
So … I wonder what additional functionality your anyipd would provide.
- I'm actually quite curious to learn.
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ow that I can easily extend layer 2
across a LARGE majority of networks using Linux bridges. - I think
that I can even bridge any type of network that uses 802.2 Link Level
Control headers. I.e. Token Ring (802.5) and Ethernet (802.3) and
Wireless (802.11) and various tunnels.
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o-arp/anyipd should not be used.
Like all tools, you have to be careful where you do use it. - I'd
default with it off (or not installed) and turn it on as necessary.
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s NWE) for DOS clients - on the same interface.
My intention was to allow IP running on top of something other than
Ethernet II to be able to communicate with IP on top of Ethernet II.
Preferably via a router and not some sort of bump in the wire frame
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chive. But
I've not been able to do so. Thus I'm asking a wider audience to see if
anyone might be able to give me a pointer.
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On 01/22/2018 11:24 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
Before that, if you were lucky enough to be at Stanford, MIT, or CMU,
you could use the Dover and Altos that were part of Xerox's University
Grant Program. Copies of well-known papers from the early 80s are very
distinctive because they
ase5 has some decent pictures:
Link - 10Base5
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE5
Google's image search for thicknet has a number of things too.
I never have managed to get my hands on any Thicknet 10Base5 but I'd
like to get just enough to connect two machines.
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about 2mm - pretty heavy!
Interesting.
According to the following page, it was not RG-8 cable because of the
variances there in. As such it was purpose built.
Link - Building a 10BASE5 “Thick Ethernet” network
- http://tech.mattmillman.com/projects/10base5/
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It's my understanding that the marks (black bands or other markings on
the sheath) were exactly one wavelength apart. Which from what I
remember ~> understand from my ham radio days is quite important.
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table points are marked
on the cable with black bands."
It cites "IEEE Standard 802.3<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.3>-1985.
IEEE<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE>. p. 121."
Thank you for correcting ~> educating me.
#learnSomethingEveryDay
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ably a better alternative that came along after,
with better shielding and marking bands. But it sounds like RG-8/U is
definitive acceptable to me. I'll assume that David meant quality RG-8.
What I don't know is if RG-8/U was used for 3 Mbps and then something
else was used for 10 Mbps.
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d to as being a subset, possibly more stringent, of Radio Grade 8
coax cable.
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e.)
Day 3: Hay, I thought you said that we needed to mine something. I it
looks like clear haul. ...and someone left a pull string that we can
use. Suckers. ;-)
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slightly more usable.
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& effort are
you thinking about?
Depending on all of the above, I'd be curious to have one or two
segments long enough to have two connections / taps each.
Also, how well can the hose pipe be coiled for shipping?
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On 01/30/2018 04:52 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
I'm sure that someone will be interested in it--there's usually a good
supply of masochists around.
Hay! I resemble that!!!
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Someone shared the following eBay auction in the
comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware newsgroup and I figured that someone
subscribed to cctalk might be interested:
Link - IBM 9331-011 8" External Floppy Drive - eBay 183038271095
- https://www.ebay.com/itm/183038271095
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ly is it that a PC OS from the last ~30
years will understand how to read what's on the disk?
Or, I'm guessing it's likely that archival programs don't need to
understand how to read the disk format for raw disk imaging.
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aight forward.
He did pass along the following pro tip: "…that was a pci based
system...so he should follow the instructions section for that in the kB
link I sent…"
P.S. Please don't reply to / hijack an existing thread for a new topic.
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outside of BNC connectors (et al) was typically bonded to
the card edge connector, which is (ideally) bonded to the system
chassis, which should be grounded either directly or indirectly.
So … I'm confused.
Will someone please enlighten me? Please and thank you.
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hould only have T connectors at the cards and all
of the coax in between would be shielded. Thus the entire length would
be isolated, safe for the ground point, along the entire run, if
properly installed and nothing grounded the terminators unexpectedly.
Thank you for the clarification Paul. :-)
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them directly from the command line.
Note: smit will try to launch a menu in GUI and fall back to text mode.
smitty will always launch the text mode. (You mentioned a GUI.)
Again, many thanks for your help!
You're welcome.
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th a grain of salt. But do be mindful that DEC liked
to mix and match things.
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.
It's the same old problem, but this time it's how to sub-divide a /26
into a /27 and two /28s without the router for the /26 being re-configured.
So Proxy ARP FAR from dead.
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On 01/16/2018 12:52 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
You could do similar via null modem cable between a terminal and
something like a Raspberry Pi.
Watching Curious Marc's HP 264x Terminals - Part 3: Living the ASCII
Life video made me think of this thread.
Check out Marc's
ou for sharing.
I'm filing that away for future use.
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tware archives.
In fact, you can probably search an archive of the group and find some
answers to your question.
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MSDOS.SYS, IO.SYS, and COMMAND.COM from Windows 9x.
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On 02/07/2018 09:53 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
According to the following link from IBM, the process we are both
thinking of is valid, just using different files.
http://ps-2.kev009.com/pcpartnerinfo/ctstips/c546.htm
That link mentions ExittoDOS.pif, and searches for it turn up
Follow up question. - What protocol did you use? TCP/IP? I assume
that Windows 7 doesn't have NetBEUI. (I've not looked and I know
Microsoft was trying to deprecate it.)
Thank you for sharing Marc. :-)
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next to free binary feeds for text-only volumes.
- Eternal-September (purportedly has issues from time to time)
- AIOE
Those are the two that come to mind at the moment.
If that doesn't work for you let me know and I'll set you up with an
account on my personal news serve
t
for my current situation.
I'm replying in an attempt to provide a counter point for a discussion
of reality. So please don't take this as an attack on you, or your
laudable appeal.
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7;t link from your site to CHWiki, or
anywhere else for that matter, for additional content.
I guess that I can be selfish and say that my site is first and foremost
for me. If others happen to be able to learn from or benefit from it,
GREAT! But I'm going to do things for me, where I want (on my site)
first and foremost.
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On 02/11/2018 12:14 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
As you pointed out and commented about the links you provided, they are
online somewhere other than the CHWiki.
I also see a LOT of content that could go on CHWiki, et al, that pass
through mailing lists and newsgroups. Both of which are
may not be the case I suppose).
That is entirely possible. Of course the opposite is also possible too.
That's one of the reasons I like to have copies of things on my site,
with proper attribution to where it's copied from.
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for your time and effort. I'm sure the community appreciates
what you've done.
But clearly you aren't interested in moving off your own personal site -
which is fine.
It's more that I'm going to publish on my own site /first/. What
happens /after/ that, I mostly don't care.
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moves. I also provide a contact link at the bottom of
my pages that anyone can use to comment on said page.
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ctive feedback.
Willful ignorance … well that's a different story. And it might not be
ignorance when it becomes willful.
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ad appear like I
want in Thunderbird.
And yes, I know that I sent this message as a reply to another message.
I think your reply is in direct response to the message that it is
replying to. So … I think you're on the lighter side of gray here. :-)
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On 02/21/2018 11:06 AM, Adrian Stoness wrote:
mua?
Mail User Agent
I.e. email client.
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the name ʻOmuamua.
(Including the ʻOkina.)
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rt.
I see the logic in what you're saying.
If it works for you…. Far be it for me….
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On 02/25/2018 05:51 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
What is vintage computing?
I think the Department of Motor Vehicle of my home state considers any
cars over 25 years old to be historic ~> vintage.
Does something like that count?
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n IBM Selectric II. Shes a
typewriter lover.
;-)
https://imgur.com/a/XzDXg
Is that ATM or FDDI interfaces? I can't tell from the picture.
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On 03/13/2018 02:52 PM, Fred via cctalk wrote:
I'm always hunting for more! (an iSeries, perhaps a Multiprise 3000,
etc ...
If power / cooling / noise wasn't an issue, I'd also be interested in an
Multiprise 3000.
But, I'm happily married and I would like to keep it t
a.org/wiki/Dial_box
It might be worth updating the Wikipedia article to reflect IBM's dial
box, including a picture.
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y to get around by periodically creating a new set backup set
that future days are hard linked against. (Play with the numbers to
match your preference.)
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on where we had a decent
RAID, but we couldn't replace either disk. This usually involved taking
an entire backup of the machine, replacing both disks, and restoring the
data.
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a gel coming in everything
here in the U.S.A. Decidedly NOT sugar. But sometimes mistakenly
considered to be sugar.
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ed like a PowerBook
SCSI connector) that would be hard to replace if (read: when) a problem
develops.
I would greatly appreciate any tips / tricks / things to avoid.
Thank you in advance.
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MV.
ACK I'm fond of Supermicro machines too.
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uipment too. But I moved ~1000
miles and a LOT of things didn't make the move. :-(
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big batches. I'm
guessing that's why.
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But they were good chips. Some unfortunate software accidents more or
> less killed them.
Ya.
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On 05/06/2018 12:18 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> Years ago I had a Compaq desktop that had PCI and EISA slots. I'm trying
> to re-acquire it from the friend that it went to.
Lo and behold the friend that has the old Compaq desktop agreed to sell
it to me. Presumably it
n such machines.
One thing that I really like is the fact that it's a combination of PCI
and EISA bus. Which means that I can mess with just about any add-on /
expansion card that I want to. — Save for MCA and VLB. Though I doubt
that I'll want to play with those cards.
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d. Though I'm asking about it
for a card later in that time frame.
I held on to a couple of Intel Xpress machines for the EISA bus. I doubt
I'd pay the premium over a solid PCI/ISA machine.
ACK
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40BX chipset Nice thing--the
expansion cards are on a slide-out sub-chassis. Heavy bugger, though.
I liked some of the old HP towers as well for ease of access.
;-)
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file_listings-ls.txt file I noticed the
following:
13266 200 -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 204800 Feb 26 1989
./unix_c/editors/teco.tar
Which jogged my a memory that someone was looking for a copy of TECO.
Now to find the message that I'm remembering.
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Does anyone know why UUCP "bag" files are called "bag"?
Thanks in advance.
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d
them to any peers.)
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an easily carry both news and mail, it works for
both. :-)
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On 05/12/2018 05:32 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
I am rebuilding a Microchannel server with a P/390 card.
Will you be chronicling this process anywhere? I'd like to observe from
a distance. Blog / Twitter / other?
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e server. Hopefully tomorrow I should
be able to load VM/CMS.
I'll be interested to see how that turns out.
I also am still having issues with the Video Card. Its IBM SVGA Adaptor/1
which I believe should do 1024 x 768 but its stuck in 800 x 600.
Hum.
I've found video drivers unde
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be interested in it.
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t and Ethernet.
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- DSL / ADSL / SDSL / HDSL
- T1 / E1
- ATM
- Frame Relay
- ARCnet
- PSTN / PBX / PABX
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n't mention FDDI. :-)
I'm sorry. It slipped my mind while trying to finish the email. Rest
assured that both FDDI and it's CDDI cousin are on my list of things to
mess with. :-D
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#x27;t realize until years into the 1G
era that 1G is backwards compatible TWO generations, not the usual one.
And the switch seems to be happy to speak 10 Mb half duplex, nice.
I'm running into issues with switches not supporting 10 / 100 Mbps
management interfaces for other equipment.
remember any off hand. Maybe something modular that
has optional add-in cards. But I can't think of any fixed configuration
switches with AUI / BNC.
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;m even pontificating a custom UUCP configuration that is specific to
my user. As in /not/ a system wide version.
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ssing with NCP on emulated VAXen in the past. I'm
sure I'll consider such in the future.
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e looking to move them. Send me an email.
I've recently acquired things to do T1 / DSX-1 between multiple machines
at home. I'd /like/ to do the TelCo side of that too, for at least one
loop. But it seems as if the equipment to do that is even more specialized.
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stuff, but will
have to dig up that info later. It's pretty low traffic as well.
I'd be curious to see the info at your convenience.
Thank you for the pointers Ethan.
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s I misread things.
My understanding is that Gigabit Ethernet (and beyond) only supports
full duplex. Maybe I'm mis-remembering or thinking about what is
actually produced vs theoretical / lab experiments.
Similarly, I know someone that has 100 Mbps Token Ring, a.k.a. High
Speed Token Ring (HSTR) equipment for their mainframe. And 1 Gigabit
Token Ring was designed in the lab but never actualized.
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ent protocol is used. I'm
including even something that has lowly stand alone serial interface for
console / dumb terminal (emulator) based configuration through some
interface. No remote management / protocol required.
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ece of networking history
to own. If you're into that sort of thing. ;-)
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an evolution to solve a problem of congestion
and ethernet length.
Sure.
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