Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin
connected them with a Laplink parallel cable (I've still got a box of them). On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, Jules Richardson wrote: Roughly what length are the cables? And do you know if they do anything special internally regarding shielding of the data lines? They, and those of other similar

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread Jules Richardson
On 11/13/2015 11:56 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: connected them with a Laplink parallel cable (I've still got a box of them). Roughly what length are the cables? And do you know if they do anything special internally regarding shielding of the data lines? I think I should probably wire one up,

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread william degnan
On Nov 13, 2015 9:13 AM, "Johnny Billquist" wrote: > > On 2015-11-13 12:36, william degnan wrote: >> >> I used to use a program called Laplink, which came with special serial and >> parallel option cables to transfer files from one dos machine to another. >> It was useful to

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-14 Thread Fred Cisin
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015, william degnan wrote: I have a copy of the laplink software should anyone need it. If the cable for parallel is just a null modem I suggest a person in this hobby definitely add laplink to the bag of tricks available. You just fire it up on both ends ll.exe ... and you'll

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Christian Corti
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Tom Moss wrote: I've never seen anything works on the sector level, but there are plenty of There is DITU (Disk-Image Transfer Utility) for MS-DOS, and it's free including C source code. I use it e.g. to image the hard disk of a DOS PC into a file (either network or

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote: (Well, by straight through I mean that they were null-model cables.)

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Charles Anthony
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Jules Richardson < jules.richardso...@gmail.com> wrote: > Vintage PCs are just a pain - new enough to make significant use of hard > disk technology, but old enough that getting the data off them isn't quite > as trivial as it likely would be on a much newer

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Jules Richardson
On 11/12/2015 05:52 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 11/12/2015 01:54 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Josh Dersch
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Jules Richardson < jules.richardso...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/12/2015 05:52 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> On 11/12/2015 01:54 PM, Jules Richardson wrote: >> >> >>> > Alternatively, you could boot DOS from floppy with INTERLINK/INTERSVR >> installed and use another

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 11/13/2015 05:10 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: FWIW, DOS 6.xx will boot on anything 100% PC-compatible, 8088 on up, and it shouldn't have a problem reading filesystems created by earlier DOS versions. Assuming you can write a bootable floppy and get INTERLNK onto it, that would probably be the

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Tom Moss
This may also be of use: https://www.briggsoft.com/fmdos.htm On 12 November 2015 at 21:58, Tom Moss wrote: > I've never seen anything works on the sector level, but there are plenty > of terminal emulators that can backup entire directorties with YMODEM batch > or

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Mouse
> As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up > an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to > a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options > exist) Bring up a liveCD or moral equivalent and run SLIP, then do any of many

RE: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Cindy Croxton
We used to back up to serial attached devices, such as tape drives or a serially attached hard drive, but I never did it to a different operating system, sorry. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jules Richardson Sent: Thursday, November

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Warner Losh
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Mouse wrote: > > As per subject line, does anyone know of any util that will back up > > an x86 PC running some variant of DOS (MS, Compaq etc.) via rs232 to > > a remote system? (Linux preferable on the remote, but other options > >

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Mouse
>> Bring up a liveCD or moral equivalent and run SLIP, then do any of >> many networked-backup variants? > Hmm, was SLIP an option for DOS TCP/IP stacks? I meant for the livecd to be on the usually-running-DOS machine. But see below. Of course, if you have the ability to add hardware, you might

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Fred Cisin
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015, Mouse wrote: However, I _think_ some old Sun and MicroVAX machines play in that space; I've seen Qbus hardware that talks to drives with card-edge connectors and I've seen SCSI-to-cardedge interfaces on Suns of Sun-3/260 vintage. I don't know the details of ST506, ESDI, and

Re: x86/DOS system backup via rs232?

2015-11-12 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/12/15 4:00 PM, Mouse wrote: However, I _think_ some old Sun and MicroVAX machines play in that space; I've seen Qbus hardware that talks to drives with card-edge connectors and I've seen SCSI-to-cardedge interfaces on Suns of Sun-3/260 vintage. I don't know the details of ST506, ESDI,