[CentOS] called a spammer today

2012-04-02 Thread Bob Hoffman
thought you would find this interesting... I get a LOT of political spam on one of my mails due to hosting a political site once. I have been slowly blacklisting the bulk companies and 'the net' of private people pushing political spam. There is one guy who has been sending me stuff for years a

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 09:59 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Peter Eckel wrote: >> > When there really is a requirement that the external server allows >> only a single address to access it and that can't b

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 11:11 -0400, Stephen Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 04:39:17PM +0200, Peter Eckel wrote: > > network. Security-wise there is no difference as you'll never get smaller > > allocations than /64 per site anyway, so what with respect to filterin > *gigglefit > One of my p

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 09:59 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Peter Eckel wrote: > > When there really is a requirement that the external server allows > only a single address to access it and that can't be changed, you > could resort to using a proxy. > What is typical

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6.2 vs 6.0

2012-04-02 Thread William Hooper
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Boris Epstein wrote: > Hello listamates, > > Has anyone tried 6.2? How good is it? Should I specifically download it to > install on a new server I am configuring - or is 6.0 good enough in your > opinion? CentOS 6.2 is just a CentOS 6.0 install with all the update

[CentOS] CentOS 6.2 vs 6.0

2012-04-02 Thread Boris Epstein
Hello listamates, Has anyone tried 6.2? How good is it? Should I specifically download it to install on a new server I am configuring - or is 6.0 good enough in your opinion? Thanks. Boris. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.

Re: [CentOS] centos 6.2 netinstall does not offer "create custom layout" at "Select type of installation " in text mode installation

2012-04-02 Thread John Stanley
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 10:43 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Saturday, March 31, 2012 06:29:49 PM John Stanley wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 12:38 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 06:29:12 AM Karanbir Singh wrote: > > > > you can still run a vnc install from the netinstal

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, April 02, 2012 11:27:54 AM John Doe wrote: >> ...self-compiled... > > As Jamie Hyneman would say, "well, there's your problem." Isn't most of the point of running servers to provide a unique service? -- Les Mikesell lesmike

Re: [CentOS] NFS Hanging Under Heavy Load

2012-04-02 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 01:33:10PM -0700, Aaron Blew wrote: > UPDATE > > I rolled a new kernel that's identical to the stock CentOS 2.6.32-220.el6 > kernel with the exception of the new idmapper being enabled. Unfortunately > there's been no improvement. > > Did you get a chance to try the RHEL

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Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread m . roth
Ned Slider wrote: > On 02/04/12 15:10, Lamar Owen wrote: >> On Monday, April 02, 2012 08:51:46 AM Les Mikesell wrote: >>> Another statistic I'd like to see is how much admin time this costs on >>> the average to learn and implement. >> >> No more than proper firewalling techniques cost, really. >>

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Eckel
Hi Les (sorry for calling you 'Lee' before), > What is typical or reasonable for source address restrictions? That > is, if there are 2 global organizations, and one wants to increase > the security on access to a service by limiting to the source > addresses that might come from the other, is th

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 02, 2012 10:34:58 AM Les Mikesell wrote: > So at least another grumpy, overworked full-time administrator for a > typical company? Perhaps. It depends upon how willing the existing admins are to learn something new, and on how overworked they are. I'm as overworked as anyone; i

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 02, 2012 11:27:54 AM John Doe wrote: > ...self-compiled... As Jamie Hyneman would say, "well, there's your problem." Having said that, I run Plone on a few sites, and the only way to run Plone reliably on CentOS is to use the Plone-distributed unified installer, which compiles

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 02, 2012 11:11:29 AM Stephen Harris wrote: > One of my providers gave me a single(!) IPv6 address. Another one has > subdivided a /64 into multiple /96's (one for each customer). > > You might want to rethink the /64 concept! Subscribe to the NANOG list, and let that group know

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 05:30:57PM +0200, Peter Eckel wrote: > Hi Stephen, > > Another one has subdivided a /64 into multiple /96's (one for each > > customer). > > Yuck. That doesn't make sense at all. > > SLAAC won't work, Privacy Extensions won't work ... you're stuck with static > addres

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Ned Slider
On 02/04/12 15:10, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, April 02, 2012 08:51:46 AM Les Mikesell wrote: >> Another statistic I'd like to see is how much admin time this costs on >> the average to learn and implement. > > No more than proper firewalling techniques cost, really. > >> Has anyone really measu

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Eckel
Hi Stephen, > *gigglefit* > > One of my providers gave me a single(!) IPv6 address. Actually that's at least something the IETF has thought of ... if it is certain that one and only one device will be connected. I'm not actually sure what use case there is for such a connection, but at least

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread John Doe
From: Lamar Owen > On Monday, April 02, 2012 08:51:46 AM Les Mikesell wrote: >> Another statistic I'd like to see is how much admin time this costs on >> the average to learn and implement.  > No more than proper firewalling techniques cost, really. Depends... Takes me 1mn to open a www port

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Stephen Harris
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 04:39:17PM +0200, Peter Eckel wrote: > network. Security-wise there is no difference as you'll never get smaller > allocations than /64 per site anyway, so what with respect to filtering *gigglefit* One of my providers gave me a single(!) IPv6 address. Another one has su

Re: [CentOS] Centos6 iptables startup vs. restart?

2012-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2012/3/30 Les Mikesell : >> What is different about the initial startup of iptables than 'service >> iptables restart'  (and different from C5)?   I want to use iptables >> port redirection to send port 80 to 8080 so a java web service doesn

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Peter Eckel wrote: > >> So what does that mean for a client application (http/ftp,etc.) where >> you might have local firewalls permitting things for internal-subnet >> source ranges but you also have external targets that only accept >> pre-configured static source

Re: [CentOS] centos 6.2 netinstall does not offer "create custom layout" at "Select type of installation " in text mode installation

2012-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, March 31, 2012 06:29:49 PM John Stanley wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 12:38 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 06:29:12 AM Karanbir Singh wrote: > > > you can still run a vnc install from the netinstall emdia and get the > > > complete installer going. > > > >

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Eckel
Hi Lee, > So what does that mean for a client application (http/ftp,etc.) where > you might have local firewalls permitting things for internal-subnet > source ranges but you also have external targets that only accept > pre-configured static sources? Are you referring to the situation where you

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, April 02, 2012 08:51:46 AM Les Mikesell wrote: >> Another statistic I'd like to see is how much admin time this costs on >> the average to learn and implement. > > No more than proper firewalling techniques cost, really. > So at least

Re: [CentOS] Grails 1.3.x (S)RPM for CentOS 6?

2012-04-02 Thread Patrick Lists
On 04/02/2012 01:59 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > On 03/15/2012 02:13 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: >> Hi, >> >> My Google foo came up empty. Does anyone know where I can find a Grails >> 1.3.x (S)RPM? >>> > I do not see any rpm past history of once existing 1.0.4 version back in > 2008. Thanks Lju

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, April 02, 2012 08:51:46 AM Les Mikesell wrote: > Another statistic I'd like to see is how much admin time this costs on > the average to learn and implement. No more than proper firewalling techniques cost, really. > Has anyone really measured this? Probably not. > Are there tra

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: > On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> >>>     Just wondering if there is any statiscs report of selinxu usages in >>> production environment? I know some still turn it off. >> >> If you have machines purposely serving things to the masses on the >> Internet

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>     Just wondering if there is any statiscs report of selinxu usages in >> production environment? I know some still turn it off. > > If you have machines purposely serving things to the masses on the > Internet, you should take the time t

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Peter Eckel wrote: > > Routing tables won't do much for you when you have several different IP > addresses (stateless autocnfigured, privacy extension and static) within the > same network on the same physical interface - they'll all use the same route. > The lon

Re: [CentOS] Grails 1.3.x (S)RPM for CentOS 6?

2012-04-02 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 03/15/2012 02:13 PM, Patrick Lists wrote: > Hi, > > My Google foo came up empty. Does anyone know where I can find a Grails > 1.3.x (S)RPM? > I do not see any rpm past history of once existing 1.0.4 version back in 2008. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Eur

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Eckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, > Typically the routing table does a lot of work. Much like 127.0.0.0/8 > the mask of a link-local will make it unprefered by 'public' traffic. > There is also a syntax for specifying the outbound interface for > traffic. Routing tables w

Re: [CentOS] selinux on/off percentage

2012-04-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 03/31/2012 10:31 PM, Min Wang wrote: > hi > > Just wondering if there is any statiscs report of selinxu usages in > production environment? I know some still turn it off. If you have machines purposely serving things to the masses on the Internet, you should take the time to make SELinux w

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Eckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, > You can explicitly turn in off on every type of client. Then wait till > you want to do it. agreed. The problem is that you can, and you actually *must* do it. Doing nothing leaves v6 on by default on most modern operating systems. >

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Peter Eckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Adam, > Or you assign the rule to the interface, rather than the address. > Nothing new, that is how firewalls work on DHCP clients today. that will be pretty difficult on the perimeter router ... Best regards, Peter. -BEGIN PGP SIGNAT

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 16:38 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Peter Eckel wrote: > > 1. Each interface on an IPv6 enabled machine has several addresses. > > 2. Except for the Privacy Extension address(es), auto-configured a > How do applications choose the correct outbo

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 15:06 +0200, Peter Eckel wrote: > Hi Adam, > > And recent computer or distributions is sitting their quietly waiting > > for it's IPv6 address to arrive - probably automatically, via auto > > discovery. Clients are trivial. > ... and that is EXACTLY the biggest problem with

Re: [CentOS] transition to ip6

2012-04-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 19:52 +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote: > Am 31.03.2012 17:37, schrieb Les Mikesell: > > On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Peter Eckel wrote: > >> So, before you do anything else, set up proper incoming and outgoing IPv6 > >> port filtering rules on your perimeter routers. It will

Re: [CentOS] SPF Setup CentOS 6.3 x86_64

2012-04-02 Thread Prabhpal S. Mavi
Dear Natraj, Thank you very much for your response, this is really greate solution and I did not know about it. Very good stuff indeed. I love it. Thanks Natraj, for your greate advice. Prabhpal > On 04/01/2012 09:06 AM, Prabhpal S. Mavi wrote: >> Dear Friends Greetings, >> >> i wish to setup SPF