Robert wrote:
There is no legitimate data suggesting anything other than a lot of wishful
thinking
There is a scientific study from the University of Pennsylvania that says:
1.) Exit polls are so scientifically accurate that they're used to
audit elections around the world, and,
2.) The
It's a bunch of hooey. The entire exercise rests on the flawed assumption that
the polls were conducted correctly and that only chance occurrence created the
skewed polling. A scientific theory built on a flawed assumption is in and of
itself flawed.
You need to get over it. The smartest,
I appear to have so much to write about these days that I just can't help
myself. So I've started a blog to help me get it all out. I have a bunch of
posts up already. Like I said, I can't help myself. Like my posts here on the
Community list, the subjects tend to wander far afield from
Just to poke my nose in:
1) Yes Bush won the election. I don't think that the study referenced is
attempting to prove differently (although Gruss may indeed be - but I'll let
him speak for himself). That's not really the issue at hand.
2) The study has made no assumptions that I could see on
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You knew Cinemax was having a Matrix Marathon...and you didn't SAY anything!!!??
ARRGG
I miss all the good shows on tv!
-Gel
-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis
Almost done with the Matrix Movie marathon on Cinemax (which looks
un-freakin-believable in HD) and I still say
No, it isn't, it is like saying the mob boss that paid for the hit is
responsible for murder, which they are.
Your analogy is more like saying the camera makers are the ones responsible,
which of course they are not.
Now having said all that, we should really place the blame on the people
Ok, whatever... The point is that the paparazzi are a bunch of invasive
pricks who deserve to get their asses kicked while they poke and prod and
invade the privacy of people!
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From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 12:25 PM
To:
Jim wrote:
Just to poke my nose in:
Well written! This should be published somewhere, maybe a blog?
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Robert wrote:
It's a bunch of hooey. The entire exercise rests on the flawed assumption
that the polls were conducted correctly
Isn't it a flawed assumption to assume they weren't? In fact, all
the report is saying is that the odds of all of the exit polls in all
3 states being consistently
There are sociological studies that show that people will lie when put on
the spot about a choice that is seen as socially rejected. Where I work, the
anti-Bush sentiment is so strong that anyone short of me would lie about who
they voted for due to social/peer pressure. I'm not saying that the
Michael wrote:
Should there be checks on all states where the exit polls differed greatly
from the actual numbers? I don't see why not.
Now THAT'S reasonable. It's in all American's interest to be
confident in our election process and sure about the result. This
isn't a partisan issue, it's
Not just sociology. A couple of things to consider that may be
relevant. First off people's reports of their behavior and their
actual behavior only matched some of the time. Also, how people
respond to questionnaires is fairly sensitive to their perceptions of
what the person thinks he's being
yeah but BS doesn't feed the bulldog
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From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 13, 2004 5:22 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Paparazzi beat down!
Good question.
Regardless, I think it is BS for a photographer to hound celebrities and
maul
free-spending ways.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=2026ncid=2026e=2u=/latimests/20041114/ts_latimes/dollarsdeclineisreverberating
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To clear up a few questions people have asked me:
I'm holding Euros because of the weak dollar of course, but mostly
No, I was not hiding from anyone. I was playing with the box to crank up the
speed some by altering settings. Good news is that its faster. Bad news is that
it was down for a bit. I should have it faster yet tomorrow when I install
HTTPZip.
Now I just have to get back to reworking the old books
.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=2026ncid=2026e=2u=/latimests/20041114/ts_latimes/dollarsdeclineisreverberating
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To clear up a few questions people have asked me:
I'm holding Euros because of the weak dollar of course, but mostly because my
wife
Michael wrote:
Should there be checks on all states where the exit polls differed greatly
from the actual numbers? I don't see why not.
Now THAT'S reasonable. It's in all American's interest to be
confident in our election process and sure about the result. This
isn't a partisan
I would think any action taken to monitor the quality of the election
process should naturally come out of the funding for general election
procedures.
It shouldn't be up to private citizens to fund quality checks for this
process - the funding should be available and budgeted at the outset. In
Personally I would like to see a sincere effort for the
states to agree on a
single, consistent, peer-reviewed election process. While
I completely
respect and support the state right to manage their own
elections I find it
ridiculous that we have literally hundreds of different
systems
S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Particularly when this task is responsible for putting in place the
people responsible for putting federal mandates in place which
override state laws.
To me this issue is simple: if there are legitmate questions about the
outcome of an election, then
Let's not jump the gun here.
The evidence is that there is potentially something unusual - it doesn't
warrant an assumption on what or that the election was run improperly.
There are many, many possibilities:
+) It could be (as has been suggested) that the study itself is flawed in
some (or
I am not making an assumption, I am basing my argument on a report prepared by
the polling company itself after the election. From the New York Times:
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THE 2004 ELECTION: THE POLLING; Report Says Problems Led To Skewed Surveying
Data
By JIM RUTENBERG (NYT) 1185 words
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