On 08.12.2020 15:12, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 02:54:03PM +0100, Walter H. wrote:
Yes, then the interesting question, how can I make use of these
GeoIP-features when
doing these e.g.
nslookup 200:470:17:55::1
nslookup 222.10.10.1
nslookup www.centos.org
host w
On 9.12.2020 0.38, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 08:34:54AM -0600, Christopher Wensink wrote:
Is it possible that more regressions will get through than have before?
Well, sure, some. But let's not pretend that even RHEL is ever
regression-free. It's software, after all, and ther
+++ Rainer Duffner [2020-12-08 15:42:20]:
> If your business case resolves around being able to freeload on the work of
> others, then there’s a serious problem with the business case.
That applies to IBM/RHEL too. They aren't paying for every bit of
software that is packaged in the distribution.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 22:58 Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 1:04 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
> >
> >> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> >> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
> >> Enter
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:00 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
> The problem is that we won't know if it will work. When CentOS matched
> the RHEL point releases we knew that an RPM/driver targeted for RHEL
> 8.2 has a good chance of working on CentOS 8.2 - but that versioning
> match is lost with Stream. So
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:19 PM Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
> > > "CentOS will become the developer playground"
> >
> > This one is categorically not the case. Even Fedora isn't a dev
>
> It is not the same as Rawhide is all I am saying.
>
> It is based on the current release and it is being modified for some reason.
>
> That modification can be a bugfix from a reported bug, it can be an
> enhancement for a given package or it can be a security update.
>
> Each of these upd
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 7:32 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 5:29 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> >>> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> I promise you, to the best of my knowledg
On 12/8/20 6:04 PM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
> "Rich Bowen" wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS
>> Linux 7, and we'll continue to produce that version through the
>> remainder of the RHEL 7 life cycle.
>
> You say now that you'll support CentOS 7 unt
On 12/8/20 6:18 PM, Pete Biggs wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
>
>>> "CentOS will become the developer playground"
>>
>> This one is categorically not the case. Even Fedora isn't a developer
>> playgro
On 12/8/20 5:29 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
this decision. Red Hat is a d
Was this decision forced, despite objection, on the CentOS board by the
RedHat Liaison?
Yes or No?
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
>
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 17:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > "CentOS will become the developer playground"
>
> This one is categorically not the case. Even Fedora isn't a developer
> playground. Everything landing in CentOS Stream is a
"Rich Bowen" wrote:
> Meanwhile, we understand many of you are deeply invested in CentOS
> Linux 7, and we'll continue to produce that version through the
> remainder of the RHEL 7 life cycle.
You say now that you'll support CentOS 7 until the end, but you also
said you'd support CentOS 8 unt
For the record, I don't think this is a good decision because it
changes what CentOS is (its "core mission" in business-speak).
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 2:07 PM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linu
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:42:01PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> I too would be interested to know what happens to CentOS 8 Stream once
> focus of RedHat moves to RHEL 9? The life cycle document says the last
> release of RHEL8 will be 8.10, that's a five year road map (since point
> releases seem to
>
> FAQ:"Updates for the CentOS Stream 8 distribution continue through the
> full RHEL support phase."
>
> What does this "full" exactly means? Will C8S be "closed" in May 31,
> 2024 [*] but RHEL8 still supported through Maintenance support mode
> until 2029?
I too would be interested to know
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
> >> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
> >> h
We resolved the issue by modifying the CentOS-Base.repo by adding the
appropriate URL's to the various sections,
for example: baseurl=http://vault.centos.org/6.10/os/$basearch/
Thank you,
Paul
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:25 PM Paul Storck
wrote:
> Thank you for the response. I added (copied, edite
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
> >> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
> >> h
On 12/8/20 3:25 PM, Paul Storck via CentOS wrote:
> Thank you for the response. I added (copied, edited, pasted from the C6.9
> section) the following to the /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Vault.repo file but
> I still get the same error message.
> I'm thinking the paths are incorrect in my file because
Forget about IBM.
We were told way back in 2014, when Red Hat bought CentOS, that CentOS
would remain independent from RedHat. This is clearly bullshit now. So we
were totally misled into adopting the platform with the belief that what we
were getting would stay the same, an unsupported recompile
On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
>> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
>> has a CEO, CFO, etc. Red Hat also maintains a neutral relationsh
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:28:58AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as quite
> > arrogant?
> I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has
Yeah, um, if I'm coming across as arrogant, I apologize. I genuinely thi
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 03:15:17PM +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> Forgive a bit of cynicism ...
Sure, some cynicism is absolutely warranted. It's a big change.
> "If you want to keep using RHEL for free, you will have to put up with
> making sure that our paying customers get better quality releases
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 08:34:54AM -0600, Christopher Wensink wrote:
> I agree this is shocking news. If we don't want to be beta testers
> and want to continue to use a stable tested OS should we be moving
> to RHEL servers? Is there a license-free RHEL server option that is
> the recommended pa
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 12:44:36PM -0600, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS
wrote:
> > CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed CentOS8 on my
> > production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks think
> > about this?
> Speaking only for myself, I am ready to give up
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:13 PM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:02 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/20 2:01 PM, cen...@niob.at wrote:
>> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> >> On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
>> >>> Aside from the the latest shiny - what ar
> Date: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 13:25:42 -0800
> From: Paul Storck via CentOS
>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:45 AM Subscriber
>> wrote:
>>
>> > - On Dec 8, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Paul Storck wrote:
>>
>> > Hello, is it possible to install the final updates for CentOS 6?
>> > I ran a yum up
Dear all,
after the upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 one of the applications we use has unclear
Kerberos authentication issues.
I was going to diagnose these and tried:
yum debuginfo-install krb5-libs
However, I get:
Could not find debuginfo package for the following installed packages:
krb5-libs-1
> A colleague of mine - the most proficient admin I personally know - already
> decided to move to Oracle Linux. And I'm currently considering it as an
> option.
And Larry Ellison is sitting in his office laughing his ass off. Happy guy with
a nice christmas gift from the RH board of director
Paul;
How do you intend to test, and measure stability?
I'm not trying to be contrary, or facetious, I'm looking to learn something in
this situation.
Thank you,
Dominic L. Hilsbos, MBA
Director – Information Technology
Perform Air International Inc.
dhils...@performair.com
www.PerformAir.c
On 12/8/20 11:44 AM, Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote:
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 11:58 -0500, Satish Patel wrote:
Folks,
What is going on here
https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed CentOS8 on
my production worklo
On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
has a CEO, CFO, etc. Red Hat also maintains a neutral relationship with
many IBM competitors. So this was not a
Am 08.12.20 um 21:56 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
On 12/8/20 1:04 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to Cen
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 22:12:50 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> A colleague of mine - the most proficient admin I personally know - already
> decided to move to Oracle Linux. And I'm currently considering it as an
> option.
This sounds like a reasonable path forward, but I wonder if Oracle will simply
Thank you for the response. I added (copied, edited, pasted from the C6.9
section) the following to the /etc/yum.repos.d/CentOS-Vault.repo file but
I still get the same error message.
I'm thinking the paths are incorrect in my file because when I try to go to
directly to the URL (http://vault.cent
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 4:02 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 2:01 PM, cen...@niob.at wrote:
> > On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >> On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
> >>> Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8
> >>> Stream? What are the benefits?
Le 08/12/2020 à 21:56, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> And, it will likely be sometime mid to late 1st quarter 2021 before
> CentOS Stream is in its 'Fully Functional' state with community pull
> requests and the RHEL package maintainer doing all the work in CentOS
> Stream, etc . CentOS Linux 8 will st
> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do
> with
> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat
> still
> has a CEO, CFO, etc. Red Hat also maintains a neutral relationship
> with
> many IBM competitors. So this was not an IBM decision.
>
So why is
On 12/8/20 2:01 PM, cen...@niob.at wrote:
> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
>>> Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8
>>> Stream? What are the benefits?
>>>
>>> I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not
On 12/8/20 1:04 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
>> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
>> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead
On 08/12/2020 20:01, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:02 AM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
> Please sign this petition if you don't want the CentOS Board to implement
> this decision:
>
>
> https://www.change.org/p/centos-governing-board-do-not-destroy-centos-by-using-it-as-a-rhel-upstream
>
> Or... don't if you are happy with the
On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8 Stream?
What are the benefits?
I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not address that question.
Is it just a name change? Is it
Would love to see this get off the ground:
Gregory Kurtzer says:
I am considering creating another rebuild of RHEL and may even be able
to hire some people for this effort. If you are interested in helping,
please join the HPCng slack (link on the website hpcng.org).
Greg
(original
If anyone is considering to fork CentOS 8 (I'm not talking about that
"Stream"), count me in.
Otherwise I will switch to openSUSE Leap. At least they are not pushing
me some testing ground.
Best Regards,
Strahil Nikolov
В 12:07 -0500 на 08.12.2020 (вт), Phelps, Matthew написа:
> I still haven't
Am 08.12.20 um 18:11 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
the community. Why would we trust th
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, Rich Bowen wrote:
The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next year
we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise
Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a current RHEL
release. CentOS Linux 8, as a r
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a
> current RHEL release. CentOS
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 11:58 -0500, Satish Patel wrote:
> Folks,
>
> What is going on here
> https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
>
> CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed CentOS8 on
> my production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks
> think
On 12/8/2020 11:28 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17
> more. But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not
> going to happen. I know .. I've tried.
We owe everyone who worked on CentOS a big thank you.
I think a lot of
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:54 AM Frank Cox wrote:
> Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos? I'm asking because genuinely
> don't know; I've never paid any attention to Oracle's Linux offering before
> now.
>
> But today I've seen a couple of the folks here mention Oracle Linux and I
> see that Or
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:43 AM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
> "Since March 2004, CentOS Linux has been a community-supported distribution
> derived from sources freely provided to the public by Red Hat. As such,
> CentOS Linux aims to be functionally compatible with RHEL."
>
I hate to jump in as a De
Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos? I'm asking because genuinely don't
know; I've never paid any attention to Oracle's Linux offering before now.
But today I've seen a couple of the folks here mention Oracle Linux and I see
that Oracle even offers a script to convert Centos 7 to Oracle. No
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:35 PM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:29 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
>> > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as
>> quite arrogant?
>>
>> I am sorry you feel that w
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:29 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
> > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as
> quite arrogant?
>
> I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has
> several programs where they
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 11:29 AM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
> > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as
> quite arrogant?
>
> I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has
> several programs where they g
On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
> Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as quite
> arrogant?
I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has
several programs where they give away RHEL for free. CentOS Stream is
free. CentOS Linux
The first thing Oracle wants is for you to sign up for an Oracle
account. Hmm, I'll give Springdale a try. For those with long
memories, remember the DEC RDMS promises prior to take over, and the
aftermath?
On 08/12/2020 15:58, Julio E. Gonzalez wrote:
I am already using Oracle Linux in som
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:20 PM Marc Balmer via CentOS
wrote:
> Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as
> quite arrogant?
>
Clearly, you haven't been around here long. :)
This is par for the course here, and extremely frustrating.
>
> > Am 08.12.2020 um 18:11 sc
On 12/8/20 11:12 AM, Daniel Worden wrote:
> Could you please unsubscribe this email address. I was not aware of the
> volume of messages this would create and I would like to resubscire using a
> different email address.
Done.
Thanks,
Johnny Hughes
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On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:11 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> >>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
> >
Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as quite
arrogant?
> Am 08.12.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
>
> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings
> Am 08.12.2020 um 18:02 schrieb Phelps, Matthew :
>
> The whole point of CentOS was so that we didn't have to "engage." We don't
> have time for that.
>
You do understand that Open Source does not work like that?
> We just want a stable re-compile of RHEL, as promised. CentOS has been
> di
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 11:11 AM Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> >>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
> >>>
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:12 AM Daniel Worden wrote:
> Could you please unsubscribe this email address. I was not aware of the
> volume of messages this would create and I would like to resubscire using a
> different email address.
>
> Thank you,
> Daniel Worden
> _
Could you please unsubscribe this email address. I was not aware of the volume
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On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
>>> the community. Why would we trust these promises?
>>
>> "Better en
I still haven't seen an answer to the question, "Who made this decision?"
and, "How can we lobby to get it changed?"
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the reb
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 10:59 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
> > the community. Why would we trust these promises?
>
> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that th
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> > I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
> > the community. Why would we trust these promises?
>
> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that
Le 08/12/2020 à 16:54, Marc Balmer via CentOS a écrit :
> This really pisses me off. You published CentOS 8 with a promise to support
> it until May 2029.
>
> Now you betray all users that took you by the mouth by stating it's EOL
> december 31. 2021.
>
> Do you really think that was a smart mov
On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
the community. Why would we trust these promises?
"Better engagement with the community" of course requires that the
community step up and engage. Trust isn't something anyone
Folks,
What is going on here https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/
CentOS 8's future is not looking bright. Recently deployed CentOS8 on
my production workload and now hearing this. What do other folks think
about this?
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On 12/8/20 10:31 AM, Paul Storck via CentOS wrote:
> Hello, is it possible to install the final updates for CentOS 6?
> I ran a yum update and I received this message "Error: Cannot find a valid
> baseurl for repo: base"
> I assume it's due to the EOL of CentOS 6?
>
Yes,
and archived version of
- On Dec 8, 2020, at 6:31 PM, Paul Storck via CentOS centos@centos.org
wrote:
> Hello, is it possible to install the final updates for CentOS 6?
> I ran a yum update and I received this message "Error: Cannot find a valid
> baseurl for repo: base"
> I assume it's due to the EOL of CentOS 6?
Le 08/12/2020 à 16:12, Johnny Hughes a écrit :
> Another very good thing
>
> There is no longer a huge delay of a drop of 750 packages at once and a
> delay of more than a month to get a new release.
>
> There will be on delay in stream .. it will be a constantly rolling
> distribution .. updates
On 12/8/20 10:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:15:04AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
>> That page was never a contract. It's a web page published by an open source
>> project. Please do not misconstrue it as a contract.
>
> I don't think anyone seriously thought it was a con
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:15 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
> On 12/8/20 10:41 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jonathan Billings
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:28:30AM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> >>> You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states t
Hello, is it possible to install the final updates for CentOS 6?
I ran a yum update and I received this message "Error: Cannot find a valid
baseurl for repo: base"
I assume it's due to the EOL of CentOS 6?
Thank you,
Paul
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To be fair, that was a commitment RH gave. They are now a department
within Big Blue and must dance to their tune. Of course you
could always try holding your breath and awaiting the sell off to Lenovo
in about five years time.
On 08/12/2020 16:25, Lange, Markus wrote:
Hi,
this is really b
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 11:15:04AM -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> That page was never a contract. It's a web page published by an open source
> project. Please do not misconstrue it as a contract.
I don't think anyone seriously thought it was a contract.
Open Source works largely on trust. Trust tha
Hi,
this is really bad news.
Back in 2014 [1], sadly no one at RH seems to remember...
"Some of the things that are not changing:
- - The CentOS Linux platform isn't changing. The process and methods
built up around the platform however are going to become more open,
more inclusive and transpare
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 10:15 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>
> On 12/8/20 10:41 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jonathan Billings
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:28:30AM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> >>> You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the
> Am 08.12.2020 um 17:15 schrieb Rich Bowen :
>
>
>
> On 12/8/20 10:41 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jonathan Billings
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:28:30AM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL
On 12/8/20 10:41 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jonathan Billings
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:28:30AM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is
May 2029. (c.f.
https://endoflife.software/operat
Many CentOS users are also RedHat customers. Those RedHat customers may
currently be rethinking their RedHat investment given this change of events.
We currently run Oracle Linux on a number of servers and have been very pleased
with it.
Andrea
-Original Message-
From: CentOS On Beh
I'll probably switch to Debian over the new year.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 8:01 AM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:58 AM Julio E. Gonzalez
> wrote:
>
> > I am already using Oracle Linux in some servers.
> >
> > Free as CentOS, faster updates than CentOS, and with some extra su
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:58 AM Julio E. Gonzalez
wrote:
> I am already using Oracle Linux in some servers.
>
> Free as CentOS, faster updates than CentOS, and with some extra support,
> BTRFS and a newer kernel, for example.
>
>
>
I expect their usage is about to explode.
I've always feared a g
I am already using Oracle Linux in some servers.
Free as CentOS, faster updates than CentOS, and with some extra support,
BTRFS and a newer kernel, for example.
On 12/8/20 12:15 PM, Pete Biggs wrote:
Red Hat's perspective is "CentOS is ours now; IBM have told us to make
sure it's pulling it
This really pisses me off. You published CentOS 8 with a promise to support it
until May 2029.
Now you betray all users that took you by the mouth by stating it's EOL
december 31. 2021.
Do you really think that was a smart move?
> Am 08.12.2020 um 15:06 schrieb Rich Bowen :
>
> The future of
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Jonathan Billings
wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:28:30AM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is
> > May 2029. (c.f.
> https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos).
> > CentOS St
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 10:28 AM Phelps, Matthew
wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
>
>> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
>> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
>> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:28:30AM -0500, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> You have published a CentOS Lifecycle that states the EOL for CentOS 8 is
> May 2029. (c.f. https://endoflife.software/operating-systems/linux/centos).
> CentOS Stream *is not* CentOS 8.
>
> This announcement is a breach of that tr
On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 9:06 AM Rich Bowen wrote:
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a
> current RHEL release. CentOS
On 08/12/2020 15:15, Pete Biggs wrote:
So as far as I can see all the RHEL rebuilds are dead now - WhiteBox,
Scientific Linux, now CentOS. Are there any left?
Springdale:
http://springdale.math.ias.edu/
--
Harold Toms
SBCS NMR Manager
Working from home
_
It appears that Red Hat has taken ownership of a free and opensource OS and is
now making decisions regarding it. Maybe it is time to look at Oracle Linux.
Andrea
-Original Message-
From: CentOS On Behalf Of Pete Biggs
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 9:15 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Subje
Forgive a bit of cynicism ...
On Tue, 2020-12-08 at 09:06 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
> The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next
> year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead
On 12/8/20 8:35 AM, Bill Gee wrote:
> Aside from the the latest shiny - what are the advantages of CentOS 8 Stream?
> What are the benefits?
>
> I read through the announcement and FAQ, but they do not address that
> question. Is it just a name change? Is it an attempt to put CentOS on a
> s
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