Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Dag Wieers wrote: You need a RHN entitlement. So that's hardly pushing. Look at it from some other angels. - It shows people we are helping to give back to upstream (and not just reaping) - It encourages people to help CentOS as well - It shows Red Hat we are willing to help with Beta-test

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Dag Wieers wrote: Maybe we should ask the QA SIG if they are interested to have this happen under their hood or not. In my opinion this is way to soon to organize. perhaps for 5.3, but if you thinking about this on the larger scale of things its the sort of thing that could / should become a

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: We are not pushing the RHEL Betas by mentioning it on the wiki, are we ? Putting it on the Download page, we most certainly are pushing it. You need a RHN entitlement. So that's hardly pushing. Look at it from some other angels.

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
Dag Wieers wrote: I did no have anything to add. I do understand your point and I agree with it partly. I normally do not ack on every email that I agree with. Ok, it was just quite surprising that you went ahead and posted that content anyway. To me, it was the start of a conversation and not

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: That's what this page was for, really: http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute Would this sort of a testing effort be better handled under the ageis of the QA Effort rather than the Contribute page ? Most people who use CentOS and

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
Dag Wieers wrote: That's what this page was for, really: http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute Would this sort of a testing effort be better handled under the ageis of the QA Effort rather than the Contribute page ? Most people who use CentOS and want to contribute dont have RHN access or wis

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Marcus Moeller wrote: Good Evening. I dont understand the fascination with the RHEL beta's at all. They clearly dont want it in the open space, so why are we pushing for that ? I don't think that pushing RH's beta is such a bad idea as it will help improving CentOS. But a

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi, Marcus Moeller wrote: I don't think that pushing RH's beta is such a bad idea as it will help improving CentOS. But afaik there won't be any 'open' RHEL betas in the near future. If its not open, its not welcome in CentOS lands ( /opinion ) If people want it promoted via CentOS channels,

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008, Karanbir Singh wrote: Marcus Moeller wrote: Good Evening (Dag and Karan), I have noticed the slight changes on the Download Page which is now linking to the RHEL Betas and want to take the discussion to the ML instead of the Wiki. I would personally prefer to link to

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Marcus Moeller
Good Evening. > I dont understand the fascination with the RHEL beta's at all. They clearly > dont want it in the open space, so why are we pushing for that ? I don't think that pushing RH's beta is such a bad idea as it will help improving CentOS. But afaik there won't be any 'open' RHEL betas i

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
Marcus Moeller wrote: I have noticed the slight changes on the Download Page which is now linking to the RHEL Betas and want to take the discussion to the ML instead of the Wiki. I've removed that content from the wiki page ( again ). Pending this conversation thread we can work out what needs

Re: [CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
Marcus Moeller wrote: Good Evening (Dag and Karan), I have noticed the slight changes on the Download Page which is now linking to the RHEL Betas and want to take the discussion to the ML instead of the Wiki. I would personally prefer to link to the RHEL Betas from a (not yet created) Test-driv

[CentOS-docs] Test-driving RHEL Betas

2008-11-03 Thread Marcus Moeller
Good Evening (Dag and Karan), I have noticed the slight changes on the Download Page which is now linking to the RHEL Betas and want to take the discussion to the ML instead of the Wiki. I would personally prefer to link to the RHEL Betas from a (not yet created) Test-driving RHEL SIG page instea