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request for comments, since you have asked not to be given small or even
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tors).
Starting new track at sector: 159818
Track 14: 44 of 44 MB written (fifo 9%) [buf 33%] 19.4x.
Track 14: Total bytes read/written: 46896528/46896528 (19939 sectors).
Writing time: 146.791s
Average write speed 16.9x.
Min drive buffer fill was 16%
Fixating...
Fixating time: 26.207s
cdrecor
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I did try it recently with creating a SchilliX ISO image (~ 2 files
700 MB) and it did not help.
Did you do the test on a machine with limited memory? I may have asked
this before, but I don't see a r
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But now I see where you like to use O_DIRECT.
If you use O_DIRECT for writing, it makes sense and in the same case
it makes sense to use directio(fd, DIRECTIO_ON); on Solaris.
By not buffering the output of m
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It seems that you missd the fact that it has been introduced 2 weeks before
cdrtools-2.01-final came out and people on LKML did complain that I did not
cause cdrtools to become unstable from introducing unteste
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It seems that you missd the fact that it has been introduced 2 weeks before
cdrtools-2.01-final came out and people on LKML did complain that I did not
cause cdrtools to become unstable from introducing unteste
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Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Filtering SCSI commands was an unannounced change of the interface
that needs to be called a bug. I still do not see any fix for this.
Unannounced? It was in LKML, it was in the changelog, it was discussed
in mu
tar, that's an interesting
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
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I have the impression that you are using Linux and Linux definitely
does not fall into this category (since ~ 2001, no SCSI bug I am aware of has
been fixed in Linux). In case of unknown problems, it makes sense to
is causing this.
Tried several FC4 kernels and teh 2.6.15.1 I was running before, same
behaviour.
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se to change
things in order to find the reason.
Then you should go back and read your own postings! The bug allowing
unfiltered SCSI commands to devices was fixed and you complained about
it for two years. You were very aware of it.
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"-rawXXX" descriptions. A commercial quality CD duplicator is more
complex than it sounds. On the other hand if you only need to do a few
common formats, it's practical with decent hardware for reader and burner.
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Matthias Andree wrote:
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This sounds a bit confused. Are you able to describe your concern?
You said star doesn't run as fast on Linux as Solaris, you can probably
fix that
:-(
On a side note it should also be noted that in particular Linux
requirements for alignment are not really reasonable. Minimal
alignment required by DMA controller, cache line size to be specific,
should suffice, but they've chosen to insist on block or sector
alignment. A.
x in a more modern burner, but my newest D/L unit
is powered down for a drive install, so I am not motivated to test more
tonight.
growisofs 6.0 works fine for me here, with cheap or HP DVD-R, and with
LITEON LDW-451S unit, although dvd+rw-mediainfo can't give me info on
the liteon (2.6.1
ge if only to be sure the program KNOWS it's wedged.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
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From reading your last mail, it seems that you seem to be a novice.
Let me give you the advise that it helps a lot to shorten quotings
in order to get accepted by knowledgeable people.
I did not test O_DIRECT bec
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Even for Open Source, there is an Author or a group of authors.
The version that comes from the Copyrightholder is the official one.
In this case there is no such official one, the "official" growisof
cess to machines where newer versions are installed.
Did you ever wonder why no one provides access?
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tools. There is no directory /usr/src/linux on most systems, it's only
used for kernel development. You are counting on something which has not
been commonly present for a decade.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
O_DIRECT is no standard and it seems that it is just a reimplementation of the
very old DG/UX idea of O_DG_UNBUFFERED.
The idea of doing unbuffered i/o is hardly that young, I believe you
will trace it b
the
technology. Symtpoms of alzheimer's include inability to adapt to change
and being argumentative. Time to find a version of the tools which are
maintained to work as things are, rather than as someone would like them
to be. Thanks for the work you did in your prime.
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AFAIK that's correct, but you did not and should not claim "promptly"
there, another reason why vendor versions are used by many.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Be careful: Debian publishes a bastardized version of cdrtools.
Most problems go away once you convert to the official programs.
There seems to be no open source "official program."
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I was thinking that a simple wrapper to open() which adds
O_DIRECT might be sufficient, but it turned out that this
alone is not sufficient: the buffers used by the programs
must have a certain alignment. This
bian publishes a bastardized version of cdrtools.
Most problems go away once you convert to the official programs.
There seems to be no open source "official program."
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into any critical tool which wasn't
"really free" in case the author got hit by a bus, or a float in that
interesting parade Joerg showed a few years ago.
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main benefit was to have less impact on
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would not be significant now.
I'm still riddling.
What effect did change the shape of our input functions ?
You have my thoughts, I have a limited number of tests to support my
conclusions, feel free to present data supporting a better (more easily
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program with most of the options one could want. If anyone feels that
would be useful I'll put it up on the web site. I use it when sending
things through an ssh connection to write remote, it's pretty well
tested on 2.4 and 2.6 Linux kernels
Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
Johann Schwarz wrote:
Hello!
I have risky news for you!
Look at: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=152583
and then: http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html#SOHW-1693S
What do you think?
Johann: I value my
firmware would render the drive incapable of
reflashing back to the vendor firmware I wouldn't worry overly about
that. I agree you don't want to ignore the issue, but vendors expect you
to reflash, so in itself that wouldn't void the waranty.
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ions any way you want, use non-standard
sectors size, do error correction in software, any stupid thing except
whine about something you get for free and which has an option to do
what you want if you would read frigging manual!
You won't make a patch, you can't even configure your ma
s the "official" solution is not
helping, you put in support but added silly warning messages. And you
might as well release the DVD code, every distro has some version of
the capability, some are really hald-assed and give cdrecord a bad
name. You've lost the battle, grow up a
disk several times a week (not my choice of hardware, clearly). If I
burn from the network I do use burnfree, but I don't burn critical stuff
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The fixes to get bad firmware
working are HARD, and Joerg does them right if possible. I'd like a
single version, but not if it comes from someone who isn't tracking the
guts of the official cdrecord.
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adapt his software to changes in Linux. I did not
encounter any problems using it after changing to udev which will
probably save you a lot of Linux problem reports.
I don't understand. Are there problems with cdrecord & Linux that are related
to udev?
I think the opposite, things wo
et's see, it told you to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you sent it here,
and I bet you didn't do the dev=help or you would have gotten your
answer. Or you didn't read the ATAPI.setup doc, not clear.
cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus
cdrecord dev=ATAPI: -scanbus
Wonderful thing reading...
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EOF on one or the other input streams. The fact that there is an error
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ch file is bad" check.
DVDs do age and develop problems, it's nice to be able to identify them
and a finer level than "this DVD went bad."
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Joerg has explained this in some detail, as have several of us, you must
read back what you write, no more no less, then the check will be
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isofs and i will borrow
from friends other mediums to test carefully.
I think the firmware upgrade is the most likely reason this is working.
I don't see why a 486 version would give problems on a 686 system,
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devices not using DMA, or not allowing interrupts during i/o. Either of
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t look at the status, run the
script and let it fail, then check the speed of the device again to see
if it did change.
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help.
isoinfo will tell you the size of the ISO filesystem, and if dvd+rw is
like cdrecord it has an option to give that information as well.
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w that you know what it "really is," did you check that you have the
current firmware? I'd check both ASUS and Pioneer on that, they may or
may not be different.
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I'm at about 300 miles up the river.
Too far a shopping tour, indeed.
(Now the americans laugh at us. :))
The difference between the USA and England is that the British think 100
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an quickly test.
Thanks for all the data!
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my home systems however this may be too slow.
Any thoughts as to what I am doing wrong here?
Is all the time system? Does hdparm show the drive as DMA enabled? If it
is running uning PIO it will take a great deal of CPU.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have been reading the dvd+rw-tools FAQ and I have found this in
there:
===
Version 5.6 adds support for Solaris 2.x [commercial licensing terms
for distribution on Solaris are to be settled with Inserve
Tech
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are pretty rare with recent
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Apologies, an entire sentence was deleted from the above by finger
check. The issue raised is that star backups are not bootable on any
machine I've found, and are unsuitable for "system backups&q
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Unless you have the luxury of taking the system to single user mode, it
is always possible that you should have a file change.
Yep. The backup should be done in situations where
changes either don't occur or don't matt
Bill Davidsen wrote:
I would have
loved to have star 15 years ago. I wouldn't use any
solution today which required reading the whole data set to extract
things, was not portable, and which is not cost effective in terms of
timeto recovery. Star represents the best implementation ever wr
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Hi,
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Since I never get an error I would suspect that the change is not
detected, the only question is if the data saved is only that which was
originally expected, or all available.
To my theory the effect should occur
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would need to rethink the problem.
Here's a thought on that, if the read length is not the same as the
expected length, the error is really "file size changed during read" and
the current len
nd readability of
the source code fall somewhere between alpha and none :-(
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should not be a fatal error, since mkisofs is used on live data and
should be robust in practice.
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e dvd-compat option,
only for the last session ? right ?
If this is data and not DVD for media play you just don't need it. At
least I haven't used it and I do incremental backups to DVD on a regular
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hat fifo trick will help, or Joerg would have
mentioned it, but worth trying.
Keep in mind your firmware may just not like this brand of media, as
evidenced by the same behaviour under that other o/s. But it shouldn't hang.
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ahead= 256 (on)
geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 80026361856, start = 0
hdparm /dev/hdb
/dev/hdb:
IO_support = 1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq= 1 (on)
using_dma= 1 (on)
keepsettings = 1 (on)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead= 256 (on)
HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
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The only thing which comes to mind on that is that the directory
structure might still be in memory. Seems unlikely, but there's no
reason why it should work only until eject. If you force a read of all
ll readable? And did you try
manually setting the f/s type in the mount?
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d on. I believe Alan Cox has it
fixed in the -ac kernels, but don't quote me. I'll try it if I have time
to try the new kernels this weekend.
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still goes through the kernel buffer pool.
Do i recall you have to use magic buffer sizes and seek positioning? On
sector or block boundaries? I used this, but looong ago, and haven't in
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d on BSD, developed on a VAX (from memory), while Solaris is sort-of
based on SysVR3, while I think was avtually developed on either a VAX or
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most cases.
Still unhappy with cpio? I usually use "-oB -Hcrc" to get by-file CRC
checking.
I know about star, but cpio is more likely to be on the other end if I'm
sending to offsite users.
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first and then burning? Or ar you
already doing that?
Does anyone have any idea how to get the thing writing at 8x ?
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> Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't believe that drive does read after write, if that were the case
> > bad media would explain it. Possible, but this media, which very
> > inexpensive, has been
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>
> > Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > > Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I'
s (OK, I have only
tried it on two DVD, one worked and the other, I can't mount it)...
Get the length of the filesystem with isoinfo or similar, copy the data
to disk as an ISO image, using sdd, readcd, or similar, then burn a copy.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd like to think this was a media error, but the "no error" seems to
RTFM man cdrecord to understand what
this means.
indicate otherwise. This is a regular backup, I
I'd like to think this was a media error, but the "no error" seems to
indicate otherwise. This is a regular backup, I do one of my working home
firectories, then some other stuff in other sessions. The data for this
burn is <300MB, and worked with another CD of the same brand.
iccarus:root> add
ent kernel (currently
2.6.11).
1 - set the group of the burner to dvd (or any other unique name)
2 - set the permissions for the group to rw (chmod g+rw /dev/dvd)
3 - make everyone who should burn a member of the group
4 - don't use ide-scsi with recent 2.6 kernels
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> Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I suspect the trick is that the data needs to be in a directory called
> > VIDEO_TS, but I won't get a chance to try until next weekend.
>
> I added the followin
with some applications. Your original post had a trailing / on the command.
I suspect the trick is that the data needs to be in a directory called
VIDEO_TS, but I won't get a chance to try until next weekend.
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the commandline
% growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -dvd-video dvd/VIDEO_TS
which I now found out to be wrong (at least with current versions of
mkisofs).
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provided that states the support code is
missing. And that cdrecord-ProDVD is needed.
It recognises and emits a pointer, guess that's "support" here. Wish it
did support DVD, I have a boatload of tools to use cdrecord.
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[snip]
That's easy, speed=4 doesn't mean 4x, it means the 4th supported speed
in the list of capabilities. So:
...
Yes, I had found that out from other posts on the list. My
"cryptic" aside was just
Joerg Schilling wrote:
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Go Red! :^) ...and thanks for the reply. I have found that the
-speed=1 causes a working 4x burn, (while -speed=4 cryptically
causes a 6x attempted burn with failure.) I suppose I will just
have to live with 4x for a wh
Peter F. Curran wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005, Bill Davidsen wrote:
-dmesg for the drive --
hda: attached ide-scsi driver.
I think that's the answer. The 2.4 kernel won't do DMA in some modes
using ide-scsi. The easy test is to try a l
on. Hopefully
it won't repeat last night. unless you're at the top of section 17 you
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he 2.6 kernel, assume the burner is
on /dev/hdc:
- no command line options
- hdc=ide-scsi
- hdc=scsi
I'm not sure that the 1st and 3rd are identical in behaviour, and I'm
not at a good place to reboot right now to see. I hope to try this in
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e: invisible incremental
Track Start Address: 0*2KB
Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
Free Blocks: 2297888*2KB
Track Size:2297888*2KB
READ CAPACITY: 1*2048=2048
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ing as a normal user, regardless of permissions on the
drive. This is deliberate and makes multi-session a problem.
Short answer, use the /dev/hdX name, it works better. You can make the
device owned by a group, like burnCD, make yourself a member, and give
group RW on the device. That makes burn
ll get a Mac.
I doubt that this is a problem with cheap hardware, but if the firmware
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Not unless you bought a computer to write CDs. You can like it or hate
> > it, but people are switching to Linux more than any other O/S. Note I
> > said switching, no
phs I got a private flame
saying I took things out of context, and now you are unhappy because I
didn't. If a question is over five lines long I'll answer the author
directly. Since well over half this list is spam, unfiltered, I'm really
tired of getting BS about on-topic posts.
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multisession recording of nonrewritable
media. UDF may allow for a "growudffs" approach, but I doubt if ext2 can.
Sure, make a big empty file, do a mke2fs, making the block size 4k,
then mount it. Copy anything you want to it, and unmount it. Now burn it
to a CD (or DVD). Easy as tha
better than VHS, and the world chose the lower
technology.
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I don't see any obvious result when burnfree is on.
Feel free to to show why errors in user data would occur, other than bad
firmware, of course.
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r answer.
I embed a file in the data with the md5sum of the other files, so I can
identify an individual bad file if I have one, and so I can do
multisession easily. So I have "contents-sesNN.md5" files, one per
session.
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Seth Kurtzberg wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> > Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
> >
> >>> If I burn with 2.4x instead of 4x, there seems to be no problem. I
> >>> wonder what this could mean.
> >>>
> >>
> &g
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