Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:03 PM -0700 John Pierce wrote: Problem with rsync clones, they are asynchronous each file is copied separately so if the system is live and making changes, for instance a database server, the copy is not coherent. If you use LVM (CentOS default), you

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 5:31 PM + Xinhuan Zheng wrote: I'm having trouble to handle installing bootloader and creating initramfs for C7 system. Does anyone know a good document source that details those procedure? This hasn't been addressed yet. After restoring the partition

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Robert Nichols
On 9/25/19 1:46 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Robert Nichols said: the lack of VM snapshot capability is a total deal-breaker for me. The capability is still there and works just the same as before. The only change is that the new preferred tool for graphical VM management,

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Earl Ramirez
> > If you want it ... package and build it when building on 8 becomes > available via CBS to SIGs. Should be early next week. With the new initiative CentOS and Fedora Stream, wouldn't it be easier collaborate with Fedora SIGs to bring an updated version of Mate to CentOS > and build whatever

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 04:31:06PM +, Xinhuan Zheng wrote: > I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and > restore a CentOS 7 system. I usually use dump/restore > commands. However, I’m having trouble to handle installing > bootloader and creating initramfs for C7 system.

Re: [CentOS] USB thumb drive for CentOS 7.7 to install

2019-09-25 Thread Jerry Geis
Looks like my file was corrupt on the USB disk. Not sure how that happened. I removed the file then I just copied the file from the Everything iso image again and working now. Jerry On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 2:46 PM Jerry Geis wrote: > I took the "everything" iso and did the dd command to my 16G

Re: [CentOS] USB thumb drive for CentOS 7.7 to install

2019-09-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/25/19 8:46 PM, Jerry Geis wrote: > I took the "everything" iso and did the dd command to my 16G thumb drive. > > I booted and entered my usual ks=http://xxx on the boot line. All good so > far. > It gets my kickstart file and installation begins. > At some point it says > > Installing

[CentOS] USB of ISO image

2019-09-25 Thread Jerry Geis
Hi I did the dd iso to my USB. all is fine. I can mount the second partition (which is not iso 9660) and edit the grub.cfg file. Question is what do I run after that so my new menu option appears ? grub2-install /dev/sdd Is that the correct command to get grub to notice my new file ? Assuming

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Adams said: > Once upon a time, Robert Nichols said: > > the lack of VM snapshot capability is a total deal-breaker for me. > > The capability is still there and works just the same as before. The > only change is that the new preferred tool for graphical VM management,

[CentOS] USB thumb drive for CentOS 7.7 to install

2019-09-25 Thread Jerry Geis
I took the "everything" iso and did the dd command to my 16G thumb drive. I booted and entered my usual ks=http://xxx on the boot line. All good so far. It gets my kickstart file and installation begins. At some point it says Installing libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts (492/1948) Retrying download

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Robert Nichols said: > the lack of VM snapshot capability is a total deal-breaker for me. The capability is still there and works just the same as before. The only change is that the new preferred tool for graphical VM management, Cockpit, doesn't yet support making snapshots.

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 25/09/2019 à 18:31, Xinhuan Zheng a écrit : > I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and > restore a CentOS 7 system. I usually use dump/restore commands. > However, I’m having trouble to handle installing bootloader and > creating initramfs for C7 system. Does anyone

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread John Pierce
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 10:20 AM mark wrote: > > Someone mentioned commercial software - I've cloned systems, esp. compute > nodes in a cluster - with rsync. Problem with rsync clones, they are asynchronous each file is copied separately so if the system is live and making changes, for instance

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.0 1905 is now available for download

2019-09-25 Thread Jon Pruente
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 12:01 PM Łukasz Posadowski wrote: > I'm trying it right now. I pleasantly discover PHP 7.2 with fpm and > Python 3.6, which is exactly what I installed from 3rd party > repositories in Centos 7 on my vps. I will test upgrade from C7 to > disable epel and webtatic. Did

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread mark
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On 2019-09-25 11:31, Xinhuan Zheng wrote: >> >> I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and >> restore a CentOS 7 system. > > Though I can not answer OP's question, I have question of my own. > > Is this really routine (often) task for Linux sysadmins?

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8

2019-09-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 9/25/19 7:10 AM, mark wrote: I just skimmed through the deprecated, and there's a*lot*. But one hit me in the face: if you make a change to /etc/nsswitch.conf, you need to REBOOT THE SERVER? Note, that appears in the "known issues" section, and not deprecations.  And if you look at BZ

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Styma, Robert (Nokia - US/Phoenix)
> Hello All, > > I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and restore a > CentOS 7 system. I usually use dump/restore commands. However, I’m having > trouble to handle installing bootloader and creating initramfs for C7 system. > Does anyone know a good document source that

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019, Valeri Galtsev wrote: I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and restore a CentOS 7 system. Though I can not answer OP's question, I have question of my own. Is this really routine (often) task for Linux sysadmins? I used something like that to

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.0 1905 is now available for download

2019-09-25 Thread Łukasz Posadowski
Data Tue, 24 Sep 2019 19:16:40 +0800 Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming napisał(a): > Good evening from Singapore, > > Anybody downloaded, installed, and tried CentOS 8.0 1905 yet? I'm trying it right now. I pleasantly discover PHP 7.2 with fpm and Python 3.6, which is exactly what I installed

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Ron Loftin
On Wed, 2019-09-25 at 11:46 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On 2019-09-25 11:31, Xinhuan Zheng wrote: > > > > Hello All, > > > > I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and > > restore a CentOS 7 system. > Though I can not answer OP's question, I have question of my own.

Re: [CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-09-25 11:31, Xinhuan Zheng wrote: Hello All, I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and restore a CentOS 7 system. Though I can not answer OP's question, I have question of my own. Is this really routine (often) task for Linux sysadmins? I used something

[CentOS] How to dump/restore a CentOS 7 system

2019-09-25 Thread Xinhuan Zheng
Hello All, I guess it is very common for administrative purpose, to dump and restore a CentOS 7 system. I usually use dump/restore commands. However, I’m having trouble to handle installing bootloader and creating initramfs for C7 system. Does anyone know a good document source that details

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 9/25/19 7:30 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> I am guessing that because CentOS releases only every 3-5 years, >> people forget how much work is done at the beginning of every release. >> First there is a lack of packages available. Then there is the >> complaining that the OS is useless because it

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8

2019-09-25 Thread James Edwards
On 2019-09-25 10:10, mark wrote: I just skimmed through the deprecated, and there's a *lot*. But one hit me in the face: if you make a change to /etc/nsswitch.conf, you need to REBOOT THE SERVER? This is true, but the documentation states that it is possible to fix without a reboot: "If a

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2019-09-25 10:12, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 25/09/2019 03:12, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: If the availability of a particular

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 25/09/2019 03:12, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 Liam O'Toole wrote: If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a showstopper, then

[CentOS] CentOS 8

2019-09-25 Thread mark
I just skimmed through the deprecated, and there's a *lot*. But one hit me in the face: if you make a change to /etc/nsswitch.conf, you need to REBOOT THE SERVER? Ok, did this come from Redmond?* Oh, and I note virt-manager replaced by cockpit. Can someone pass along a little note: Sybase has

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 08:22:39AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:04:01PM -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: > > I might end up switching to Mint. > > I'm not sure that's a huge threat to CentOS, they're quite different. > > CentOS 7 really only supported GNOME3, largely

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/24/19 10:55 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:41, Frank Cox wrote: >> >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on >> the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? >> >> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Pete Biggs
> I am guessing that because CentOS releases only every 3-5 years, > people forget how much work is done at the beginning of every release. > First there is a lack of packages available. Then there is the > complaining that the OS is useless because it doesn't have ABC. Then > there is finding

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:04:01PM -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: > I might end up switching to Mint. I'm not sure that's a huge threat to CentOS, they're quite different. CentOS 7 really only supported GNOME3, largely because Red Hat is so involved in GNOME development. MATE support on CentOS 7

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/25/19 12:22 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 25/09/2019 à 08:18, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a écrit : >> Why do you need "every major and minor desktop environment under the >> sun"? I run CentOS desktops/laptops since 5.3 and even rebuilt 70+ >> packages for it, even Skype rpm. >> >> All I need for

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 17:09, Frank Cox wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:55:19 -0400 > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > Nothing has changed since the September 16 answer I gave: > > > > This is more of a question for the EPEL lists versus here. The current > > status is that desktops are harder

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread wwp
Hello, On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:33:53 +0200 Rainer Traut wrote: > Am 25.09.19 um 08:18 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic: > > All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that > > is MATE. All tray icons are visible so I can see if message or mail > > comes without need to move

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 25/09/2019 à 08:18, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a écrit : > Why do you need "every major and minor desktop environment under the > sun"? I run CentOS desktops/laptops since 5.3 and even rebuilt 70+ > packages for it, even Skype rpm. > > All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 25.09.19 um 08:18 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic: All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that is MATE. All tray icons are visible so I can see if message or mail comes without need to move more then eyeball. And stablity of CentOS makes it best option even though

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.0 1905 is now available for download

2019-09-25 Thread Randal, Phil
I had fun with that - enter any number you like, if it's not valid it will prompt you with suggestions. It seems to want decimal on the commandline, hex if responding to the prompt. Phil Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Plough Lane | Hereford HR4 0LE Tel: 01432 260415 |

[CentOS] Update to Centos 7.7 / Arch ppc64le / Problem with nvidia driver

2019-09-25 Thread Ralf Aumüller
Hello, today I updated a CentOS 7.6 ppc64le machine to CentOS 7.7. After reboot to the new kernel (4.18.0-80.7.2.el7.ppc64le) dkms could not build the nvidia-module. Error-message from dkms: Compiler version check failed: The major and minor number of the compiler used to compile the

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread H Toms
On 24/09/2019 21:55, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 15:41, Frank Cox wrote: >> Without wanting to sound too pushy, I'm wondering if there is any update on >> the status of Mate now that Centos 8 has been released? >> >> I would love to jump on C8 and start playing with it,

Re: [CentOS] Video projector vs. onboard video card

2019-09-25 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 23/09/2019 à 14:21, Giles Coochey a écrit : > If you are not concerned about not being able to dual-screen (i.e. have > different things displaying on the monitor to what is on the projector, > then the easiest way is to just get a VGA splitter. Thanks very much for the detailed information.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 Mate?

2019-09-25 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 9/25/19 12:06 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > But on the desktop, I've switched to OpenSUSE Leap, and I'm a happy > camper now. I can highly recommend it. Sports every major and minor > desktop environment under the sun, and it's a nice blend of semi-rolling > releases based on a rock-solid SLES