Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-10 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/10/2016 07:31 AM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > Transparent aluminum exists. It is called sapphire. Sapphire is > the crystalline form of aluminum oxide. If you recall, Apple was > thinking of using it for the touch screen face of the iphone. Pardon my pickiness, but sapphire isn't alum

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-10 Thread COURYHOUSE
You bet it does! My friend Jim Early explained to me how it was used on the Bell Solar Batteries ( solar cells) for TELSTAR Ed Sharpe PDP-8 SN18 In a message dated 9/9/2016 7:55:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, d...@dustyoldcomputers.com writes: On Thu, Sep 8,

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-10 Thread COURYHOUSE
yep! In a message dated 9/8/2016 10:46:36 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, p...@pski.net writes: > On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Christian Liendo wrote: > > The only "computer" related thing I can think of is the scene from > Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, where Scotty works on the Macin

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-10 Thread COURYHOUSE
you mean when he picks up the mouse and says hello computer into it? yea I fell outta my seat! Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 9/8/2016 10:31:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, clie...@gmail.com writes: The only "computer" related thing I can t

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Ian S. King
Thank ${deity} we still have those. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 9:21 PM, ben wrote: > On 9/9/2016 7:58 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > >> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: >> >>> Actually it actually *does* exist and is reasonable to manufacture. >>> Here’s the >>> article: >>> http://www.nrl.navy.

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread ben
On 9/9/2016 7:58 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: Actually it actually *does* exist and is reasonable to manufacture. Here’s the article: http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2015/transparent-armor-from-nrl-spinel-could-also-ruggedize-your-smart-phone It

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: >> Actually it actually *does* exist and is reasonable to manufacture. Here’s >> the >> article: >> http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2015/transparent-armor-from-nrl-spinel-could-also-rug

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: Actually it actually *does* exist and is reasonable to manufacture. Here’s the article: http://www.nrl.navy.mil/media/news-releases/2015/transparent-armor-from-nrl-spinel-could-also-ruggedize-your-smart-phone It’s basically a sintered process where t

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Fred Cisin
Transparent aluminum exists. It is called sapphire. Sapphire is the crystalline form of aluminum oxide. If you recall, Apple was thinking of using it for the touch screen face of the iphone. On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Peter Cetinski wrote: Ah yes, but can you make in sheets 60 feet by 10 feet by 1 in

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 1:23 PM, Doug Ingraham wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > >> >>> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Doug Ingraham >> wrote: >>> >>> Transparent aluminum exists. It is called sapphire. Sapphire is the >>> crystalline form of aluminum oxide.

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Doug Ingraham
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > > > On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Doug Ingraham > wrote: > > > > Transparent aluminum exists. It is called sapphire. Sapphire is the > > crystalline form of aluminum oxide. If you recall, Apple was thinking of > > using it for the touch

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Peter Cetinski
> On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Doug Ingraham wrote: > > Transparent aluminum exists. It is called sapphire. Sapphire is the > crystalline form of aluminum oxide. If you recall, Apple was thinking of > using it for the touch screen face of the iphone. > Ah yes, but can you make in sheets 60

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Stefan Skoglund (lokal
tor 2016-09-08 klockan 13:03 -0400 skrev Murray McCullough: > What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are > so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many > things but how many actually happened or am I expecting too much from > a television show of 5

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Doug Ingraham
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > > > Thats why I have no personal plans for a battery/electric car at any point > in the near future. Batteries truly need to make a quantum leap forward > before I would be sold on them. BEV's are practical today. Much safer than gasoline.

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-09 Thread Doug Ingraham
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, Murray McCullough wrote: > And use so much transparent aluminum. > Transparent aluminum exists. It is called sapphire. Sapphire is the crystalline form of aluminum oxide. If you recall, Apple was thinking of using it for

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Joe Giliberti
It's funny you bring up Alexa and Siri. I read an article a few days ago about how Majel Barrett, the voice of the ship's computer from TOS to the first reboot movie (and Gene Roddenberry's wife) recorded a phonetic library shortly before her death. I know that Google at one point had a speech syst

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread TeoZ
08, 2016 10:26 PM To: gene...@classiccmp.org ; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek! Till some big leap forward appears in batteries, or something else, I'm personally hitching my horse wagon behind hydrogen power. Jerry --- This emai

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Jerry Kemp
On 09/ 8/16 07:05 PM, TeoZ wrote: They never really show acceleration and deceleration onboard a spaceship affecting the crew so why bother with seat belts (that would be a pain for the actors to use)? Besides what good would they do if you actually hit something large in space at the speed of

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Jerry Kemp
On 09/ 8/16 07:14 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, TeoZ wrote: They never really show acceleration and deceleration onboard a spaceship affecting the crew so why bother with seat belts (that would be a pain for the actors to use)? Besides what good would they do if you actually hit so

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Jerry Kemp
On 09/ 8/16 06:07 PM, Ali wrote: Star Trek:TNG brought us our first view of Apple iPads. Jerry Except of course in the 24th century the concept of storing more than one piece of data on the same pad did not exist. So each report had to be on a separate pad. And of course data could be transf

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, TeoZ wrote: They never really show acceleration and deceleration onboard a spaceship affecting the crew so why bother with seat belts (that would be a pain for the actors to use)? Besides what good would they do if you actually hit something large in space at the speed of li

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread TeoZ
cool if somebody comes up with a batter that hold crazy amounts of energy and would not short out in your pocket. -Original Message- From: Fred Cisin Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 1:34 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek! On

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 04:07:45PM -0700, Ali wrote: > > Star Trek:TNG brought us our first view of Apple iPads. > > > > Jerry > > Except of course in the 24th century the concept of storing more than one > piece of data on the same pad did not exist. So each report had to be on a > separate pad.

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/08/2016 03:54 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > My physician uses a Palm Pilot type device specifically to look up > medication doses and drug interactions. He knows the fellow who wrote > the program, who had the device that was used in sick bay in mind > when he wrote it. The telemetry unit

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 09:37:35PM +, Rich Alderson wrote: > ("Wagon Train to the Stars", as Roddenberry envisioned it.) Well, specifically, how he sold the concept to the networks. mcl

RE: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Ali
> Star Trek:TNG brought us our first view of Apple iPads. > > Jerry Except of course in the 24th century the concept of storing more than one piece of data on the same pad did not exist. So each report had to be on a separate pad. And of course data could be transferred everywhere except between

RE: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Electronics Plus
My physician uses a Palm Pilot type device specifically to look up medication doses and drug interactions. He knows the fellow who wrote the program, who had the device that was used in sick bay in mind when he wrote it. The telemetry unit I wore in the hospital last week is another take off on

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Jerry Kemp
Star Trek:TNG brought us our first view of Apple iPads. Jerry On 09/ 8/16 12:03 PM, Murray McCullough wrote: What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many things but how many actually happened or am I e

RE: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Murray McCullough Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 10:04 AM > What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are > so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many > things but how many actually happened or am I expecting too much from > a television s

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Ian S. King
It's interesting to me that the Enterprise computers were effectively command-and-control grammars, albeit somewhat freeform regarding the commands (e.g., "Provide information about such-and-so" with no paramters as to *what* knowledge). There were only a select few episodes about self-aware or se

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread jim stephens
On 9/8/2016 10:41 AM, Al Kossow wrote: On 9/8/16 10:03 AM, Murray McCullough wrote: What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are so ubiquitous today? The main thing that comes to mind is how often images or references to TOS appear in mid-70's computing magazines. I

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/08/2016 11:01 AM, Thomas Kula wrote: > I remember reading, ages ago, that the ubiquitous 'memory tapes' > they were always shoving into techno things on TOS were about the > size of a 3.5" disk. And, after they started to become common, I > remember thinking that USB 'thumb drives' were abou

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Thomas Kula
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 01:03:36PM -0400, Murray McCullough wrote: > What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are > so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many > things but how many actually happened or am I expecting too much from > a television sho

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Peter Cetinski
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 09/08/2016 10:25 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > >> A few examples are the PADD (iPad and other tablets) and the >> Communicator (Mobile Phones). > > Maybe, but the computer "brain" IIRC was always shipboard. Dick Tracy > had the 2-way wrist

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Peter Cetinski
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Christian Liendo wrote: > > The only "computer" related thing I can think of is the scene from > Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, where Scotty works on the Macintosh > trying to show transparent aluminum. > > In my own humble opinion it is one of the best scenes ever

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/08/2016 10:25 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > A few examples are the PADD (iPad and other tablets) and the > Communicator (Mobile Phones). Maybe, but the computer "brain" IIRC was always shipboard. Dick Tracy had the 2-way wrist radio decades before. Perhaps in years to come, the tricorder m

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/8/16 10:03 AM, Murray McCullough wrote: > What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are > so ubiquitous today? The main thing that comes to mind is how often images or references to TOS appear in mid-70's computing magazines.

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, Murray McCullough wrote: What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many things but how many actually happened or am I expecting too much from a television show of 50 years ago? ALL of

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Christian Liendo
The only "computer" related thing I can think of is the scene from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, where Scotty works on the Macintosh trying to show transparent aluminum. In my own humble opinion it is one of the best scenes ever from a Star Trek movie or show.

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Peter Cetinski
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 1:03 PM, Murray McCullough > wrote: > > What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are > so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many > things but how many actually happened or am I expecting too much from > a television show of

Re: 50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Eric Smith
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Murray McCullough wrote: > What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are > so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many > things but how many actually happened or am I expecting too much from > a television show of 50

50 yrs. of Star Trek!

2016-09-08 Thread Murray McCullough
What role did Star Trek play in the rise of small computers that are so ubiquitous today? This science fiction series prognosticated many things but how many actually happened or am I expecting too much from a television show of 50 years ago? Happy computing! Murray