Nitpick: It's not the "Monster 6502", it's the "MOnSter 6502".
Eric has added discrete capacitors to the internal buses which has it
working better than before. I haven't heard whether that's improved
the maximum clock rate.
://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-larger-than-life-version-of-the-iconic-microchip/
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On 05/30/2016 01:26 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:42:30AM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
There's a guy in Germany who did one, using all SMT parts.
Could it be Dieters MT15 you are thinking of? Quite inspiring project:
http://6502.org/users/dieter/mt15/mt15.htm
http://6502.or
On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:42:30AM -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> There's a guy in Germany who did one, using all SMT parts.
Could it be Dieters MT15 you are thinking of? Quite inspiring project:
http://6502.org/users/dieter/mt15/mt15.htm
http://6502.org/users/dieter/mt15/mt15_cpu_front.jpg
/P
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 3:42 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
> On 05/29/2016 04:13 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure I read of someone who was implementing an entire CPU as discrete
>> components on an even larger size... there were racks of the thing; it took
>> up most of a room. But I can't find the lin
On 2016-May-29, at 2:13 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
> On May 29, 2016 2:44 PM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote:
>>
>>> From: drlegendre
>>
>>> Gawd, what a lovely piece of work that man hath wrought!
>>
>> I love the term he invented for it: "dis-integrated circuit"! :-)
>>
>>
>> Good FAQ page here:
>>
>> ht
On 05/29/2016 04:13 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
I'm sure I read of someone who was implementing an entire
CPU as discrete components on an even larger size... there
were racks of the thing; it took up most of a room. But I
can't find the link Mike
There's a guy in Germany who did one, using all S
On 29 May 2016 at 11:13, Mike Ross wrote:
> I'm sure I read of someone who was implementing an entire CPU as discrete
> components on an even larger size... there were racks of the thing; it took
> up most of a room.
>
> But I can't find the link
http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~harry/Relay/
...?
pull up resistance in single
process designs.
Dwight
From: cctalk on behalf of Mike Ross
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 2:13:07 AM
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Subject: Re: Monster 6502
On May 29, 2016 2:44 PM, "Noel Chiappa&qu
On May 29, 2016 2:44 PM, "Noel Chiappa" wrote:
>
> > From: drlegendre
>
> > Gawd, what a lovely piece of work that man hath wrought!
>
> I love the term he invented for it: "dis-integrated circuit"! :-)
>
>
> Good FAQ page here:
>
> http://www.monster6502.com/
>
> My favourite entry:
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brent
> Hilpert
> Sent: 29 May 2016 02:50
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Monster 6502
>
> On 2016-May-28, at 6:22 PM, drlegendre . wrot
> From: drlegendre
> Gawd, what a lovely piece of work that man hath wrought!
I love the term he invented for it: "dis-integrated circuit"! :-)
Good FAQ page here:
http://www.monster6502.com/
My favourite entry:
"Q: Are you nuts?
A: Probably."
Clearly a person after our own heart
Oh sure.. because I always thought that SRAM was intrinsically faster than
DRAM, all other factors held constant?
On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> Fewer transistors, hence less die space.
>
> Same reason DRAM is more dense (hence larger) than SRAM.
>
>
> On 2016-May-28, at
Fewer transistors, hence less die space.
Same reason DRAM is more dense (hence larger) than SRAM.
On 2016-May-28, at 7:12 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
> So what's the reasoning behind using gate capacitance (or inductance) to
> store the bit state? It would seem obvious that setting a bi-stable hi o
So what's the reasoning behind using gate capacitance (or inductance) to
store the bit state? It would seem obvious that setting a bi-stable hi or
lo would be a much more reliable method of saving the state.
Is it a matter of power consumption, or switching speed, or both?
On Sat, May 28, 2016 at
On 2016-May-28, at 6:22 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
>
> Could someone also clarify what is meant by "gates" in this sense? Are we
> talking about the gates (G) of a FET, as in Gate, Drain and Source - or are
> we referring to the composite logic gates (NAND, etc.), built up of
> multiple bipolar - or
on delays could matter at these slow speeds.. requiring
> meandering of traces and so forth.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Corey Cohen
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On May 28, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 5:31 AM,
6 at 2:55 PM, Corey Cohen
wrote:
>
> > On May 28, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Corey Cohen
> wrote:
> >> I can't wait to buy one!!! I have a spare Replica-1 just waiting to
> hook up to a Monster 6502.
&
> On May 28, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Corey Cohen
>> wrote:
>> I can't wait to buy one!!! I have a spare Replica-1 just waiting to hook up
>> to a Monster 6502.
>
> It doesn't run at fu
n-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Monster 6502
On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Corey Cohen wrote:
> I can't wait to buy one!!! I have a spare Replica-1 just waiting to hook up
> to a Monster 6502.
It doesn't run at full speed. It presently runs in the tens to low
hundreds of
On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Corey Cohen wrote:
> I can't wait to buy one!!! I have a spare Replica-1 just waiting to hook up
> to a Monster 6502.
It doesn't run at full speed. It presently runs in the tens to low
hundreds of kHz. If a Replica-1 can be run slower than no
Absolutely Amazin' Eric! KUDOS!
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 5/28/2016 9:51:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cct...@ibm51xx.net writes:
http://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-
> larger-than-life-version-of-th
> Here is a video of it running at Maker Faire
>
> http://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-
> larger-than-life-version-of-the-iconic-microchip/
>
That is just beautiful.
-Ali
On 5/28/16 9:06 AM, Sam O'nella wrote:
> That is incredibly awesome.
The especially cool part is that it isn't static logic. The state is stored as
charge on the gate, which is why
there was a minimum clock speed on the NMOS 6502. As you slow the clock down,
you can see the bits rot, and finge
d the keyboard buffer in dos.
Back on topic, what a great and educational creation by Eric.
Original message From: Al Kossow
Date:05/27/2016 10:15 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Subject: Monster 6502
Here is a video of it r
th wrought! And am I the only
> one who felt the list of 'notable users' was essentially backwards??
>
> Should be Apple, CBM, Nintendo - eh? No?
>
>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
>>
>> Here is a video of it running at Maker Faire
ly backwards??
Should be Apple, CBM, Nintendo - eh? No?
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote:
> Here is a video of it running at Maker Faire
>>
>>
>> http://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-larger-than-life-version-of-the-iconic-mi
Here is a video of it running at Maker Faire
http://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-larger-than-life-version-of-the-iconic-microchip/
It will be at CHM for VCF West, too. :)
Here is a video of it running at Maker Faire
http://makezine.com/2016/05/27/this-functioning-monster-6502-is-a-larger-than-life-version-of-the-iconic-microchip/
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