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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Tapley, Mark wrote: > Hm. I played “air traffic controller” on Mac Plus for a while. Was there > an earlier screen-terminal version of that? Would be a completetly > different game without the mouse, but …? > There should be a UNIX curses version in bsdgames. --

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Hm. I played “air traffic controller” on Mac Plus for a while. Was there an earlier screen-terminal version of that? Would be a completetly different game without the mouse, but …? - Mark 210-522-6025 office

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:37:33PM -0700, Zane Healy wrote: >> >> PDP-11: >> Pac-Man (cool to see on a VT) >> > > Where could I get a hold of this? Googling for pacman.sav and RT-11 got me these: http://pdp-11.org.ru/~form/rtgames/

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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:57:13PM -0500, Adrian Stoness wrote: > > Oils well Oil's Well is great on the C64. /P

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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 08:37:33PM -0700, Zane Healy wrote: > > PDP-11: > Pac-Man (cool to see on a VT) > Where could I get a hold of this? /P

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > This discussion is stirring up so many old memories. > > I distinctively recall, back at the time that this was relevant, that the > (DOS) network game play was disrupting/saturating networks, because, if I > recall the article correctly, the g

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supporting links, but not the original article from back in the day.

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On Wed, 12 Oct 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote: This discussion is stirring up so many old memories. I distinctively recall, back at the time that this was relevant, that the (DOS) network game play was disrupting/saturating networks, because, if I recall the article correctly, the game was communicat

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This discussion is stirring up so many old memories. I distinctively recall, back at the time that this was relevant, that the (DOS) network game play was disrupting/saturating networks, because, if I recall the article correctly, the game was communicating with other nodes using broadcast pac

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> > > > > As far as Doom, not long after I became a Sun employee in Mountain View > > in '94-95, we played Doom Arena, a networked, multiplayer version of Doom. > > > > I think you might be conflating 2 games here. > > Doom was *always* multiplayer and network aware. Doom 1.0 for DOS used > IPX net

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On 2016-10-12 09:21, Eric Smith wrote: DEC PDP-10: MACRO-10 CP/M: Turbo Pascal (These are significantly more challenging than most of the other games that have been mentioned, but with more subjective scoring.) Good one ;-)

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DEC PDP-10: MACRO-10 CP/M: Turbo Pascal (These are significantly more challenging than most of the other games that have been mentioned, but with more subjective scoring.)

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> On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: >> Find better games :) >> >> The theme of this list means that I should recommend some retro games and >> gaming systems... > > I am actively seeking lists of favorite games on all plat

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It's not bad. I have it on an Indy, which is where I played it originally (wasting time at the Salk Institute as an undergrad -- we used the SGIs for visualization of X-ray crystallography). There is also a decent SGI port of Quake. When I worked at NASA they had a copy of Cave Quake. It could r

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> I played SGI Doom the other day for the first time. There are always new > discoveries, I did not even know this port existed. It's not bad. I have it on an Indy, which is where I played it originally (wasting time at the Salk Institute as an undergrad -- we used the SGIs for visualization of X

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On 11 October 2016 at 20:11, Dave Wade wrote: > My sons' friends used to come to our house to play as at the time we were the > only one with two computers and a network... Yes, for me, it was the first ever _home_ network I constructed -- to connect my and my flatmate's PCs, over a parallel La

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- Original Message - > From: "Ethan Dicks" > Subject: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!]) [... snip ...] >and curses-based UNIX games, and would like to add more platforms. I'm > especially interested in any favorites that run

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> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Liam > Proven > Sent: 11 October 2016 19:04 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!

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On 11 October 2016 at 19:41, Alan Perry wrote: > > As far as Doom, not long after I became a Sun employee in Mountain View in > '94-95, we played Doom Arena, a networked, multiplayer version of Doom. I think you might be conflating 2 games here. Doom was *always* multiplayer and network aware.

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Get a minute on and a mame Machean at ur hackerspace ;) Mines doing a retro computer gathering in December though I'm pritty much the only retro computer person but it does draw interest. I also organize synth meetups. Skullspace As for games SimCity original Space quest 3 Oils well Transport ty

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> On Oct 11, 2016, at 09:24, Josh Dersch wrote: > >> On 10/11/16 9:06 AM, Charles Anthony wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:44 AM, william degnan >> wrote: >> DOS PC: Doom >>> Last comment from me... >>> >>> I played SGI Doom the other day for the first time. Th

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As I understand it, the SGIs were the development platform for DOOM, and the PC version is the 'port'. -- Charles SGI was a development platform for Nintendo 64 console games. http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/my-complete-sgi-ultra64-dev-set-manual-scans-dev-software.45165/ -- Ethan O'Toole

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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:44 AM, william degnan wrote: > Last comment from me... > > I played SGI Doom the other day for the first time. There are always new > discoveries, I did not even know this port existed. > You can also play Doom on an HP / Agilent 16700 series logic analyzer (PA-RISC CPU

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On 10/11/16 9:06 AM, Charles Anthony wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:44 AM, william degnan wrote: DOS PC: Doom Last comment from me... I played SGI Doom the other day for the first time. There are always new discoveries, I did not even know this port existed. As I understand it, the

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On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 8:44 AM, william degnan wrote: > > > > > > DOS PC: Doom > > > > > Last comment from me... > > I played SGI Doom the other day for the first time. There are always new > discoveries, I did not even know this port existed. > As I understand it, the SGIs were the developmen

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> > > DOS PC: Doom > > Last comment from me... I played SGI Doom the other day for the first time. There are always new discoveries, I did not even know this port existed. There is always vintage console gaming at (what was once MARCH but is now) the VCFed club's holiday party each December. Ia

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On 10 October 2016 at 22:56, Ethan Dicks wrote: > I am actively seeking lists of favorite games on all platforms prior > to 1995. Classic 9" mono Mac: Crystal Quest CBM PET: The Valley BBC Micro: Elite ZX Spectrum: Jet-Pac, The Hobbit, the Strangler's Aural Quest Acorn Archimedes: Zarch (well, t

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On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 04:56:40PM -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote: > hackerspace. I'm already bringing the hardware - to date, Commodore > PET, Commodore 64, Apple II, Atari 2600, PDP-8 (emulated for now), and > curses-based UNIX games, and would like to add more platforms. I'm certain you will be over

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On Oct 10, 2016 7:43 PM, "Jason Howe" wrote: > > > > On Mon, 10 Oct 2016, Ethan Dicks wrote: > >> >> I am actively seeking lists of favorite games on all platforms I recently got a Pocket c.h.i.p and installed MAMe, VICE, etc onto it so I'd have just about any game I ever wanted on a small handh

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2016, Ethan Dicks wrote: I am actively seeking lists of favorite games on all platforms prior to 1995. ... If you've played anything in the past 3 years, I'd especially like to hear about it since that speaks to enjoyment and replayability. If you like it, someone here will

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“Starfleet Orion” and “invasion Orion”. Hot-seat 2-player and solitaire, respectively, written for the TRS-80 in basic so should adapt to other “dumb” terminal displays reasonably easily. 2-d movement, enter orders then stand back to see how the turn plays out. You get to design your own stars

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http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102743371 I was just wondering where that went. On 10/10/16 3:46 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 6:34 PM, dwight wrote: >> Surely someone can come up with a VideoBrain. > > I have heard of the VideoBrain, but I have never seen

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On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 6:34 PM, dwight wrote: > Surely someone can come up with a VideoBrain. I have heard of the VideoBrain, but I have never seen one in person. Excellent suggestion should one turn up, though I doubt it would trigger much nostalgia in most attendees - fascination, surely, but

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Surely someone can come up with a VideoBrain. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Ethan Dicks Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 1:56:40 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Gaming on old systems (was Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:58 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: > Find better games :) > > The theme of this list means that I should recommend some retro games and > gaming systems... I am actively seeking lists of favorite games on all platforms prior to 1995. Specifically, things that require Windows an

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On 10/10/2016 1:38 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Douglas Adams was instrumental in a few games. But, somebody once asked him what he most liked to play with on his Mac. He said The Desktop. It's like "Hunt the Wumpus" but with no Wumpus... -ethan

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On 10/10/2016 1:29 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 10/10/2016 01:21 PM, jim stephens wrote: If you are talking about the arcade operation here in this thread, that was separate from the programming staff for the consoles. This would have been about 1974, so probably arcade stuff. As a matter of

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > Douglas Adams was instrumental in a few games. > But, somebody once asked him what he most liked to play with on his Mac. He > said The Desktop. It's like "Hunt the Wumpus" but with no Wumpus... -ethan

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On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: > Actually a lot of late 70's and early 80's computers were bought by a lot of > ham radio guys for their setups. > > The only people I knew in the late 70's or early 80's doing "Business" things > at home with personal computers were doing word

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On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 2:21 PM, jim stephens wrote: > One thing you got on the 2600, was almost nothing to do your programming on. > There was the rom with lots of code space, but there was I think either 256 > or 512 bytes of ram total, and 1/2 of it was owned by the "system" such as > it was.

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On 10/10/2016 01:21 PM, jim stephens wrote: > If you are talking about the arcade operation here in this thread, > that was separate from the programming staff for the consoles. This would have been about 1974, so probably arcade stuff. As a matter of fact, I recall the job adverts from Atari i

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On 10/10/2016 1:03 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 10/10/2016 11:32 AM, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote: Apologies for saying this, but it almost sounds like to me that you are validating their "no mainframe programmers wanted" stance. ;) Not really--it seems to me that a great deal of early work with mic

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On 10/10/2016 11:32 AM, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote: > Apologies for saying this, but it almost sounds like to me that you > are validating their "no mainframe programmers wanted" stance. ;) Not really--it seems to me that a great deal of early work with microprocessors was successfully done by mainf

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Mouse wrote: > To a point, perhaps. But some of the old games were just _good_. My > own favourite is Tempest, one of the few colour vector games. 24 > _kilo_bytes for the entire game, and it's still one of the most > engaging games I've ever played. > Ooh! Me

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On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 10/08/2016 06:13 PM, TeoZ wrote: > > > > Everybody has something they do to chill out, some drink or jog, or > > play games. > > Certainly, but playing computer games after a hard day in front of the > number-cruncher seems like a terrible w

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Brad H wrote: > > > Original message > From: "Ian S. King" > Date: 2016-10-09 5:08 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subje

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On Oct 9, 2016 12:37 PM, "Fred Cisin" wrote: > Douglas Adams was instrumental in a few games. > But, somebody once asked him what he most liked to play with on his Mac. He said The Desktop. My favorite computer game is the C compiler. Granted, the scoring is rather subjective.

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Original message From: "Ian S. King" Date: 2016-10-09 5:08 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Brad H wrote: > > > Ori

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ian S. King wrote: > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Brad H bettercomputing.net> > wrote: > > So far I've been using a cross-assembler that runs on a > different system - for example, the original UNIX was cross-assembled on a > GE-635 mainframe for its PDP-7 ta

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On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Brad H wrote: > > > Original message > From: "Ian S. King" > Date: 2016-10-09 2:30 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > Subje

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Original message From: "Ian S. King" Date: 2016-10-09 2:30 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 2:37 AM, Dave G4UGM wrote: > > -Orig

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s.com > > Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] > > > > > > > > I'd like to learn more about programming, esp for my 6800. It'd be fun > to test > > its limits and see what uses I can find for the graphics board I got. I > just don&#

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>> Still don't. Playing a computer game is about as entertaining to me >> as putting my money into an online slot machine. > Find better games :) Heh. Not everybody thinks the same way, and some people just don't react to games the way you (or I) do. > The theme of this list means that I should

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> Douglas Adams was instrumental in a few games. > But, somebody once asked him what he most liked to play with on his Mac. > He said The Desktop. I was once asked 'What do you watch on TV?' I replied without thinking 'The final anode voltage' -tony

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> Find better games :) Nope, not even. Has as much appeal as base jumping. I'd rather be On Sun, 9 Oct 2016, tony duell wrote: I think I'm with you on this one. The only computer games I find even Douglas Adams was instrumental in a few games. But, somebody once asked him what he most liked

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no real interest in playing games though the curiously ofseeing star trek game on friends Digital Group Computer ( had little screen in the front of it... I want one for SMECC display working or not) group and getting a baudot teletype model 14 lead to me starting a compute

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. Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: et...@757.org Date: 2016-10-09 8:46 AM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Cc: gene...@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] >>>  Just like the ca

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> > Find better games :) > > Nope, not even. Has as much appeal as base jumping. I'd rather be I think I'm with you on this one. The only computer games I find even mildly interesting are ones that involve thought and/or hackery to complete. I found the HP67 Games Pac (A set of programs for a

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Just like the car collecting, comic book collection and just about most other hobbies when they mature. The same type of people who The comic book market crashed due to the flipping side of it as far as I know. When it changes from a hobby to a speculative mania, I suppose that is when thing

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On 10/09/2016 01:58 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: > On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 04:20:55PM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote: [...] >> Still don't. Playing a computer game is about as entertaining to me >> as putting my money into an online slot machine. > > Find better games :) Nope, not even. Has as much appeal

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On Mon, Oct 03, 2016 at 08:28:50AM -0700, Ali wrote: [Amiga 3000s] >> I'm not surprised that someone would _ask_ EUR800, but are they *getting* >> it? They relisted it at EUR720 and now again for EUR695, so I assume that they would accept at EUR650 offer. I had made a EUR500 offer last time, maybe

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> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brad H > Sent: 09 October 2016 07:41 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > ; jwsm...@jwsss.com > Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] > > > >

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On 10/9/2016 1:58 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: Playing a computer game is about as entertaining to me as >putting my money into an online slot machine. Find better games I'm more interested in the technology of the implementing games, and the coming VR that might be interesting. Remote reality is

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On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 04:20:55PM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote: [...] > Still don't. Playing a computer game is about as entertaining to me as > putting my money into an online slot machine. Find better games :) The theme of this list means that I should recommend some retro games and gaming systems

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Samsung device Original message From: william degnan Date: 2016-10-08 8:54 PM (GMT-08:00) To: jwsm...@jwsss.com, "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] To me, getting old computers up and running, or programming on them

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On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 8:54 PM, william degnan wrote: > To me, getting old computers up and running, or programming on them *is* > the game as far as I am concerned. More fun than most packaged software > games. I have made my own games, and I certainly play computer games, but > that's not why

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To me, getting old computers up and running, or programming on them *is* the game as far as I am concerned. More fun than most packaged software games. I have made my own games, and I certainly play computer games, but that's not why I am interested in vintage computing. I just spent a few hours

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On 10/8/2016 8:26 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: So computers were not part of my formative years and that's perhaps why I don't see the attraction of computer games--or Twitter, for that matter. I had the luck to have an Olivetti Programma 101 when I was in 5th grade in the early 60's. I had learned

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On 10/08/2016 07:00 PM, Brad H wrote: > When I was a kid we had the IBM PCjr through PS/2. Concurrently I > had my own Commodore 64. Up until we got our AT, the Commodore was > the game machine. I suspect that you might have put your finger on the nub of it all. I did not have any familiarit

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Original message From: Chuck Guzis Date: 2016-10-08 2:17 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] On 10/08/2016 09:46 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > I think the people who complain a

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On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 10/08/2016 06:13 PM, TeoZ wrote: > > > > Everybody has something they do to chill out, some drink or jog, or > > play games. > > Certainly, but playing computer games after a hard day in front of the > number-cruncher seems like a terrible w

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On 10/08/2016 06:13 PM, TeoZ wrote: > > Everybody has something they do to chill out, some drink or jog, or > play games. Certainly, but playing computer games after a hard day in front of the number-cruncher seems like a terrible way to detox. For some years, for me, it was bicycling and bridge

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gaming reasons. -Original Message- From: Chuck Guzis Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2016 7:20 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] That's probably why I'm borderline loony in my old age--I never bothered to detox.

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On 10/08/2016 03:13 PM, Corey Cohen wrote: > Games have always been part of detoxing after a long day of business > on personal computers. That's probably why I'm borderline loony in my old age--I never bothered to detox. Still don't. Playing a computer game is about as entertaining to me as pu

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corey cohen uǝɥoɔ ʎǝɹoɔ > On Oct 8, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> On 10/08/2016 09:46 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: >> >> I think the people who complain about "Altairs just sitting on >> desks" might be doing so for at least one reason being because a >> particular purpose seems t

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On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 9:07 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > > > On 10/8/2016 6:06 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: > >> ... >> >> So does this mean you should hoard everything you have until the price >> goes up? I don't have a crystal ball to tell you what is the next item of >> value. Who knew that a mov

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> After we're all gone, what will future generations think of us? That we > developed new hardware and software solely to play games? > > Wow. In a word: yes. I am being a bit tongue in cheek when I say that but not entirely. Initially this may not have been true - i.e. in the 80s people upgrade

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On 10/8/16 2:17 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > After we're all gone, what will future generations think of us? That we > developed new hardware and software solely to play games? > Probably, given how many cycles are being given to saving every copy-protected Apple II game, compared to a couple guys

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On 10/08/2016 09:46 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > I think the people who complain about "Altairs just sitting on > desks" might be doing so for at least one reason being because a > particular purpose seems to violate the original spirit, intent, and > purpose behind the creation. I hear that a l

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Right on... The most important thing is IS THE OBJECT BEING SAVED? Even if you restore something today it will be crap in another 50 years If you do not restore it now it will run like crap too. SO... in 50 years both are equal.. they will both run like crap no matter if resto

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On 2016-10-08 07:06, Corey Cohen wrote: So does this mean you should hoard everything you have until the price goes up? The expression I used is "Wait until what every wife calls 'A basement full of junk' becomes AliBaba's treasure cave." -- Roberto Waltman

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> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:46 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: > > > > On 10/8/2016 11:22 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: >>> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:07 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: >>> >>> >>> The fact that a friggin' *movie* raises the value of something, also really >>> irks me. How did movies ever be

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On 10/8/2016 11:22 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:07 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: The fact that a friggin' *movie* raises the value of something, also really irks me. How did movies ever become the be-all, end-all? I'm sure others are irked as well by the intrusions of gree

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> On Oct 8, 2016, at 12:07 PM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote: > > >> > > The fact that a friggin' *movie* raises the value of something, also really > irks me. How did movies ever become the be-all, end-all? > > I'm sure others are irked as well by the intrusions of greed or irrationality > in

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On 10/8/2016 6:06 AM, Corey Cohen wrote: ... So does this mean you should hoard everything you have until the price goes up? I don't have a crystal ball to tell you what is the next item of value. Who knew that a movie about the Tucker automobile would make a Tucker one of the most desira

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> > > > This goes quintuply for an original GTO, at $50M. One could do all sorts of > amazing things with that much money. Is having an original _really_ worth > as > much (or more) than all those other things? Like I said, a certain level of > irrationality. > > Noel > Save your money y

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> From: Fred Cisin >> Did you tell the dumpsterers that they'd thrown out stuff worth >> thousands of dollars? (I would have made to sure to let them know >> that, with great spite.) > "So? Boss said throw out everything in the closets. ..." Clearly, the Indians weren't to b

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Been following this thread a bit a realized it's time to chime in. The Mustang analogy is a good one. This hobby is becoming like collecting cars. You really can't predict which stuff is going to be worth big money but the stuff that does always surprises the guys who owned one back in the da

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Original message From: Brent Hilpert Date: 2016-10-07 8:46 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] On 2016-Oct-07, at 5:17 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> On 10/7/2016 5:21 PM, C

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On 2016-Oct-07, at 5:17 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: >> On 10/7/2016 5:21 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > >> That simply defies logic. I *really* don't get this collecting business. > > It's Apple-related. Some Apple devotees seem to have an, ah, excessive > attachment to things Apple. (Q.v. $1M Apple I's.

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90 mm f 2 summacron was a great lens! wish I had one back for our M2. In a message dated 10/7/2016 7:15:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ci...@xenosoft.com writes: On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > Leicas dumpstered?OMG !? > oh the humanity!!! Indeed! M2 AND

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On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: Did you tell the dumpsterers that they'd thrown out stuff worth thousands of dollars? (I would have made to sure to let them know that, with great spite.) And if so, what did they say? "So? Boss said throw out everything in the closets. We don't open th

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> From: Fred Cisin > I found 2 cases that the dumpsterers missed ... I did a quick sale of > the Tele-Elmarit for $1000 Did you tell the dumpsterers that they'd thrown out stuff worth thousands of dollars? (I would have made to sure to let them know that, with great spite.) And if so

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On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: Well, as we all know, Apple invented the personal computer--and probably the microprocessor... I hear that there is "prior art" for transistors!

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On 10/07/2016 05:12 PM, Al Kossow wrote: ouch! this is about 2x what I thought they would go for On 10/1/16 7:19 AM, Al Kossow wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291894250804 Groan! I've been collecting the WRONG stuff! Jon

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On Fri, 7 Oct 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: Leicas dumpstered? OMG !? oh the humanity!!! Indeed! M2 AND M3, with marvelous lenses. CHead had promised me the Summicrons, which I have always dreamed of having. I found 2 cases that the dumpsterers missed, containing a mint 2-1/4x3-1

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: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: Twiggys [was: Re: ka... ching!] On 10/07/2016 04:41 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > > On 10/7/16 4:32 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: >> >> >> how astonishingly retarded that they sold for that much. > > nah.. maybe Alan

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On 10/1/2016 5:52 PM, Santo Nucifora wrote: For those who are bidding on the twiggy drives, you can have a Lisa 1 faceplate here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/62204758 and a matching Lisa 1 mouse here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/172360487433 These are a little on the expensive side too :)

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Not sure...I just was saying he wasn't that far off what people will pay based on the eBay action of he twiggys at 20.6k. Drives that are unverified at that. On Friday, October 7, 2016, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > > > On 10/7/2016 7:38 PM, Kevin Griffin wrote: > >> This guy was spot on about if h

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On 10/7/2016 7:38 PM, Kevin Griffin wrote: This guy was spot on about if his Lisa1 had Twiggys http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/sys/5797104896.html Kevin How does this SF guy so confidently know --> $30k plus?Is there a place where these Lisas regularly sell for that? - J.

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