Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-03 Thread Scott Silva
on 6-3-2009 6:10 AM Ralph Angenendt spake the following: > Kai Schaetzl wrote: >> Ralph Angenendt wrote on Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:14:55 +0200: >> >>> Probably the latter. CentOS 5 SP 3 would maybe have been a better choice >>> than CentOS 5.3 >> Not if one wants to stay in sync with the RHEL naming sch

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote on Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:14:55 +0200: > > > Probably the latter. CentOS 5 SP 3 would maybe have been a better choice > > than CentOS 5.3 > > Not if one wants to stay in sync with the RHEL naming scheme :-) It clearly is the other way round, Red Hat has ad

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 06/03/2009 01:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: >> Probably the latter. CentOS 5 SP 3 would maybe have been a better choice >> than CentOS 5.3 > > Not if one wants to stay in sync with the RHEL naming scheme :-) I dont think that will be a problem, since we have never been in sync with Red Hat's nami

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-03 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ralph Angenendt wrote on Wed, 3 Jun 2009 13:14:55 +0200: > Probably the latter. CentOS 5 SP 3 would maybe have been a better choice > than CentOS 5.3 Not if one wants to stay in sync with the RHEL naming scheme :-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Ralph Angenendt wrote on Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:17:35 +0200: > > > One of the reasons CentOS chose not to do it > > It appears that only a very very small number of people need it or *think* > they need it. Probably the latter. CentOS 5 SP 3 would maybe have been a better cho

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-03 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ralph Angenendt wrote on Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:17:35 +0200: > One of the reasons CentOS chose not to do it It appears that only a very very small number of people need it or *think* they need it. It would have surely been a great waste of time and ressources if CentOS had adopted it and no real be

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
j...@rossberry.com wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > > Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > >> AFAIK, this never happened. Is the 5.x.z tree concept dead-before-birth?! > > > > For CentOS: Yes. > > > > For Upstream: Ask Red Hat. > > I have asked RHT repeatedly to walk me through t

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread jim
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: >> AFAIK, this never happened. Is the 5.x.z tree concept dead-before-birth?! > > For CentOS: Yes. > > For Upstream: Ask Red Hat. > > Ralph > I have asked RHT repeatedly to walk me through the life of a package version. Not

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Scott Silva
on 6-2-2009 1:53 PM Radu-Cristian FOTESCU spake the following: > --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Dag Wieers > wrote: > >> Communication problems are usually caused by both sides. > > Agreed. > >> Besides the EUS source RPM packages are not released >> to the public, so you need those expensive entitleme

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Dag Wieers wrote: > Communication problems are usually caused by both sides. Agreed. > Besides the EUS source RPM packages are not released > to the public, so you need those expensive entitlements > to be able to rebuild them. Eek. Never knew that. This looks more like

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Dag Wieers
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: >> For CentOS: Yes. > > But Karanbir says I seem "quite confused about what should and should not > exist." How can you answer correctly to an incorrect question raised by an > confused ignorant? > >> For Upstream: Ask Red Hat. > > I was hoping *y

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Ralph Angenendt wrote: > > For CentOS: Yes. But Karanbir says I seem "quite confused about what should and should not exist." How can you answer correctly to an incorrect question raised by an confused ignorant? > For Upstream: Ask Red Hat. I was hoping *you* (some of y

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Karanbir Singh wrote: > > > > So there *should* have existed: > > * 5.1-only updates issued post-5.2; > > * 5.1-only and 5.2-only updates issued post-5.3; > > etc. > > go back and reread the entire list of comments. > You seem quite confused > about what should and should

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 06/02/2009 02:27 PM, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > So there *should* have existed: > * 5.1-only updates issued post-5.2; > * 5.1-only and 5.2-only updates issued post-5.3; > etc. go back and reread the entire list of comments. You seem quite confused about what should and should not exist. -

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote: > AFAIK, this never happened. Is the 5.x.z tree concept dead-before-birth?! For CentOS: Yes. For Upstream: Ask Red Hat. Ralph pgpvVtxZUcKsC.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://l

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Radu-Cristian FOTESCU
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Point releases are just freezes in time. There are no > "special" updates for point releases, only for the > "current" release. This is what we all *believe* we know (e.g. "5"-current is now "5.3"+updates). However, TUV seems to have had a different o

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matthias Leopold wrote on Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:56:47 +0200: > is it normal behavior that through the use of "yum update" systems are > forced to follow the point releases of a major release (5.0 -> 5.1 -> > 5.2, etc)? is there a way and would it make sense to stay within one > particular release an

Re: [CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Renato de Oliveira Diogo
Hi The major release of CentOS/RHEL is from 5.x -> 6.x. The 5.0 -> 5.1 -> 5.2 ... is a update security, and all shared the same repository, and the line of version the packages is to update. In some package case is major update because of security update, eg. firefox 1.5 to 3.0. Mozilla a long tim

[CentOS] release/update question

2009-06-02 Thread Matthias Leopold
hi, since i don't use centos very heavily i'm not too familiar with the centos/rhel release/update process (and i didn't do much research on this): is it normal behavior that through the use of "yum update" systems are forced to follow the point releases of a major release (5.0 -> 5.1 -> 5.2, etc