Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-29 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Before you get too far, the original source disk from Qualcomm is still available and some work has started to try to recover the Mac files and their resource forks at CHM. On 5/29/18 7:21 AM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: >> On May 25, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Al Kossow wrote: >> >> yea.. I'm not

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-29 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
> On May 25, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > yea.. I'm not going to dig into it myself. > Just wanted to warn people some archaeology will be necessary to rebuild the > Mac version. > > > On 5/25/18 3:09 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: >> ResEdit 2.1 can see a whole page of Resources in the

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-25 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
yea.. I'm not going to dig into it myself. Just wanted to warn people some archaeology will be necessary to rebuild the Mac version. On 5/25/18 3:09 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: > ResEdit 2.1 can see a whole page of Resources in the Eudora Application.

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-25 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
> On May 25, 2018, at 4:44 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > On 5/25/18 2:29 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: > >>> I dream of a new version of Eudora for the Mac > > Someone has noticed that all of the resource forks in the files have > disappeared :-( Al,

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-25 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 5/25/18 2:29 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: >> I dream of a new version of Eudora for the Mac Someone has noticed that all of the resource forks in the files have disappeared :-(

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-25 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
> On May 22, 2018, at 3:02 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk > wrote: > > >> On May 22, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Len Shustek via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to allow >> the Computer History Museum

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-25 Thread Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk
Thanks for doing this. I still use Eudora as my primary mail program and have been doing so since about 1991, first on Mac and then on Windoze. Have started using Thunderbird as easier to configure for new email formats and should probably get up to speed on developments since popmail format

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/24/2018 04:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I'm not entirely sure that I do use gmail for SMTP. I rarely use it to send mail--i use it mostly as a "junk mail collector" or for something that requires a gmail address. Fair. I don't recall if I used my own relay for outgoing SMTP

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/24/2018 02:43 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I was meaning to imply that "gmail as a server" can mean multiple > things.  As in stating "gmail as a server" by itself is not enough to > I also suspect that you are using Gmail as an SMTP server, despite not > saying such. I'm not

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 5/23/2018 9:28 AM, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: > > > On Tue, 22 May 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: >> so I use Thunderbird on a Linux platform.  It is awfully slow. >> Sometimes it takes 5 minutes to download 3 messages when I start it up. >> >> At home I use Thunderbird with standard

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/24/2018 02:30 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: You haven't been paying attention, Grant. I mentioned a bit earlier that I used POP3 with gmail. I have. You mistook my meaning. I was meaning to imply that "gmail as a server" can mean multiple things. As in stating "gmail as a

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/24/2018 10:08 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 05/23/2018 09:41 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> I'd prefer to keep my own messages > > I do too. > >> and just use gmail as a server. > > What sort of server?  IMAP, POP3, SMTP, file & printer, fax? You haven't been paying

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 09:41 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I'd prefer to keep my own messages I do too. and just use gmail as a server. What sort of server? IMAP, POP3, SMTP, file & printer, fax? I'm asking sort of to be ornery but it does make a difference which you mean in the context of

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/24/2018 07:55 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: It's about the best browser-based email I've ever seen, though, and I've tried most of them since Elonex HTMaiL in 1995. Most suck. A few are OK. Gmail is actually good. They're dropping useful features all the time, though. Gmail's web

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Wouter de Waal via cctalk
For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to allow the Computer History Museum to release the source code of what was, in my opinion, the finest email client ever written: Eudora. It's finally done! Yay! Now someone can fix the bugs :-) (6.2 here. Massive archive of

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 24 May 2018 at 14:51, Peter Corlett via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > There are two parts to this. The first is that Thunderbird is a bloated > monstrosity ejected when Mozilla collapsed under its own weight and went > supernova. It's had years of feature creep since. Up to a

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 09:28:40AM -0500, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: [...] > It's slower than molasses in january. Moving eMail around between 'folders' > often has it sit and spin the beachball for 2-3 seconds - dozens of times a > day. And I just can't work out why - I mean, yes, it's a lot of

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 06:53 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I /think/ I knew that.  But I obviously forgot it. pop.googlemail.com port 995. > Yep, Gmail supports Google Sync. > > Link - What is Google Sync? >  - https://support.google.com/a/answer/135937?hl=en I'd prefer to keep my own

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 11:30 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Gmail also allows for a POP3 interface. I /think/ I knew that. But I obviously forgot it. I was actually trying to remember if Gmail had something more akin to ActiveSync or something else that ran over top of HTTPS that email clients

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 08:49 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > How are you interfacing with Gmail?  IMAP or something else.  —  I think > Thunderbird supports interfacing with Gmail in another protocol.  I may > be wrong. Gmail also allows for a POP3 interface. I'd originally used the suggested IMAP

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 16:28, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: > Apologies to hijack this one (I can't tell you how impressed I am with > both the CHM's efforts and Qualcomm's release, I find these things really > exciting for our hobby) - but I've been having real troubles

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 09:28 AM, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: so I use Thunderbird on a Linux platform. It is awfully slow. Sometimes it takes 5 minutes to download 3 messages when I start it up. At home I use Thunderbird with standard Linux smtp and

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/23/2018 08:28 AM, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: Apologies to hijack this one (I can't tell you how impressed I am with both the CHM's efforts and Qualcomm's release, I find these things really exciting for our hobby) - but I've been having real troubles with TBird in the last few years and

OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread JP Hindin via cctalk
On Tue, 22 May 2018, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: so I use Thunderbird on a Linux platform. It is awfully slow. Sometimes it takes 5 minutes to download 3 messages when I start it up. At home I use Thunderbird with standard Linux smtp and pop servers and it works fine. Apologies to hijack

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-22 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 05/22/2018 05:16 PM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: Dang-nabbit. Just a few weeks ago I decided I needed to move away from Eudora. I uninstalled Office 2003 and bought a subscription to Office 365 and began the search for a tool to move all my Eudora 7.1.0.9 email archives to Outlook PST.

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-22 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 02:55 PM 5/22/2018, Len Shustek via cctalk wrote: >For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to allow >the Computer History Museum to release the source code of what was, in my >opinion, the finest email client ever written: Eudora. It's finally done!

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 05/22/2018 01:55 PM, Len Shustek via cctalk wrote: For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to allow the Computer History Museum to release the source code of what was, in my opinion, the finest email client ever written: Eudora. It's finally done!

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-22 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Tue, 22 May 2018, Len Shustek via cctalk wrote: For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to allow the Computer History Museum to release the source code of what was, in my opinion, the finest email client ever written: Eudora. It's finally done!

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On May 22, 2018, at 12:55 PM, Len Shustek via cctalk > wrote: > > For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to allow > the Computer History Museum to release the source code of what was, in my > opinion, the finest email client ever written:

Re: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
I still use Eudora today...since 1995. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 3:55 PM, Len Shustek via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to > allow the Computer History Museum to release the source code of what was, > in my opinion, the

Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-22 Thread Len Shustek via cctalk
For the last five years I've been working with Qualcomm and others to allow the Computer History Museum to release the source code of what was, in my opinion, the finest email client ever written: Eudora. It's finally done!