Re: Boot camp for all Americans

2006-04-16 Thread Judith Dinowitz
>"me and my people, do not mix well with you and your peoples" > >Couldn't have said it better myself. > >So seriously, who is going to set up the CF-Community, invite only forums so >we can get this shit off of Google? > >I've got the server and bandwidth, just need someone that has he time to >ad

Re: Boot camp for all Americans

2006-04-16 Thread Chesty Puller
Yeah,. you so missed the end of this thread. - Matt - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 1:04 AM Subject: Re: Boot camp for all Americans >I was working on the lists from 8pm sat night to about 8am Sunday mo

Re: Boot camp for all Americans

2006-04-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Just a small point here. If you want to fuck up his posts, please make sure that the fucking is on topic for the thread. Public cross fucking is just plain rude and can make people look at you funny. Not that there's anything wrong with it > Can't afford it? > > Don't speakers get in free?

Re: Boot camp for all Americans

2006-04-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I was working on the lists from 8pm sat night to about 8am Sunday morning due to some mail problems that left a few hundred thousand error messages in my box. This is what slowed down the mail which I fixed. Yeh, I was offline for 3 days due to holiday. That being said, I missed this entire thr

Darwin nomination

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
"Gordon Graham, 38, from Edinburgh, said: "I told my seven-year-old he could go down to the water and see where the swan died but not to touch the water or any bird droppings. He was really curious, I just thought it would be fun for him." " um fun ya, this is the disease for which they are pla

Re: Clarifications

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
please stop this. I am sure I am not the only person wincing here. This is not a court of law where we have to calculate percentages of reponsibility. The other night was a train wreck and you both contributed. Just. Let. It. Go. Both. Of. You. Please. >I've had some time for introspection.

RE: Clarifications

2006-04-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
You might get faster replies if you cc me directly, although given that email is likely to be reasonably inaccessible to me starting tomorrow, you may not get a fast response anyway. Tim Heald said: > So let me understand this, you said you were quitting. > > Here you are posting. > > But your a m

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
actually I think there is no hidden agenda and no master plan -- just sociopathic small-mindedness. >Not really :) >There's an ulterior motive for everything that happens. Every decision >that is made and apparently not made. ~|

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread DRE
Actually, I like Vs articles. You got to admit it takes a bit of effort to post articles that some of certain mindset vilify every chance they get. He could just not and save the hassle but maybe he thinks they make a difference on this list and you gotta respect that. DRE On 4/14/06, Cameron C

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > Shooting at US war planes, plotting to kill a former American president, and > paying terrorist that blow themselves up in our main mid-eastern allies > country, these things aren't bothering us? Telling the inspectors where > they could and couldn't go? > Those were reasons to d

The REAL Dr. Evil!

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
http://drudgereport.com or http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20060416/capt.ny11304160537.exxon_riches_ny113.jpg?x=229&y=345&sig=7Xr84S9BLL3o8xtEcJBSxQ-- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/

RE: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
> it quickly. I was wondering if you think the other people here > don't? You don't have to be crass to stand for something. You can > be in favor of freedom without decimating entire countries that > weren't bothering you. Shooting at US war planes, plotting to kill a former American president, a

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > What it this point? (what are you using to measure "this point"?) > > 3 years? 2 years, 'member? Cheney said we'd in and out in 2 years. Oops. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204375 Arc

RE: Clarifications

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
So let me understand this, you said you were quitting. Here you are posting. But your a man of your word. This is in no way contradictory to you? You claim all you wanted was for this shit to end, yet you continued to post, even now, and I'm expected to sit back and do and say nothing or I look

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
What it this point? (what are you using to measure "this point"?) 3 years? 2000+ dead 15000+ wounded? 150 billion dollars in? or tangible "improvements" to Iraq (all of which existed (in however an evil state) before we went in) restoration of basic prewar services (electricity, water, sewer) a f

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > Actually, I do blame the media for the fact that the expected casualty > rate in Iraq has ever been considered zero. > At this point, the casualities should be zero. Going in, of course, there's going to be casualities. But at this point we should have the country locked down, serv

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
Actually, I do blame the media for the fact that the expected casualty rate in Iraq has ever been considered zero. Is that reasonable? Was it ever reasonable? Hell no. It was only reasonable if we never put a sinlge boot on the ground, and if EVERYTHING went AS PERFECTLY AS POSSIBLE. With any de

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > Et tu Gruss? What is it that makes people make excuses for the people in > charge? I agree, although I liked Jerry's explanation better :) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204370 Archives

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On 4/16/06, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *sigh* > This is all you can glean from everything I have said? No, I really thought it was all very interesting to find out what you have going on personally. Constructions company, new car, etc... all very cool. I just got a new car as well, which

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Vivec
*sigh* This is all you can glean from everything I have said? It is not white people in general, but certain folk in particular. And it is not something which can be swept under the carpet, anymore than the truth of the affairs of our history during colonialism, imperialism,slavery and all the ot

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
he does make sense from time to time :)It's ok, really :) >Yeah, holy crap, this is a first but but I agree ... with >Sam. ::sighs:: That was tough. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204367 A

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
Et tu Gruss? What is it that makes people make excuses for the people in charge? He is responsible. Period. The fact that these problems were in fact foreseen just makes his failure egregious rather than possibly understandable. But even if nobody had ever mentioned the possibility that it might

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> JJ wrote: > but the powers that be (read Rumsfeld and > his cabal such as Perl) did not want to hear about it. > Huh. Well, if true, it sure seems to make sense. So how about this "the media only reports the bad stuff" argument? To me it's crap because it comes down to expectations. For exam

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
>From what I have read (not only pre and post Iraq, but pre and post Desert Storm) was that the insurgency WAS expected, there was contigency planning for it, but the powers that be (read Rumsfeld and his cabal such as Perl) did not want to hear about it. The military leaders who disagreed were re

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > Exactly. It would be funny if it were not so sad. > Well, strangely enough, I find myself defending Rummy a bit here; not the decisions he's made of course, but where his fault lies. In this case, I don't think Rummy is bad, but it's the system that he, the DOD, and the Administra

Re: Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
Exactly. It would be funny if it were not so sad. Dana >"Sec Rumsfeld, accused of dismissing advice, dismisses critics." > >"Pres Bush, accused of blind support, pledges support for Sec Rumsfeld." ~| Message: http://www.houseoff

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
I don't think she is electable either, at least not this round. What about McCain-Feingold? It already has name recognition and some good associations going for it. >I think I'd rather see McCain/Biden if were talking about unity. > >Hillary's too far from center for me, plus the GOP would be a

Re: May Be doing CF again!

2006-04-16 Thread Paul Ihrig
thanks guys. and ray, i doubt it... it is a national placement agency for troubled youth. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204360 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscripti

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Vivec wrote: > I am not of the mind to be able to comfortably make 100% > profit and instead squeeze my staff,my clients and others in order to > acheive 200%. > > I believe in Ethics, which transcends religious boundaries. This is a problem of capitalism, or really, the psychology that can resu

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
My answer still hasn't made it 36 hours later, so I'll summarize it quickly. I was wondering if you think the other people here don't? You don't have to be crass to stand for something. You can be in favor of freedom without decimating entire countries that weren't bothering you. Now please do

Re: Philmont NM? (Re: Boot camp for all Americans)

2006-04-16 Thread Cameron Childress
I think Cub Scouts starts at about 3rd-4th grade or so, that may vary depending on the local Pack. Still a few years away I'd think. Usually the camping and real high adventure stuff doesn't start till Boy Scouts, which is a little later on, like 7th-8th grade or so I think. We did do a couple o

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On 4/16/06, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Cheers Cameron, and Happy Easter. Wow - interesting stuff. Good to hear things are going well for you. It's always interesting to see the picture we all make in our heads of what the others on this list are actually like in person. The new n

Re: Uh, where is everybody?

2006-04-16 Thread Vivec
yipski. List went boom over the night I think. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204355 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/l

Re: Uh, where is everybody?

2006-04-16 Thread Dana Tierney
I think the server had issues over the weekend. A couple of my posts did not go through, and I said the heck with it. Personally. >What happened did everybody leave and turn their computer off? ~| Message: http://www.houseoff

Mandatory Conscription : Allow Me to Be Responsible

2006-04-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Mandatory Conscription Allow Me to Be Responsible - Yesterday I snapped. I hadn't been so livid in a long time, and it's still affecting me today although I feel I'm handling it better than I have in the past. I'm deconstructing my anger now in the hopes of pr

Clarifications

2006-04-16 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I've had some time for introspection. Personally I find that the writing process helps me to deconstruct my thoughts and my emotions, so I'm preparing to post my deconstructed thoughts in another thread. Before I do that I want to make a few things perfectly clear: I am a man of my word. I have

RE: Kerry's new Bill

2006-04-16 Thread Nick McClure
Considering both Kerry and Kennedy are on this bill, you might be right. > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 12:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Kerry's new Bill > > http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.2574: >

RE: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media downloads

2006-04-16 Thread Nick McClure
It isn't that hard, most large vendors already do this. Dell, for instance charges sales tax on every sale for every state in the US. The moratorium on taxation that you speak of is in regards to taxing of internet connections. Product sales voer the internet have always been taxable. > -Orig

RE: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media downloads

2006-04-16 Thread Nick McClure
The internet is stateless. Companies that sell there are not. > -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 4:45 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online > media downloads > > Here's a rea

Anyone try the new Yahoo mail beta?

2006-04-16 Thread Yves Arsenault
I was playing around with the new beta in Yahoo's mail interface. I like the visual presentation. much more than Hotmail's beta, which totally disapointed me. Yahoo's is pretty neat. You can open messages in tabs. I couldn't get the RSS feeds to work (I suppose it is Beta).. The only thing i

Re: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media downloads

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Cam wrote: > If the US Government took just 1% of the time is spends finding new > ways to tax OUR stuff and used it to find ways to stop flushing OUR > money down the shitter, I'd be happy. > Sing it brother! ~| Message: http:

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Vivec
Well, let me fill you in on Vivec (Goddamned pseudonym just won't stick!) since you asked.I don't post very much about myself and my private life anymore, mainly for political and privacy reasons. I don't spend 30 minutes a day hunting these stories. But I do read several news sources throughout t

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> StewMan wrote: > I think I'd rather see McCain/Biden if were talking about unity. Fine by me! > Hillary's too far from center for me, plus the GOP would be all over her > from day one. > This is an odd thing to say when she seem very centrist to me - got any examples?

RE: Happy Holidays to all ....

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
Coo Coo Ca Choo. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:59 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Happy Holidays to all > > > Sure, everybody loves the egg man, but nobody remembers the walrus. > > > > On 4/16/

Re: Happy Holidays to all ....

2006-04-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Sure, everybody loves the egg man, but nobody remembers the walrus. On 4/16/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Happy Egg, people. > > Tim > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:39 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: R

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Vivec
Not really :) There's an ulterior motive for everything that happens. Every decision that is made and apparently not made. On 4/14/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sure somewhere in the US the Administration has a world master > > plan that would see them come out on top if the

Re: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media downloads

2006-04-16 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 09:08 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote: >Subject: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media >downloads >From: Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:23:43 -0400 >Thread: >http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=21132&forumid=5#204328

RE: Happy Holidays to all ....

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
Happy Egg, people. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:39 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Happy Holidays to all > > > HOPPY EASTER EVERYBODIES > ^_^ > > On 4/15/06, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

RE: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
This from a republican? I'll teach my kids about this shit thanks. Debbie Does Dallas CXVII on it's way :) Tim > -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 2:00 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: My apologies > > > You kids need to learn

Re: Happy Holidays to all ....

2006-04-16 Thread Vivec
HOPPY EASTER EVERYBODIES ^_^ On 4/15/06, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And to all a chocolate something. > > Be well. > Love thy fellow man. > Be positive. > Don't sweat the small stuff. > It could all be much much worse... > > > Cheers, > Erika ~~~

Re: Pres and VP taxes

2006-04-16 Thread Robert Munn
Well, who is Mr Smarty-pants now, paying too much on his taxes? Cheney, that's who! On 4/14/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bush paid $187k, Cheney paid $529k > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060414/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_income_taxes > > Cheney paid so much throughout the year based

Re: Found an old game I completely forgot about

2006-04-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
I love it when he sits down and starts to read cause he is bored. On 4/14/06, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With my trusty neural neutralizer and badass pogo stick, I shall > rescure my babysitter from the aliens! > > Keen is keen! ~

Re: Global Temperature Rise of just a few degrees means billions starving.

2006-04-16 Thread Cameron Childress
I'm actually always interested in knowing what's going on. And yes, I look at it in the same way as a slow motion trainwreck. It just gets old. The way I see it, Gel makes a serious daily effort to hunt down 3 or 4 articles and post them, blasting American policy and politics. Not just "hey loo

Re: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media downloads

2006-04-16 Thread Cameron Childress
On 4/14/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Everyone hates to pay taxes. But the fact is: we pay a small percentage tax > on goods we purchase. An online game is simply a good...that we've > purchased. > > It's great that it's not currently being taxed.but what special quality > does this partic

Re: May Be doing CF again!

2006-04-16 Thread Yves Arsenault
I would tend to agree with Tim on this. Hope it works out for you! Yves On 4/14/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Excellent point all. > > One thing, to me, the company you work for now should be ethically bound > to > give you the bonus. I mean, it's for past efforts, not future ones,

Re: May Be doing CF again!

2006-04-16 Thread Ray Champagne
So...Paul, does this new job mean you'll be able to view, um, explicit images at work now? :) Loathe wrote: > Excellent point all. > > One thing, to me, the company you work for now should be ethically bound to > give you the bonus. I mean, it's for past efforts, not future ones, and two > week

*shudder* Segregation alive and kicking.

2006-04-16 Thread Vivec
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/04/14/omaha.schools.ap/index.html "the Legislature voted Thursday to divide the Omaha school system into three districts -- one mostly black, one predominantly white and one largely Hispanic." "Republican Gov. Dave Heineman signed the measure into law." And of c

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > I hate to do it, but I have to agree with you here. > Yeah, holy crap, this is a first but but I agree ... with Sam. ::sighs:: That was tough. However, it's not just Israel, it's also Saudi Arabia, Iraq, etc. While it's fun to say that we've pulled out of Saudi, we j

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Sam
You kids need to learn somewhere :) On 4/14/06, Loathe wrote: > Eww, > > Come on old people, get a room. > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204329 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/t

Re: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media downloads

2006-04-16 Thread Vivec
So if someone buys the Ebook from England, they need to pay tax to the united states? Well screw that I'll just buy it in England. And , this means you need to setup multiple Sales Tax tables for every different State in the US to sell music online? Complications. Cost to provide the service goes

Re: Kerry's new Bill

2006-04-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.2574: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.2575: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.2576: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.2577: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.2578: My bet would be there is a golf club compan

Is this why our gas prices are so high? :)

2006-04-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
>From www.telegraph.co.uk Mr Raymond was paid the equivalent of $190,915 a day, mostly in the form of restricted share awards and payouts from a long-term incentive plan. The package reflects the fact that Exxon had a spectacular year, with the surging price of oil lea

Happy Holidays to all ....

2006-04-16 Thread Erika L. Walker
And to all a chocolate something. Be well. Love thy fellow man. Be positive. Don't sweat the small stuff. It could all be much much worse... Cheers, Erika ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:20432

RE: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Scott Stewart
I think I'd rather see McCain/Biden if were talking about unity. Hillary's too far from center for me, plus the GOP would be all over her from day one. Nothing would get accomplished...waitaminnit, how's that any different than the last 7 or so sitting presidents Thanks Scott Scott A. St

Re: May Be doing CF again!

2006-04-16 Thread Paul Ihrig
there not gonna give me the bonus if it is a week away. but i give notice on monday. good idea! but i dont think they will appreciate my concern on the matter. i thjink i will stall a week and once the check is deposited, quite with out notice. wait, thats not a good idea either

RE: May Be doing CF again!

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
That's awesome man. Honestly, I love hearing good news like this. I just bought a house in Columbia, MD. It means a hell of a lot longer commute. My contract in DC might be ending soon if the contract officer decides not to renew, and get what I get min my in box yesterday? An offer in Columbi

RE: Philmont NM? (Re: Boot camp for all Americans)

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
How old do the kids need to be to start scouts? Finn is 6 and it's something I think we could both have a lot of fun with. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sen

Sirius XACT Visor Radio

2006-04-16 Thread Coldfusion
Does anyone use the XACT XTR3CK Sirius Visor Radio in their vehicle(s)? I have a question and maybe someone has one already. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204320 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion

RE: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
Nope, obviously you haven't seen pictures of our friends here. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject

Re: My apologies

2006-04-16 Thread Sam
No way for Clinton, they makes DeLay look like a saint :) I doubt I'll be supporting McCain, unless of course he's running against Hillary, Kerry or Gore. On 4/14/06, William Bowen wrote: > > I wouldn't want to see her one bullet away from being president > > Clinton/McCain then Sam? > > ~~~

Funny on Rummy

2006-04-16 Thread Gruss Gott
So, there's this whole deal about the generals dissin' ole Rummy. And, of course, his defense is that it's "just 2 or 3" when we all know where there's smoke, there's fire (you don't have to go much farther than Cobra II to see that). But, due to the absurdity of still having this guy in place, t

RE: Yet another attempt to f**k the consumer. US taxes online media downloads

2006-04-16 Thread Loathe
Here's a reason, the internet is stateless. Why should any state or country think that they have the right to tax it? -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, Apri

Uh, where is everybody?

2006-04-16 Thread Nick McClure
What happened did everybody leave and turn their computer off? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204315 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusi