Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
what an excellent point. Free as in freedom, too. I think that in many ways this discussion does boil down to the open source question -- total cost of ownership vs empowerment and spending in the local community rather than sending our money to some distant mololithic enterprise. Since our progra

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Gary Genner
Nick, >Money and Education? In terms of cost Moodle would cost us just as much >as Blackboard. In order to get Moodle to do the same things we do with >Blackboard it would cost us a lot of money. I'd say this depends very much on the size of your organisation, and what resources and skillsets yo

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Ben Scolls
Have you looked at other LMS? There are other options too. If you're into opensource, moodle and sakai are probably the ones to look into, since having a large userbase in the OSS world is important. However, if you are looking to save money, I'd be ultra realistic about the real costs involved.

RE: Whiteboard

2007-01-20 Thread Mike Tangorre
> From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Does anyone know of a little whiteboard app that can be integrated into > a browser? http://www.imaginationcubed.com/LaunchPage ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience F

Whiteboard

2007-01-20 Thread Todd Ashworth
All of this talk about "blackboard" reminds me .. Does anyone know of a little whiteboard app that can be integrated into a browser? Say, a few people show up on a web site and one wants to draw a picture the rest can see in real/semi-real time. I know there are other things, like IM programs

Re: HERE COMES THE BUS!

2007-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > oh yes, stand by for much right-wing frothing at the mouth, I dunno if > she can win but I have to say I think she has guts to run knowing what > she's in for. And she has to know. > I would vote for Hillary, no problemo. She's very smart, very driven, and very capable of making f

RE: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Nick McClure
We don't have anybody to do PHP or mySQL in IT, at least not for a major production system, we have some people that have played with it, but nobody that we could devote to something like that. MySQL Enterprise with 24x7 support costs more than we pay for our Clustered blackboard SQL Server. As f

RE: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Nick McClure
Well, 9 on main campus for phone and walkup support. The Med Center has their own helpdesk, and then some of the colleges have their own. I think distance learning has some too. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:54 PM > To: CF-

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/20/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wow -- we really should talk about this in a month or so. I'll probably have dug into it a bit more by then, know more, etc.. > The College of Pharmacy is using moodle, and I've been tasked with > > fleshing out/integrating the registration process

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
::nod:: ok. Wonder why they went WebCT here. So you have 9 helpdesk guys in all IT then. Makes sense. We're running it out of distance learning but that's because of the jjurisdictional issues. On 1/20/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, 9 that deal with password issues and other h

RE: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Nick McClure
Well, 9 that deal with password issues and other helpdesk related activities like email and general computer questions. But a high percentage is blackboard. We also contract to an offsite company for after hours helpdesk support. Also, we are Blackboard, not WebCT, WebCT was even more expensive at

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
wow -- we really should talk about this in a month or so. > The College of Pharmacy is using moodle, and I've been tasked with > fleshing out/integrating the registration process with our processes. ya it's amazing sometimes what a college can do by having students do stuff ::giggle:: > Give so

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/20/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Money and Education? In terms of cost Moodle would cost us just as much > as Blackboard. In order to get Moodle to do the same things we do with > Blackboard it would cost us a lot of money. I thought one could do anything with PHP and MySQL

Re: HERE COMES THE BUS!

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
oh yes, stand by for much right-wing frothing at the mouth, I dunno if she can win but I have to say I think she has guts to run knowing what she's in for. And she has to know. Dana On 1/20/07, Denny Valliant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/20/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > t

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
so it's ok for the software to be expensive, because everything else is? You know, it be work every penny. But I'll be delighted to cost it out and see where it taks us because from a user point of view -- yes I have have used it extensively as a student, through several versions -- WebCT totally

Re: HERE COMES THE BUS!

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/20/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > they would make a great team.. Not so sure about that. If it did happen, I'd lean toward O fer P and H for VP. That'd be pretty funny tho-- two birds with one stone: first woman that high, first- what? non-white? that high. This will be a f

Re: so what ever happened to that Republican/oil industry cabal?

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/20/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > DV wrote: > > These guys knew for years things needed to change, but still > > were like "give us a bunch of loot, cause of 9/11". Bah. > > Businesses have finally wised up to that and now airlines are having > to take a more a-custom

RE: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Nick McClure
Yes, I do, we pay around $140k a year for the enterprise version of the full academic suite based on around 30k FTE. But the software isn't the most expensive part. 10 servers, SAN Storage, Backup Tapes, Network equipment, Disaster Recovery and Staff cost far more than the software. We have one f

Re: HERE COMES THE BUS!

2007-01-20 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: Bush: Judges Unfit To Judge Law

2007-01-20 Thread Larry Lyons
> > Larry wrote: > > You mean that they should ignore case law and other decisions. > > The framers allowed for amendments to the Constitution. I thought > that point would be implicit - my mistake. More information on how > that works is here: > > http://en.wikipedia. or> g/wiki/United_States_

Re: Bush: Judges Unfit To Judge Law

2007-01-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>"were probably affected" > >Well there you have it. Lets change nation security procedures. > >On 1/19/07, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Probably affect since the government refused to release any information about the program to the judges so they could be the judge of who was affec

HERE COMES THE BUS!

2007-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
Obama is going to have a tough time stopping the bus! NEW YORK (Reuters) - Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton entered the 2008 U.S. presidential race on Saturday with a swipe at President George W. Bush as she capped years of speculation about her White House ambitions. "I'm in. And I'm in to

FW: Stem Cell Policy Hampering Research, NIH Official Says

2007-01-20 Thread Larry Lyons
It would seem that only the shrubbery thinks that stem cells research limits are OK these days: >From today's washington post. http://www.antiwrap.com/?1122 Stem Cell Policy Hampering Research, NIH Official Says By Rick Weiss Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, January 20, 2007; A04 The Na

Re: [CarTalk] 1000 HP Nissan Skyline

2007-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > god dman. > - Original Message - > From: "Gruss Gott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:31 PM > Subject: [CarTalk] 1000 HP Nissan Skyline > > > > While we all eagerly await the arrival of the new Nissan Skyline GTR, > > here is

Re: so what ever happened to that Republican/oil industry cabal?

2007-01-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> DV wrote: > These guys knew for years things needed to change, but still > were like "give us a bunch of loot, cause of 9/11". Bah. > Hmm ... yes and no. Yes, in that the airline biz model is only 25 years out of gov regulation and socialist habits die hard. I think the "realignment" that was

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
Yes but do you know what the licensing fees are? You could buy your very own tech support team for that. But anyway... this is merely personal research for me at this point. We defintely aren't doing anything with a live server and moodle any time real soon. I'd be interested in knowing whether th

RE: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Nick McClure
Money and Education? In terms of cost Moodle would cost us just as much as Blackboard. In order to get Moodle to do the same things we do with Blackboard it would cost us a lot of money. Then comes the tech support aspect, with Moodle who do I call when something doesn't work right? The man hours

Re: Man stupidity runs rampant

2007-01-20 Thread Paul Ihrig
cut & paste On 1/19/07, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, how did you get the song to post in your signature. did you paste it > in or is this an extension of what's playing in winamp or something??? > > On 1/19/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > i am canceling my un-

Re: so what ever happened to that Republican/oil industry cabal?

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
the trains barely run at all anymore. Though I have been taking that Railrunner; got to give Richardson credit for a good idea or two. ::mumble:: On 1/20/07, Denny Valliant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:. > On 1/19/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:at > > > > > Denny wrote: > > > I'd say it is

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Dana
naw, I've already trained them on the manana principle. And I haven't been had time for email all week, so they've had fresh exposure to the concept ;) check out that 12% thread. Anyway, ya, I'm still here... I'd like that contact info -- or even just the meeting info -- but there is no rush. If t

Re: moodle?

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/19/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ps are you guys using moodle somewhere? If so I'd like some details, > offlist if you prefer. That would definitely be seen as a plus by > whoever eventually makes that decision. We're running a couple of courses, but I didn't set them up. I'm just

Re: so what ever happened to that Republican/oil industry cabal?

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/19/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Denny wrote: > > I'd say it is one of the badder-ones. Like diamonds. Yeck! > > > > Ha! I wouldn't say it's like the CSO/DTC which is an explicit > monopoly, but more an implicit monopoly. > > There's such a thing as collusion of interest s

Re: Bush: Judges Unfit To Judge Law

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/19/07, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > Actually several of the people who did bring suit were probably affected > by the surveillance - various academics and journalists for instance with > contacts with members of various Islamicist parties for instance. > > So there is demo

Re: What a piece of SH*T this company is

2007-01-20 Thread Loathe
Jesus. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Sorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: What a piece of SH*T this company is > Read this today on Snopes. This company should be ashamed of itself. > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/apo.a

Re: Icon Buffet - Dresden Auto

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/18/07, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone have a use for these icons yet? If I build it, will they come? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-plat

Re: [CarTalk] 1000 HP Nissan Skyline

2007-01-20 Thread Loathe
god dman. - Original Message - From: "Gruss Gott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:31 PM Subject: [CarTalk] 1000 HP Nissan Skyline > While we all eagerly await the arrival of the new Nissan Skyline GTR, > here is something that should keep us ca

Re: smallville...WTF

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/18/07, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok so this is purely a comic geek rant. > LOL! What's your stance on nipples, and swimsuit marvel issues? ;] Rock on, Charlie. Oh, and thanks for spoiling the big kiss scene! j/k =] ~

Re: Little Tango

2007-01-20 Thread Denny Valliant
On 1/16/07, Mike Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... > 1 for each of her 5 kids. I guess the norm today is two. The images, > especially the 4D ones, are incredible. GE not only makes awesome bombs, > they make cool ultrasound machines! LOL We had to pay extra to get the cool ones. Went