Re: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread William Bowen
Congratulations!!! :-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application

Re: Did I miss anything?

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
space cake for the prodigal daughter :) me On 7/26/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, Mike's thinking about using arial for his site :) > > On 7/25/05, Erika L Walker-Arnold wrote: > > Just back from my Hilton Head trip which turned into a 1688 mile > > odyssey. Decided to drive to Florid

Re: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Congrats! On 7/25/05, Ken Ketsdever wrote: > Stephanie gave birth to a not so little bundle of joy this morning at > 3:07 am. > > Check out the pics and details at www.ketsdever.com > > Cigars for everyone!! Chocolate Cigars for those who prefer not to > smoke! > ~~~

Re: Did I miss anything?

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Yes, Mike's thinking about using arial for his site :) On 7/25/05, Erika L Walker-Arnold wrote: > Just back from my Hilton Head trip which turned into a 1688 mile > odyssey. Decided to drive to Florida, Clearwater/Tampa Bay area via > Orlando on Thursday. Spent a few days there, then drove up the

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
So lying about sources puts me on your side? That's what I thought :) Gruss you sound too desperate. The Democrats won't control the Senate in 2006, they have Dean in charge which proves they're too out of touch with America. On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Yeah as a matter o

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Time to get with the program... > > DO IT ALL WITH FRAMES. > i do. > then nest 8 tables > and if you want to look coo throw in a few dozen unnamed div t

RE: Gabe Newell- PS3 and XBox360, who's going to program them?

2005-07-25 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 7:39 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Gabe Newell- PS3 and XBox360, who's going to program them? > > He says that Out of Order Execution on an order of difficulty between > 1 and 10 is a 4. Now Multi

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
i thought so. im getting one VERY soon! tw On 7/25/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somewhat suprising that he'd have said something so inaccurate and > old. While it's true that at one time Apple's response to dead > batteries was "just buy a new iPod", I'm pretty sure it's b

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Cameron Childress
Somewhat suprising that he'd have said something so inaccurate and old. While it's true that at one time Apple's response to dead batteries was "just buy a new iPod", I'm pretty sure it's been more than two years since they changed this policy. Here's a 11 month old Boig Boing article about how e

RE: nick? last time I hope on universal groups

2005-07-25 Thread Nick McClure
OK, so I was just double checking everything and yes, I had it correct. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:44 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: nick? last time I hope on universal groups ::pounds head on desk yeah. I think I am formul

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Paul Ihrig
depends what there rattling there lips around. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.c

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
ahhh i knew there was something... anyway, i agree, id prefer to listen to the birds and other stuff. but NOTHING is better @ the gym, as it drowns out the people who want to rattle their lips for 1/2 hour while im trying to spend as little time as possible in there! :) tw On 7/25/05, Nick McClu

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Howie Hamlin
Exactly. A tragedy on all accounts. --- On Monday, July 25, 2005 7:28 PM, Robert Munn scribed: --- > > Oh man, that really sucks. What a horrible tragedy. Poor guy. I feel > for his family, but it's hard to fault the police when they've just > had the second series of bombings in the tube in two

RE: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Nick McClure
No, in fact my wife has one. I guess part of it is they hurt my ears. Not just ipods, but headphones in general. If I'm outside the normal outside sounds force me to turn the things up so loud they give me a headache. -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
also true. On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > Bear with me as I am doing something else, but page 39 indicates that > > the wife recommended Wilson. > > Did Mr. Wilson know that? If not, then he didn't lie. > > ~

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Yeah as a matter of fact I do. > I heard it on either Meet The Press, Fox News Sunday, > or The McLaughlin Group yesterday. > Finally! I thought you would continue defend this treasonous Whitehouse, but you've finally run out of credible defense. Now let's just hope: 1.) Mr. Fit

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
RIGHT! sure. GREAT idea. i hope there was a tongue in your cheek ;) tw On 7/25/05, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DO IT ALL WITH FRAMES. > i do. > then nest 8 tables > and if you want to look coo throw in a few dozen unnamed div tags with > 2 arial & times fonts defined in your css >

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > Bear with me as I am doing something else, but page 39 indicates that > the wife recommended Wilson. Did Mr. Wilson know that? If not, then he didn't lie. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's cus

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Paul Ihrig
DO IT ALL WITH FRAMES. i do. then nest 8 tables and if you want to look coo throw in a few dozen unnamed div tags with 2 arial & times fonts defined in your css ~| This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.co

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
did not compare specs in detail but I had this conversation quite recently -- was talking to a sales person and I see no reason why they would talk their commission down unless they thought this was in fact the case. Could they have simply been wrong, for all I know, sure Dana On 7/25/05

Re: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
also. the pic of your other daughter with the belly! GREAT one. tw On 7/25/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > good stuff! > > congratulations :) > > tw > > On 7/25/05, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > YA!!! > > *confetti!* *confetti* !! > > Congratulations Congratulations

Re: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
good stuff! congratulations :) tw On 7/25/05, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > YA!!! > *confetti!* *confetti* !! > Congratulations Congratulations! > *party horn* > TOOT TOT! > ^_^ > > ~| Find out how CFTick

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
even in the 4th generation one? i thought there was marked improvement as the generations go on? tony On 7/25/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that's all I need to hear. Also, I am told there are cheaper > alternatives that do the same thing. That said I haven't seriously > looked... just p

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
dont drop tables forever, they are GOOD. they have their place. fixed width triple column pages, and even dynamic width triple column tables and some really tricky slicing etc, can still be done WELL with tables. css = good css != the answer to everything i love it and use it, just dont go into

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
www.csszengarden.com On 7/25/05, CF-DEV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok I have always been using table layouts with some CSS properties > to achieve the look and feel of a website. But now ready to tackle > converting it all to CSS. > > What are some good resources to start with? > > TIA! > >

Re: Planarity...careful your head doesn't explode ;-)

2005-07-25 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> http://home.cwru.edu/~jnt5/Planarity/ > I made it to level 6 before I got frustrated ;-) I gave up on level 11... at which point I'm thinking, "what is it just a formula that goes on forever?!" But I spent way too much time on it... ... s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it t

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
um, no. Look at conclusions 14 and 15. Especially 15, which says that the NSE "overstated what the intelligence community knew about Iraq's possible procurement attempts." And yes, there is a *lot* of stuff blacked out. Dana > http://intelligence.senate.gov/iraqreport2.pdf > > And the relev

Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread CF-DEV
Ok I have always been using table layouts with some CSS properties to achieve the look and feel of a website. But now ready to tackle converting it all to CSS. What are some good resources to start with? TIA! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.

Gabe Newell- PS3 and XBox360, who's going to program them?

2005-07-25 Thread Vivec
He says that Out of Order Execution on an order of difficulty between 1 and 10 is a 4. Now Multicore Programming is a 10. He cautioned that none of the console companies has shown any running code that could even be considered a close proxy to what we'll see at launch, and they're treating hte con

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
apparently brazilians are demonstrating demanding an arrest. I am not sure I agree? I think there was good reason to suspect a suicide bomber. A small part of me wonders if someone obviously British would have been seen as matching a profile Dana On 7/25/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
Bear with me as I am doing something else, but page 39 indicates that the wife recommended Wilson. This does not seem to be in dispute, although this report is heavily redacted and none of the sources are named. When though did Wilson deny this? More later. Dana On 7/25/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
Oh man, that really sucks. What a horrible tragedy. Poor guy. I feel for his family, but it's hard to fault the police when they've just had the second series of bombings in the tube in two weeks and they are looking for suspects with the full knowledge that the people they are hunting for are p

Re: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread Vivec
YA!!! *confetti!* *confetti* !! Congratulations Congratulations! *party horn* TOOT TOT! ^_^ ~| Get Instant Hacker Protection, Virus Detection, Antispam & Personal Firewall. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
1. The CIA memo from Plame recmmonding Joe Wilson for the trip. This memo was uncovered by the Senate investigation. The contents of the memo are directly in contradiction to Joe Wilson's public statements that his wife had nothing to do with him being sent to Niger. That is direct evidence. See

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
that's all I need to hear. Also, I am told there are cheaper alternatives that do the same thing. That said I haven't seriously looked... just passing on my small sliver of knowledge. Dana On 7/25/05, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing that sticks out about ipods -- something

Re: HTML design questions

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
very fast comment - I like the gradients. Are you putting anything to the left and right of the textbox though? Looks a bit empty. Dana On 7/25/05, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First some explanation > > As I further make my transition to Web Designer from Web Developer I could

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Judith Dinowitz
One thing that sticks out about ipods -- something that Joe Spolsky said in his presentation: Ipods don't give access to the battery compartment to change the battery. So when the battery's dead, you have to buy a new one. Did they change that in the design since CFUNITED? Keep that in mind be

Re: HTML design questions

2005-07-25 Thread Vivec
Why we using the DHTML text area in the center to throw the page content into? What's the benefit of that? Site looks nice, I like the logo :) ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket applicati

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
so nick. which ipod stole your girlfriend? was it a silver mini? come on dude... do you REALLY hate them this bad? tony :) On 7/25/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, but usually I'm walking with other people. I'd rather talk to > people than listen to music. > > -Original

edited maps

2005-07-25 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There was a post to the register saying that Microsoft had removed the Apple offices from their new MSN Earth. Further investigation shows that the MS maps are not actually a satellite feed but are actual about 11 years old. Interesting that MS says how innovative they are and yet their 'copy' p

Re: deploying software through a group policy

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
it's a lot of fun too ;( mind you the text we are using was written by microsoft. Need I say more. Dana On 7/25/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hehe, > > We are doing it, but I've never been a part of it :) > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Se

Re: London police 1, Suicide bomber 0

2005-07-25 Thread G
I'll be watching..but still as a casual fan. If i was a diehard, i'd of probably taken the lockout harder (like i did the 94 mlb strike). > *PUNT* > > I'm in too pissy of a mood to continue this.. without it turning into a > full scale flame war. > > So > > The NHL is back.. who's watc

RE: deploying software through a group policy

2005-07-25 Thread Nick McClure
Hehe, We are doing it, but I've never been a part of it :) -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:22 PM To: CF-Community Subject: deploying software through a group policy Anyone ever done this? thanks Dana -- Nobody's laughing now But y

deploying software through a group policy

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
Anyone ever done this? thanks Dana -- Nobody's laughing now But you could always make me laugh out loud ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banne

Re: That burning sensation...

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Or use a giant magnet to round them up :) On 7/25/05, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Normal microwave beams that are in a consumer grade oven can be > blocked by a wire mesh (which is why the window of microwave ovens > have mesh in them). I wonder is a chain-mail type of suit couldn't be > built

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Yeah as a matter of fact I do. I heard it on either Meet The Press, Fox News Sunday, or The McLaughlin Group yesterday. On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > In other words, do you have > any sources that say the CIA and/or the Whitehouse retracted and now > un-retract? ~~

RE: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Nick McClure
Yeah, but usually I'm walking with other people. I'd rather talk to people than listen to music. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 6:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: ipod question On 7/25/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: That burning sensation...

2005-07-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On 7/25/05, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > may just mean that you're an insurgent. > > http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2005-07-24-energy-beam_x.htm Normal microwave beams that are in a consumer grade oven can be blocked by a wire mesh (which is why the window of microwave o

Re: ipod question

2005-07-25 Thread Cameron Childress
On 7/25/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But then again, I don't care about listening to music while walking from the > car to my desk. I sincerely hope that you walk more places than befween the car and your desk. -Cameron ~~~

Re: adios

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
thanks. Dana On 7/25/05, Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael is planning on having alternate views of the archives where you can > see them in threaded order and in order of arrival. It may not be available > for another week or two, as other things tend to get in the way. >

Re: adios

2005-07-25 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Michael is planning on having alternate views of the archives where you can see them in threaded order and in order of arrival. It may not be available for another week or two, as other things tend to get in the way. Judith - Original Message - > Within gmail it seems as though the emai

Re: nick? last time I hope on universal groups

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
::pounds head on desk yeah. I think I am formulating a question it probably won't be forthcoming till tomorrow though. Dana On 7/25/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you everything right, just backwards ;) > > Here are the group types: > > Builtin Local > Universal >

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Come on, you know how to play the game. Fair enough, but I heard it on either Meet The Press, Fox News Sunday, or The McLaughlin Group yesterday. In any event are you really disputing the fact that the CIA and The Whitehouse both retracted the "16 words"? In other words, do you ha

RE: nick? last time I hope on universal groups

2005-07-25 Thread Nick McClure
I think you everything right, just backwards ;) Here are the group types: Builtin Local Universal Global Local A Builtin Local can contain any of the other types, now a builtin local is not the same as an automatically created local. Kinda like a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not alwa

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Come on, you know how to play the game. You can't just say I heard "bunch of unbelievable nonsense goes here..." You have to provide sources. My source was the 9/11 Commission and the Butler report. What's yours? On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Tenet's statement came out when the

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Howie Hamlin
Yes, it was a tragic mistake. I agree with you on his motivation and I can also understand why the policemen did what they did. --- On Monday, July 25, 2005 5:05 PM, Gruss Gott scribed: --- > >> Howie wrote: >> His work visa was expired. >> > > The guy probably, sadly, never thought the polic

nick? last time I hope on universal groups

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
So let me see if I have this. You can make a universal group a member of a local group and may in fact want to do this to grant access to users from multiple domains. However, in the scenario as presented, this does not work because groups that are automatically created are the exception. So if the

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Howie wrote: > His work visa was expired. > The guy probably, sadly, never thought the police would shoot. He liked his life in London and didn't want to get deported so when the police told him to stop he ran. He didn't consider the seriousness of that in light of the bombings. Maybe he di

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Tenet's statement came out when the forged documents came out, but > before they realized they were forged. > I just heard reps from the Whitehouse and CIA both say that, basically, the retraction stands and that only the British stand behind the Niger claims.

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
I've been sending it to you :) On 7/25/05, Dana wrote: > evidence, please. > > Dana > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?banner

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Tenet's statement came out when the forged documents came out, but before they realized they were forged. On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > Ah, nope. Mr. Wilson, who claimed the evidence didn't support the > notion that Iraq was attempting to obtain weapon grade material from > Niger, was right a

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
But it could imply bias. On 7/25/05, Dana wrote: > Apparently that was the wife. It does seem that the husband was a more > active contributor, yes. This still does not prove malice on his part > :) > ~| Find out how CFTicket can

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
I thought he was on a student visa? OK, I'll shut up till I can read the story, On 7/25/05, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > His work visa was expired. > > --- On Monday, July 25, 2005 4:36 PM, Robert Munn scribed: --- > > > > Not that it justifies anything, but I've never heard the anyo

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
On 7/25/05, Dana wrote: > what's the text of what he wrote in the report? I though it was a written report but it was a verbal report to a CIA officer. > Was it earlier than his trip to Niger? No > Was it earlier than his article in the NYT? No > Could he have received information in the mean

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Howie Hamlin
His work visa was expired. --- On Monday, July 25, 2005 4:36 PM, Robert Munn scribed: --- > > Not that it justifies anything, but I've never heard the anyone give > any reason why the man was running away from the police. The police > thought he was a suicide bomber, that's why they shot him in th

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
Well, here's my take a) Wilson is a liar - remains to be seen b) Bush is a liar - unclear, but if not he's a fool. A does not imply (not B). B does not imply (not A) Dana On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert wrote: > > Repeat after me- Joe Wilson is a big fat liar. > >

Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
Not that it justifies anything, but I've never heard the anyone give any reason why the man was running away from the police. The police thought he was a suicide bomber, that's why they shot him in the head. >He was shot 8 - 7 in the head and once in the shoulder: > >http://edition.cnn.com/2005/

Re: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
>>nine pounds. Ouch. Congratulations though. And chocolate >>for me, thanks :) > My God! If she's nine pounds on the first day she'll be > several thousand pounds by next month! Think of the > diapers! And she'll equal the mass of the known universe > by sweet sixteen! > I'm pretty sure there'

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Robert wrote: > Repeat after me- Joe Wilson is a big fat liar. > Who cares? If Mr. Wilson is a "big fat liar" then he's half the liar Mr. Bush is. Neither is a surprise to me and I wouldn't defend either of them. ~| Find ou

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
evidence, please. Dana On 7/25/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Repeat after me- Joe Wilson is a big fat liar. > > 1. He lied about his wife not being involved in sending him to Niger. She > recommended him as an "ideal" candidate for the trip. > 2. He lied about the faked document

RE: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread Nick McClure
Congratulations, May you have many many memories! > -Original Message- > From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:38 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: It's a Girl!! > > Stephanie gave birth to a not so little bundle of joy this morning at > 3:07 am. >

Re: Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
One thing that strikes me about these bombings -- is it me or are they targeting decidedly working class areas? I mean, it's been quite a while since I was in London but I doubt Stockwell has gentrified much, and Brixton is mainly known for race riots. Hackney is pretty working class isn't it? Or d

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Robert Munn
Repeat after me- Joe Wilson is a big fat liar. 1. He lied about his wife not being involved in sending him to Niger. She recommended him as an "ideal" candidate for the trip. 2. He lied about the faked documents the CIA had concerning the Niger link. The documents didn't come into CIA hands unti

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > We already know what we need to. Wilson went public saying he proved > the story was false while writing in his report the opposite. > Ah, nope. Mr. Wilson, who claimed the evidence didn't support the notion that Iraq was attempting to obtain weapon grade material from Niger, was

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
No I'm saying this quote from the 9/11commision does. I just disn't feel like finding it in th ereport so I used factcheck.org. Ironically, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who later called Bush's 16 words a "lie", supplied information that the Central Intelligence Agency took as confirmation that

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
Apparently that was the wife. It does seem that the husband was a more active contributor, yes. This still does not prove malice on his part :) Dana On 7/25/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You said the Gore campaign. I wanted to show you the whole picture :) > > On 7/25/05, Dana wrote: > >

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
what's the text of what he wrote in the report? Was it earlier than his trip to Niger? Was it earlier than his article in the NYT? Could he have received information in the meantime? Do we believe the Butler Report? I seem to recall that Wayne, who lives there, thinks not. All in all I'd have to s

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
You said the Gore campaign. I wanted to show you the whole picture :) On 7/25/05, Dana wrote: > Actually... I've already said I'd seen info on the campaign contributions. > > The factcheck article -- I need to reread and think about :0 > ~~

Man Wasn't Shot 5 Times

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
He was shot 8 - 7 in the head and once in the shoulder: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/25/london.tube.0955/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseof

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
We already know what we need to. Wilson went public saying he proved the story was false while writing in his report the opposite. On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > There's a new one. > > On 7/25/05, Sam wrote: > > Finished. > > The 9/11 commision report and the Butler report > > http://www.factch

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
so you are saying that the factcheck article is proof that Wilson was lying? I don't know about that. Dana On 7/25/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That was in response to Dana's statement: > > I have not seen this > > anywhere, and while I am not actively researching the story, I am > >

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
That was in response to Dana's statement: > I have not seen this > anywhere, and while I am not actively researching the story, I am > following it in the media. On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Ironically, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who later called Bush's > > The fact is

RE: London police 1, Suicide bomber 0

2005-07-25 Thread SStewart
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Re: London police 1, Suicide bomber 0

2005-07-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
boy you are into masochism. larry On 7/25/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just happy hockey is back, the caps blew last year and I watched almost > every game... of course I've been a redskins fan for years ~| Ge

RE: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
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RE: London police 1, Suicide bomber 0

2005-07-25 Thread SStewart
I'm just happy hockey is back, the caps blew last year and I watched almost every game... of course I've been a redskins fan for years Scott A. Stewart, Web Application Developer Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS) 14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300 Chantilly, VA 20151 Phone: (703)

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
"Bush's "16 Words" on Iraq & Uranium: He May Have Been Wrong But He Wasn't Lying" isn't that usually what Bush's defenders say? He said something untrue but he wasn't lying, he was just misinformedpoor soul. Still, factcheck has a decent reputation, so I'll go over it when I have more time.

Re: London police 1, Suicide bomber 0

2005-07-25 Thread Howie Hamlin
NHL? What's that? --- On Monday, July 25, 2005 3:25 PM, SStewart scribed: --- > > *PUNT* > > I'm in too pissy of a mood to continue this.. without it turning into > a full scale flame war. > > So > > The NHL is back.. who's watching and who's giving up? > > > > Scott A. Stewart, > We

Re: London police 1, Suicide bomber 0

2005-07-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'll be watching, if the Caps resemble a real hockey team for once. larry On 7/25/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *PUNT* > > I'm in too pissy of a mood to continue this.. without it turning into a full > scale flame war. > > So > > The NHL is back.. who's watching and who's givi

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
Actually... I've already said I'd seen info on the campaign contributions. The factcheck article -- I need to reread and think about :0 Dana On 7/25/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Joe_Wilson.php > http://newsmeat.com/washington_political_

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
There's a new one. On 7/25/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finished. > The 9/11 commision report and the Butler report > http://www.factcheck.org/article222.html > > > On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > There is a full investigation into the Niger events and allegations in > > progress and,

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Ironically, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who later called Bush's The fact is that the Whitehouse lied about it's involvement with a leak of CIA operative thus compromising national security for decades to come. Mr. Wilson's actions are completely irrelevant to this violation of

Re: It's a Girl!!

2005-07-25 Thread Deanna Schneider
Congrats! Why aren't you sleeping? On 7/25/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephanie gave birth to a not so little bundle of joy this morning at > 3:07 am. > > Check out the pics and details at www.ketsdever.com > > Cigars for everyone!! Chocolate Cigars for those who prefer not t

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
Gruss, do you have time for this? I need to get some work done. Dana On 7/25/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Joe_Wilson.php > http://newsmeat.com/washington_political_donations/Valerie_Plame.php > > http://www.factcheck.org/article222.html

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Nope, just people that write books and op-eds filled with lies about the man. On 7/25/05, Dana wrote: > I suspect that the man was just doing his job. And if he'd previously > been an ambassador in the region, he was probably qualified to do it. > Sam seems to think that anyone who disagrees with

RE: London police 1, Suicide bomber 0

2005-07-25 Thread SStewart
*PUNT* I'm in too pissy of a mood to continue this.. without it turning into a full scale flame war. So The NHL is back.. who's watching and who's giving up? Scott A. Stewart, Web Application Developer Engineering Consulting Services, Ltd. (ECS) 14026 Thunderbolt Place, Suite 300 Cha

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Finished. The 9/11 commision report and the Butler report http://www.factcheck.org/article222.html On 7/25/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > There is a full investigation into the Niger events and allegations in > progress and, if things are as Sam says, the investigation will turn > that up. > > Personal

Re: Blue Frog antispam - legit or vigilantism?

2005-07-25 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I think that the method used on that spammer is a bit too enthusiastic. larry On 7/25/05, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've gotten spam from him... > > --- On Monday, July 25, 2005 3:01 PM, Jochem van Dieten scribed: --- > > > > Howie Hamlin wrote: > >> I hate SPAM as much as the ne

RE: Did I miss anything?

2005-07-25 Thread Ian Skinner
Just a really nice picture of a pair of boobies posted to this thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=m:5:18007:165881 -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning -

Re: June 10 2003 Memo: Plame Ident "SECRET"

2005-07-25 Thread Sam
Cooper also testified he didn't talk about welfare reform during that call. Since Rove has e-mail from that day proving it, Coopers saying "well maybe we did". On 7/25/05, Dana wrote: > rumors? It's grand jury testimony. ~| Purch

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