Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Robo58
Hi Folks, I have many diskettes worth of CP/M 2.2 assembler source code and programs that I'd like to archive in the PC environment. I'm worried that my media is degrading and I want to move it before it's too late. The media is mostly 8" SD or DD, there are also some 5.25" HD diskettes too. I

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Robo58 wrote: Hi Folks, I have many diskettes worth of CP/M 2.2 assembler source code and programs that I'd like to archive in the PC environment. I'm worried that my media is degrading and I want to move it before it's too late. The media is mostly 8" SD or DD, there are

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/15/2016 08:09 AM, Robo58 wrote: Hi Folks, I have many diskettes worth of CP/M 2.2 assembler source code and programs that I'd like to archive in the PC environment. I'm worried that my media is degrading and I want to move it before it's too late. The media is mostly 8" SD or DD, there

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Mike Stein
t; programs would suggest? > > Thank you > Robo > > > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william > degnan > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:40 AM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <ccta

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/15/2016 06:09 AM, Robo58 wrote: I have many diskettes worth of CP/M 2.2 assembler source code and programs that I'd like to archive in the PC environment. I'm worried that my media is degrading and I want to move it before it's too late. The media is mostly 8" SD or DD, there are also

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Robo58
016 10:40 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media) do you have a working 8" drive? You can attach to a PC from the 386 through to Pentium III as a "HD 5 1/4&

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread william degnan
ay, January 15, 2016 10:10 AM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subject: Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS > media) > > On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Robo58 wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I have ma

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Robo58
t;cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media) On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Robo58 wrote: > Hi Folks, > I have many diskettes worth of CP/M 2.2 assembler source code and > programs that I'd like to archive in the PC environment. I'm wo

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Robo58 wrote: I'm a little rusty on the older PC's. So when you say that 386 to PIII's could read an 8" floppy, would those PC's have SD floppy controllers? Some (such as 37c65 based FDCs) do, some don't. Dave Dunfield made a test program, to help identify them. If

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC

2016-01-15 Thread mark
From: Jon Elson Got a console serial port on the CP/M system? You should be able to use a program like Kermit to suck up the files. Something like this was going to be my suggestion, too. The original request was to archive the source files, not the disks

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016, Steven Hirsch wrote: The simplest approach (as suggested by Fred) would be to use 22Disk to simply read files out of the CP/M filesystem. If you are dealing with a non-standard format that is not in the default database, you would need to purchase a registered copy that

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Eric Smith
On Jan 15, 2016 8:32 AM, "Robo58" wrote: > The 8" SD diskettes are standard IBM format (I > believe 3740 physical format) 26 sectors. Almost all SD 8 inch use that physical format, though there are some oddball formats like OSI. Similarly almost all 8 inch SD CP/M disks

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread william degnan
CP/M disks, - if they're soft sectored - are just about the easiest non PC DOS format to image assuming you have the right set up. It takes me 20 seconds per disk with Dunfield's utility. I use a DBIT 50/34 pin adapter to convert a the 8" 50pin disk cable to a 34-pin 5 1/4" cable. With this

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Robo58 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 3:06 PM > Does PuTTy have any logging functions that would put whatever goes to the > screen into a disk file? That way I could "Type" source file after source > file and then separate them later on the PC. Yes. In the configuration box that comes up

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/15/2016 02:00 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Jan 15, 2016 8:32 AM, "Robo58" wrote: The 8" SD diskettes are standard IBM format (I believe 3740 physical format) 26 sectors. Almost all SD 8 inch use that physical format, though there are some oddball formats like OSI.

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS

2016-01-15 Thread Freek Heite
From: Robo58 I'm looking for suggestions on how to move it to the PC environment. IF your CP/M machine has a serial interface, I would connect it to a serial interface on your PC. Then use programs/protocols like

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Robo58
Hi Folks, Thank you all for the suggestions and feedback. I appreciate your help clearing my cobwebs. Let me answer a few of the questions that were asked. Both CP/M systems have serial ports so I'm good there. I likely have 50 pin to 34 pin floppy conversion cables as over time we moved

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 01/15/2016 03:06 PM, Robo58 wrote: Was/is there a way to convert "Com" files to the Intel checksum format on CP/M 2.2 systems ? Yes, you want the "GENHEX" utility. It was a standard part of MP/M and will run on CP/M, but it's probably floating around on the SIG/M archive as well.

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Robo58
Hi Rich, Thanks. I look for it. Robo -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rich Alderson Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:11 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: Archiving CP

Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Chuck Guzis
Found a copy of GENHEX on bitsavers here: ftp://ftp.uk.freesbie.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/Users_Groups/FOG/QX10/extracted/QX10.06/GENHEX.CPM Just change the extension to .COM and you're good. --Chuck

RE: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media)

2016-01-15 Thread Robo58
2016 6:29 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Archiving CP/M 2.2 Source Code Programs to a PC (Fat or NTFS media) Found a copy of GENHEX on bitsavers here: ftp://ftp.uk.freesbie.org/sites/www.bitsavers.org/bits/Users_Groups/FOG/QX10/e