Re: [ceph-users] Ceph Block Storage QoS

2013-11-07 Thread Josh Durgin
On 11/08/2013 03:13 PM, ja...@peacon.co.uk wrote: On 2013-11-08 03:20, Haomai Wang wrote: On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Josh Durgin wrote: I just list commands below to help users to understand: cinder qos-create high_read_low_write consumer="front-end" read_iops_sec=1000 write_iops_sec=10

Re: [ceph-users] Running on disks that lose their head

2013-11-07 Thread James Pearce
when one head out of ten fails: disks can keep working with the nine remaining heads... some info on this at last in the SATA-IO 3.2 Spec... "Rebuild Assist... Some info on the command set (SAS & SATA implementations): http://www.seagate.com/files/staticfiles/docs/pdf/whitepaper/tp620-1-1110us

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph Block Storage QoS

2013-11-07 Thread james
On 2013-11-08 03:20, Haomai Wang wrote: On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Josh Durgin wrote: I just list commands below to help users to understand: cinder qos-create high_read_low_write consumer="front-end" read_iops_sec=1000 write_iops_sec=10 Does this have any normalisation of the IO uni

[ceph-users] radosgw-agent sync object:state is error

2013-11-07 Thread lixuehui
Hi list We deploied a master zone and a slave zone in two clusters to test the multi-locals backup . The radosgw-anget sync buckets successfully .We can find the same buckets info in the slave zone . But the running radosgw-agent throw out error info that objects failed to sync , just like th

Re: [ceph-users] Kernel Panic / RBD Instability

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
Well, as you've noted you're getting some slow requests on the OSDs when they turn back on; and then the iSCSI gateway is panicking (probably because the block device write request is just hanging). We've gotten prior reports that iSCSI is a lot more sensitive to a few slow requests than most use c

Re: [ceph-users] deployment architecture practices / new ideas?

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Gautam Saxena wrote: > I'm a little confused -- does CEPH support incremental snapshots of either > VMs or the CEPH-FS? I saw in the release notes for "dumpling" release > (http://ceph.com/docs/master/release-notes/#v0-67-dumpling) this statement: > "The MDS now dis

Re: [ceph-users] computing PG IDs

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Kenneth Waegeman wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just started to look at the documentation of Ceph and I've hit something I > don't understand. > It's about something on http://ceph.com/docs/master/architecture/ > > """ > use the following steps to compute PG IDs. > > T

Re: [ceph-users] RBD back

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:26 AM, lixuehui wrote: > Hi all > Ceph Object Store service can spans geographical locals . Now ceph also > provides FS and RBD .IF our applications need the RBD service .Can we > provide backup and disaster recovery for it via gateway through some > transfermation ? I

Re: [ceph-users] Aging off objects [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Dickson, Matt MR wrote: > UNOFFICIAL > > Hi, > > I'm new to Ceph and investigating how objects can be aged off, ie delete all > objects older than 7 days. Is there funtionality to do this via the Ceph > SWIFT api or alternatively using a java rados libaray? Not in

Re: [ceph-users] About memory usage of ceph-mon on arm

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
I don't think this is anything we've observed before. Normally when a Ceph node is using more memory than its peers it's a consequence of something in that node getting backed up. You might try looking at the perf counters via the admin socket and seeing if something about them is different between

Re: [ceph-users] near full osd

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
It sounds like maybe your PG counts on your pools are too low and so you're just getting a bad balance. If that's the case, you can increase the PG count with "ceph osd pool set pgnum ". OSDs should get data approximately equal to /, so higher weights get more data and all its associated traffic.

Re: [ceph-users] Pool without a name, how to remove it?

2013-11-07 Thread Gregory Farnum
I don't remember how this has come up or been dealt with in the past, but I believe it has been. Have you tried just doing it via the ceph or rados CLI tools with an empty pool name? -Greg Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Wido den Hollan

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph User Committee

2013-11-07 Thread Alek Paunov
Hi Loic, On 08.11.2013 00:19, Loic Dachary wrote: On 08/11/2013 04:57, Kyle Bader wrote: I think this is a great idea. One of the big questions users have is "what kind of hardware should I buy." An easy way for users to publish information about their setup (hardware, software versions, use-

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph Block Storage QoS

2013-11-07 Thread Haomai Wang
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Josh Durgin wrote: > On 11/08/2013 03:50 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > >> On 11/07/2013 08:42 PM, Gruher, Joseph R wrote: >> >>> Is there any plan to implement some kind of QoS in Ceph? Say I want to >>> provide service level assurance to my OpenStack VMs and I

Re: [ceph-users] radosgw-agent failed to sync object

2013-11-07 Thread Josh Durgin
On 11/07/2013 09:48 AM, lixuehui wrote: Hi all : After we build a region with two zones distributed in two ceph cluster.Start the agent ,it start works! But what we find in the radosgw-agent stdout is that it failed to sync objects all the time .Paste the info: (env)root@ceph-rgw41:~/myproject#

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph Block Storage QoS

2013-11-07 Thread Josh Durgin
On 11/08/2013 03:50 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote: On 11/07/2013 08:42 PM, Gruher, Joseph R wrote: Is there any plan to implement some kind of QoS in Ceph? Say I want to provide service level assurance to my OpenStack VMs and I might have to throttle bandwidth to some to provide adequate bandwid

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph User Committee

2013-11-07 Thread Patrick McGarry
Thanks for floating this out there Loic! A few thoughts inline below: On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Loic Dachary wrote: > Hi, > > It looks like there indeed is enough interest to move forward :-) The next > action items would be : > > * Setup a home page somewhere ( should it be a separate w

Re: [ceph-users] Havana & RBD - a few problems

2013-11-07 Thread Josh Durgin
On 11/08/2013 12:15 AM, Jens-Christian Fischer wrote: Hi all we have installed a Havana OpenStack cluster with RBD as the backing storage for volumes, images and the ephemeral images. The code as delivered in https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/imagebackend.py#L498 f

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph User Committee

2013-11-07 Thread Loic Dachary
Hi, It looks like there indeed is enough interest to move forward :-) The next action items would be : * Setup a home page somewhere ( should it be a separate web site or could we simply take over http://ceph.com/ ? ) * Create the "About" page describing the User Committee and get a consensus

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph User Committee

2013-11-07 Thread Kyle Bader
> Would this be something like > http://wiki.ceph.com/01Planning/02Blueprints/Firefly/Ceph-Brag ? Something very much like that :) -- Kyle ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@lists.ceph.com http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com

Re: [ceph-users] Running on disks that lose their head

2013-11-07 Thread james
On 2013-11-06 09:33, Sage Weil wrote: On Wed, 6 Nov 2013, Loic Dachary wrote: Hi Ceph, People from Western Digital suggested ways to better take advantage of the disk error reporting... when one head out of ten fails : disks can keep working with the nine remaining heads. Losing 1/10 of the

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph User Committee

2013-11-07 Thread Loic Dachary
On 08/11/2013 04:57, Kyle Bader wrote: >> I think this is a great idea. One of the big questions users have is >> "what kind of hardware should I buy." An easy way for users to publish >> information about their setup (hardware, software versions, use-case, >> performance) when they have succes

Re: [ceph-users] Can someone please help me here?

2013-11-07 Thread Alfredo Deza
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Trivedi, Narendra wrote: > I can't install Ubuntu... I am not sure why would it do on a new install of > CentOS. I wanted to try this to if I can take it as RBD/Radosgw backend for > OpenStack production but I can't believe it has taken forever to get it > runnin

Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance

2013-11-07 Thread Dinu Vlad
I have 2 SSDs (same model, smaller capacity) for / connected on the mainboard. Their sync write performance is also poor - less than 600 iops, 4k blocks. On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Kyle Bader wrote: >> ST240FN0021 connected via a SAS2x36 to a LSI 9207-8i. > > The problem might be SATA transp

[ceph-users] cinder-volume rbd driver assumes that image is raw without checking

2013-11-07 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
It appears that the RBD driver in Cinder only checks that the image is accessible, and if it is, assumes it is cloneable, regardless of its format. I think it would be more useful if the driver also confirmed the image format, and reverted to straight copy instead of copy-on-write if the format is

Re: [ceph-users] deployment architecture practices / new ideas?

2013-11-07 Thread Danny Al-Gaaf
Am 06.11.2013 15:05, schrieb Gautam Saxena: > We're looking to deploy CEPH on about 8 Dell servers to start, each of > which typically contain 6 to 8 harddisks with Perc RAID controllers which > support write-back cache (~512 MB usually). Most machines have between 32 > and 128 GB RAM. Our question

Re: [ceph-users] How to use Admin Ops API in Ceph Object Storage

2013-11-07 Thread Nelson Jeppesen
Sweet, thanks! I had to add --caps="metadata=read" ,but it worked great. On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Yehuda Sadeh wrote: > You can do it through the metadata api. Try doing something like: > > GET /admin/metadata/user > > Yehuda > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Nelson Jeppesen > wro

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph User Committee

2013-11-07 Thread Kyle Bader
> I think this is a great idea. One of the big questions users have is > "what kind of hardware should I buy." An easy way for users to publish > information about their setup (hardware, software versions, use-case, > performance) when they have successful deployments would be very valuable. > Ma

[ceph-users] Can someone please help me here?

2013-11-07 Thread Trivedi, Narendra
I can't install Ubuntu... I am not sure why would it do on a new install of CentOS. I wanted to try this to if I can take it as RBD/Radosgw backend for OpenStack production but I can't believe it has taken forever to get it running and I am not there yet! -Original Message- From: ceph-u

Re: [ceph-users] How to use Admin Ops API in Ceph Object Storage

2013-11-07 Thread Yehuda Sadeh
You can do it through the metadata api. Try doing something like: GET /admin/metadata/user Yehuda On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Nelson Jeppesen wrote: > I've looked around but could not find it. Can I open a ticket for this > issue? > > Not being able to enumerate users via API is a road blo

Re: [ceph-users] How to use Admin Ops API in Ceph Object Storage

2013-11-07 Thread Nelson Jeppesen
I've looked around but could not find it. Can I open a ticket for this issue? Not being able to enumerate users via API is a road block for me and I'd like to work and get it resolved. Thanks. -- Nelson Jeppesen ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@l

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph Block Storage QoS

2013-11-07 Thread Andrey Korolyov
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote: > On 11/07/2013 08:42 PM, Gruher, Joseph R wrote: >> >> Is there any plan to implement some kind of QoS in Ceph? Say I want to >> provide service level assurance to my OpenStack VMs and I might have to >> throttle bandwidth to some to pro

Re: [ceph-users] Ceph Block Storage QoS

2013-11-07 Thread Wido den Hollander
On 11/07/2013 08:42 PM, Gruher, Joseph R wrote: Is there any plan to implement some kind of QoS in Ceph? Say I want to provide service level assurance to my OpenStack VMs and I might have to throttle bandwidth to some to provide adequate bandwidth to others - is anything like that planned for Ce

Re: [ceph-users] Running on disks that lose their head

2013-11-07 Thread Kyle Bader
> Zackc, Loicd, and I have been the main participants in a weekly Teuthology > call the past few weeks. We've talked mostly about methods to extend > Teuthology to capture performance metrics. Would you be willing to join us > during the Teuthology and Ceph-Brag sessions at the Firefly Developer >

Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance

2013-11-07 Thread Kyle Bader
> ST240FN0021 connected via a SAS2x36 to a LSI 9207-8i. The problem might be SATA transport protocol overhead at the expander. Have you tried directly connecting the SSDs to SATA2/3 ports on the mainboard? -- Kyle ___ ceph-users mailing list ceph-user

[ceph-users] Ceph Block Storage QoS

2013-11-07 Thread Gruher, Joseph R
Is there any plan to implement some kind of QoS in Ceph? Say I want to provide service level assurance to my OpenStack VMs and I might have to throttle bandwidth to some to provide adequate bandwidth to others - is anything like that planned for Ceph? Generally with regard to block storage (rb

Re: [ceph-users] Running on disks that lose their head

2013-11-07 Thread Mike Dawson
Thanks, Mike Dawson Co-Founder & Director of Cloud Architecture Cloudapt LLC 6330 East 75th Street, Suite 170 Indianapolis, IN 46250 On 11/7/2013 2:12 PM, Kyle Bader wrote: Once I know a drive has had a head failure, do I trust that the rest of the drive isn't going to go at an inconvenient

Re: [ceph-users] radosgw questions

2013-11-07 Thread Kyle Bader
> 1. To build a high performance yet cheap radosgw storage, which pools should > be placed on ssd and which on hdd backed pools? Upon installation of > radosgw, it created the following pools: .rgw, .rgw.buckets, > .rgw.buckets.index, .rgw.control, .rgw.gc, .rgw.root, .usage, .users, > .users.email

Re: [ceph-users] please help me.problem with my ceph

2013-11-07 Thread Gruher, Joseph R
>From: ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com [mailto:ceph-users- >boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of ?? >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:04 PM >To: ceph-users >Subject: [ceph-users] please help me.problem with my ceph > >1.  I have installed ceph with one mon/mds and one osd.When i use 'ceph -

Re: [ceph-users] please help me.problem with my ceph

2013-11-07 Thread Kai
Hi 皓月, You can try "ls -al /mnt/ceph ", check if the current user have W/R access to the directory. Maybe you need to use "chown" to change the directory owner. Regards, Kai At 2013-11-06 22:03:31,"皓月" wrote: 1. I have installed ceph with one mon/mds and one osd.When i use 'ceph -s',there s

Re: [ceph-users] Running on disks that lose their head

2013-11-07 Thread Kyle Bader
>> Once I know a drive has had a head failure, do I trust that the rest of the >> drive isn't going to go at an inconvenient moment vs just fixing it right >> now when it's not 3AM on Christmas morning? (true story) As good as Ceph >> is, do I trust that Ceph is smart enough to prevent spreadin

Re: [ceph-users] radosgw questions

2013-11-07 Thread John Wilkins
For #2, I just wrote a document on setting up a federated architecture. You can view it here: http://ceph.com/docs/master/radosgw/federated-config/ This functionality will be available in the Emperor release. The use case I described involved two zones in a master region talking to the same underl

Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance

2013-11-07 Thread Dinu Vlad
I was under the same impression - using a small portion of the SSD via partitioning (in my case - 30 gigs out of 240) would have the same effect as activating the HPA explicitly. Am I wrong? On Nov 7, 2013, at 8:16 PM, ja...@peacon.co.uk wrote: > On 2013-11-07 17:47, Gruher, Joseph R wrote:

Re: [ceph-users] Manual Installation steps without ceph-deploy

2013-11-07 Thread John Wilkins
I've seen this before too. CentOS starts up without networking on by default. In my case, the problem was that the monitors cannot form a quorum and OSDs cannot find each other or monitors. Hence, you get that broken pipe error. You either need to have the networking start on startup before the OSD

Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance

2013-11-07 Thread james
On 2013-11-07 17:47, Gruher, Joseph R wrote: I wonder how effective trim would be on a Ceph journal area. If the journal empties and is then trimmed the next write cycle should be faster, but if the journal is active all the time the benefits would be lost almost immediately, as those cells ar

Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance

2013-11-07 Thread Mark Nelson
On 11/07/2013 11:47 AM, Gruher, Joseph R wrote: -Original Message- From: ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com [mailto:ceph-users- boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of Dinu Vlad Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:30 AM To: ja...@peacon.co.uk; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com Subject: Re: [ceph-user

Re: [ceph-users] Havana & RBD - a few problems

2013-11-07 Thread Dinu Vlad
Under grizzly we disabled completely the image injection via libvirt_inject_partition = -2 in nova.conf. I'm not sure rbd images can even be mounted that way - but then again, I don't have experience with havana. We're using config disks (which break live migrations) and/or the metadata service

Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance

2013-11-07 Thread Gruher, Joseph R
>-Original Message- >From: ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com [mailto:ceph-users- >boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of Dinu Vlad >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:30 AM >To: ja...@peacon.co.uk; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >Subject: Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance >In this case h

[ceph-users] Havana & RBD - a few problems

2013-11-07 Thread Jens-Christian Fischer
Hi all we have installed a Havana OpenStack cluster with RBD as the backing storage for volumes, images and the ephemeral images. The code as delivered in https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/libvirt/imagebackend.py#L498 fails, because the RBD.path it not set. I have patched

Re: [ceph-users] Error: Package: 1:python-flask-0.9-5.el6.noarch (epel), Requires: python-sphinx

2013-11-07 Thread Alfredo Deza
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Eyal Gutkind wrote: > Trying to install ceph on my machines. > > Using RHEL6.3 I get the following error while invoking ceph-deploy. > > > > Tried to install sphinx on ceph-node, seems to be success full and > installed. > > Still, it seems that during the installat

[ceph-users] please help me.problem with my ceph

2013-11-07 Thread ????
1. I have installed ceph with one mon/mds and one osd.When i use 'ceph -s',there si a warning:health HEALTH_WARN 384 pgs degraded; 384 pgs stuck unclean; recovery 21/42 degraded (50.000%) 2. i mount a client.'192.168.3.189:/ 100G 1009M 97G 2% /mnt/ceph' but i can't creat a file or a

[ceph-users] Can't activate OSD with journal and data on the same disk

2013-11-07 Thread Michael Lukzak
Hi! I have a question about activating OSD on whole disk. I can't bypass this issue. Conf spec: 8 VMs - ceph-deploy; ceph-admin; ceph-mon0-2 and ceph-node0-2; I started from creating MON - all good . After that I want to prepare and activate 3x OSD with dm-crypt. So I put on ceph.conf this [osd

[ceph-users] computing PG IDs

2013-11-07 Thread Kenneth Waegeman
Hi everyone, I just started to look at the documentation of Ceph and I've hit something I don't understand. It's about something on http://ceph.com/docs/master/architecture/ """ use the following steps to compute PG IDs. The client inputs the pool ID and the object ID. (e.g., pool = ?liver

[ceph-users] [ANN] ceph-deploy 1.3.1 released

2013-11-07 Thread Alfredo Deza
Hi All, There is a new (bug-fix) release of ceph-deploy, the easy deployment tool for Ceph. There were a couple of issues related to GPG keys when installing in Debian and Debian-based distros that where addressed. A fix was added to improve moving temporary files to overwrite other files like c

Re: [ceph-users] [ANN] ceph-deploy 1.3 released!

2013-11-07 Thread Alfredo Deza
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:53 AM, nicolasc wrote: > Hi every one, > > The version 1.3 of ceph-deploy I installed yesterday from official repo > used: > sudo wget ... | apt-key add > to install which failed because the apt-key command was not run with sudo, > but the version 1.3.1 I got this morning

Re: [ceph-users] [ANN] ceph-deploy 1.3 released!

2013-11-07 Thread nicolasc
Hi every one, The version 1.3 of ceph-deploy I installed yesterday from official repo used: sudo wget ... | apt-key add to install which failed because the apt-key command was not run with sudo, but the version 1.3.1 I got this morning seems to work (no pipe anymore, it uses a file, and sudo

Re: [ceph-users] ceph 0.72 with zfs

2013-11-07 Thread Dinu Vlad
Looking forward to it. Tests done so far show some interesting results - so I'm considering it for future production use. On Nov 7, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Sage Weil wrote: > The challenge here is that libzfs is currently a build time dependency, which > means it needs to be included in the target

Re: [ceph-users] ceph cluster performance

2013-11-07 Thread Dinu Vlad
I had great results from the older 530 series too. In this case however, the SSDs were only used for journals and I don't know if ceph-osd sends TRIM to the drive in the process of journaling over a block device. They were also under-subscribed, with just 3 x 10G partitions out of 240 GB raw c

Re: [ceph-users] ceph 0.72 with zfs

2013-11-07 Thread Sage Weil
The challenge here is that libzfs is currently a build time dependency, which means it needs to be included in the target distro already, or we need to bundle it in the Ceph.com repos. I am currently looking at the possibility of making the OSD back end dynamically linked at runtime, which woul

Re: [ceph-users] ceph 0.72 with zfs

2013-11-07 Thread Dinu Vlad
Any chance this option will be included for future emperor binaries? I don't mind compiling software, but I would like to keep things upgradable via apt-get … Thanks, Dinu On Nov 7, 2013, at 4:05 AM, Sage Weil wrote: > Hi Dinu, > > You currently need to compile yourself, and pass --with-zf

[ceph-users] RBD back

2013-11-07 Thread lixuehui
Hi all Ceph Object Store service can spans geographical locals . Now ceph also provides FS and RBD .IF our applications need the RBD service .Can we provide backup and disaster recovery for it via gateway through some transfermation ? In fact the cluster stored RBD data as objects in pool