[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-23 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
On 2023/04/23 3:16 p.m., Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 3:10 PM John Robertson via cctalk wrote: Oh, I am missing two key caps for the ADM31, anyone have spares? Not sure what is printed on them at this point, but any caps would be better than missing ones to start!

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-23 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 3:10 PM John Robertson via cctalk wrote: > > Oh, I am missing two key caps for the ADM31, anyone have spares? Not > sure what is printed on them at this point, but any caps would be better > than missing ones to start! Keyboard photo to see what key caps are missing:

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-23 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
On 2023/04/18 8:48 p.m., Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 2:37 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: ... or four $20 power transistors to protect a 10 cent fuse like on the DEC VR-14 display. In general the transistor(s) will fail short-circuit, thus taking out the fuse too.

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 11:04 PM John Robertson via cctalk wrote: > > I like to start with schematics before poking too much... So do I. > > I assume bad caps (will replace with low-ESR high temp), and possibly > blown transistor(s)... > > *And Gregory Beat sent me a link that covers the 1001

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 2:37 AM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > ... or four $20 power transistors to protect a 10 cent fuse like on the DEC > VR-14 display. In general the transistor(s) will fail short-circuit, thus taking out the fuse too. Some switch-mode power supplies use special

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/18/23 18:37, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > ... or four $20 power transistors to protect a 10 cent fuse like on the DEC > VR-14 display. A friend who worked as a DEC CE decades ago, said that "transistor-protected fuses" was a standing joke among that community. --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
... or four $20 power transistors to protect a 10 cent fuse like on the DEC VR-14 display. Tom On Wed, 19 Apr 2023, 6:16 am Fred Cisin via cctalk, wrote: > On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: > > The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. > > The replacement will

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 3:16 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: > > The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. > > The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the > > root cause. > > Isn't there usually a larger,

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the root cause. Isn't there usually a larger, more critical component, such as a proprietary microprocessor, to blow out

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
On 2023/04/18 9:40 a.m., Tony Duell wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:51 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the root cause. As soon as I saw 'Boschert' mental alarm

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/18/23 09:40, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:51 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk > wrote: >> >> The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. >> The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the >> root cause. > > > As soon as I saw

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:51 PM Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote: > > The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. > The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the > root cause. As soon as I saw 'Boschert' mental alarm bells triggered Boschert made a

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Royce Taft via cctalk
I’ve found that following traces and identifying components that connect to either side of the failed resistor is usually a good start for finding root cause. Shorted power transistors, diodes, or portions of bridge rectifiers have been the root cause of cascading failures in my cases.

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-18 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
The blown out resistor likely has "blown out" for a reason. The replacement will probably suffer the same faith unless you find the root cause. On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 12:20 AM John Robertson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I've checked bitsavers.org (Al does a great job!), and a

[cctalk] Re: Schematics for Lear Siegler ADM31?

2023-04-17 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Why don’t you post a picture of the board and see if anyone can id the resistor from an intact Adm31 they already own? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2023, at 09:20, John Robertson via cctalk > wrote: > > I've checked bitsavers.org (Al does a great job!), and a number of forums, > but no