Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Warren Toomey via cctalk
The "old Unix" mailing list has been running since October 1995: http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/ Cheers, Warren

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Andrew K. Bressen via cctalk
Telecom digest has been running since 1981. I don't know if any of the Amateur Press Associations (APAs) made the leap to digital, but an APA is fundamentally a digest email list done with a copier/mimeograph/hectograph and the postal service as the transport layer, and there's at least one act

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 04/21/2017 12:28 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > Multi-user communication systems of a somewhat different architecture > are even older: "Notes files" on the PLATO system. AUTODIN and predecessors, such as ComLogNet extend into the 1950s. --Chuck

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk > wrote: > >> From: Bill Gunshannon > >> Surely there were Mailing Lists prior to the existence of the Internet, >> yes? > > Absolutely. They started on the ARPANet, fairly early on. > > E.g. SF-Lovers (one of the first 'non-mission rela

RE: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> From: Bill Gunshannon > Surely there were Mailing Lists prior to the existence of the Internet, > yes? Absolutely. They started on the ARPANet, fairly early on. E.g. SF-Lovers (one of the first 'non-mission related' mailing lists) started in September, 1979, and MsgGroup (an 'offic

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
Oldest mailing lists prolly held by snail mail type groups. That evovled into the digital age On Apr 21, 2017 11:40 AM, "Tony Duell via cctalk" wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Thomas Kula via cctalk > wrote: > > > To be fair, while we may have missed the 020th and 20th anniversaries,

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Thomas Kula via cctalk wrote: > To be fair, while we may have missed the 020th and 20th anniversaries, > we're well ahead of the 0x20th anniversary. > > So --- what base are we using? Or what about celebrating 8192 days of the list, which I think is a little over

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Thomas Kula via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 05:18:03PM +0100, Tony Duell via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 09:34:52AM -0500, Jay West via cctalk wrote: > >> > >> But that being said... we should have had a party or something *grin*. >

RE: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Noel Chiappa via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 10:51 AM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 09:34:52AM -0500, Jay West via cctalk wrote: >> >> But that being said... we should have had a party or something *grin*. >> > > You could argue that years are index starting from zero. Thus the > 20-year

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Shoppa, Tim via cctalk
I am living proof that a good Fortran Programmer can write spaghetti code in any language. Fortran by default starts all of its array indices at 1 so I would argue that we are now in year 21. A C programmer would disagree. Tim N3QE Sent from my VAX-11/780 > On Apr 21, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Jay W

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk > wrote: > > It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist? Part of the question I’d have, is do you mean on the Internet the whole time? I’m on one for photography that started out life on Fidonet, moved to the In

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
> On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:26 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist? I don't have access to my _old_ email (i.e. from the 80's) to confirm this, and I don't think they still have copies of the very oldest mail, but the IETF list has got

RE: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Pontus wrote... - You could argue that years are index starting from zero. Thus the 20-year celebration is next year and we have ample time to prepare. - That's a hilariously great idea for the rationalization and justification department *grin* J

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 09:34:52AM -0500, Jay West via cctalk wrote: > > But that being said... we should have had a party or something *grin*. > You could argue that years are index starting from zero. Thus the 20-year celebration is next year and we have ample time to prepare. (It's what we

RE: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
On Fri, 21 Apr 2017, Jay West via cctalk wrote: And yes, many are here just for the relationships and comradery that has developed over decades of the lists existence. But that being said... we should have had a party or something *grin*. We could have the party at VCF MW in September. :

RE: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Zane wrote... - I think it's safe to say that a list dedicated to computer history, forgot its own history. - I beg to disagree with the premise. Yes, there are quite a few people here that focus on the history and historical aspects of the hobby. But that doesn't mean the list is "dedi

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 21, 2017, at 1:26 AM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk > wrote: > > Congratulations to us all, even if a little late. > > It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist? Don't know about *the* oldest, but one that's quite old and still very active is the TZ mailing list

RE: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk [cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 7:27 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 01:27:09PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk > wrote: > > Congratulations to us all, even if a little late. > > > > It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist? > > Still running, o

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk wrote: > Congratulations to us all, even if a little late. > > It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist? Still running, or still getting on-topic posts to it? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-20 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
Congratulations to us all, even if a little late. It makes me wonder, what is the oldest still running mailinglist? /P On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 09:09:01PM +, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote: > A FAQ in my old emails show the founding of the Classiccmp mailing list as > being 20 years and 1 mont

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-20 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
wow what? On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > A FAQ in my old emails show the founding of the Classiccmp mailing list > as being 20 years and 1 mont

Re: Did we miss the 20th anniversary of classiccmp?

2017-04-20 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Apr 20, 2017, at 2:09 PM, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk > wrote: > > A FAQ in my old emails show the founding of the Classiccmp mailing list as > being 20 years and 1 month ago. March 13 1997 was when Bill Whitson first set > up the classiccmp list at the University of Washington. > > Tim N3QE