Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Thanks!! >You deserve extra special muffins for that! Yeah, what a great idea! I was going to try and pick up some of those Asimov books at my local used book store, but this is even better! --- Mary Jo ~| Upgrade to

Re: Evolution of Math

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
My children's school system actively *discourages* rote learning of basic math facts. No times tables by heart, etc. Instead, about 4 years ago they adopted Turk, a supplemental program, as the math curriculum. the e-mail tag on the District Math "Director's" e-mail? "Learning stops when memoriza

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > From 2002 – 2005 it goes up. Are you trying to say Kyoto has done more > harm than good? I'm not, just that it might not be the solution. > No, I'm telling you what the data mathematically says but you don't the education to understand what I'm telling you. I'll try it one last tim

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
Sorry if I offended anyone, I'm a little grumpy. I think I need a banana. A lot of folks here seem to take this very serious while I'm just having fun with the spirit of debate. That doesn't mean I'm trolling, just look to have a discussion that will create research and we'll all gain from it. I fi

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
Nanoengineered concrete could cut CO2 emissions http://www.huliq.com/8556/nanoengineered-concrete-could-cut-co2-emissions ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIA

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
hehehehehe You playing with that fuzzy math? This nice images CLEARLY shows it's gone up, down, up, down, up… http://www.eea.europa.eu/pressroom/newsreleases/Images/ghg2006_1.jpg Kyoto was signed in 1998 and implemented in 2002. >From 2002 – 2005 it goes up. Are you trying to say Kyoto has done m

Re: Evolution of Math

2007-02-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
Sadly, math is a dying skill. Your 1990 example is pretty funny. There are classes like that. I used to be a math teacher many years ago. You would be surprised at what text books incorporate these days. One example was sweat shops in Honderas and the profit the American owners were making. ~

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I think it says it went up .3% but transportation went up .6% from the > year before. If you look at the graph, you'll see it's starting to > looks like a hockey stick :) > The data clearly shows that, overall, the rate of increase of GHG has slowed decade over decade. In other wor

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
Hate is such a striong word :) Here's some more fun reading http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html OK, the Mars thing is stupid, but a lot of it is good stuff. On 2/2/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam, > > I hate to tell you this, but...you aren't debunking a thing. It's a > fact that comm

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
I think it says it went up .3% but transportation went up .6% from the year before. If you look at the graph, you'll see it's starting to looks like a hockey stick :) On 2/2/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What this data says and the graph shows is that Kyoto is, in fact, > working.

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > http://www.eea.europa.eu/pressroom/newsreleases/GHG2006-en > What this data says and the graph shows is that Kyoto is, in fact, working. Specifically this statement contains that fact: "Emissions of CO2, the most problematic GHG, were 4.4% above 1990 levels for the EU-15. Compared

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
Sam, I hate to tell you this, but...you aren't debunking a thing. It's a fact that committees are of[ten wrong, but the error they are prone to is inertia and over-conservatism. So when a committee of scientists makes a categorical statement, I'm inclined to think there 's some evidence. That ne

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
On 2/2/07, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > with unproven opinions, neat. If I can debunk an unproven opinion with another unproven opinion than I've made my point. > heh, you're on the religious side of this argument. you've got no > science on your side. No, I'm asking for scientific

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You see to be arguing this. I don't see you making points about taking a > measured and cautious approach to reducing human's contribution to CO2. All > I see is attempts to refute that it is even happening. Just the other day I mentioned Los

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
"The summary actually is a semipolitical document negotiated by delegates from 150 governments. Evidently, the IPCC, which prides itself on being strictly scientific and policy-neutral, wants to make its report politically correct." Nope, not by just posting it. But it might if I knew who said

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
I haven't even seen the report! But this editorial implies that the fact that is it s a consensus document means that it is political! On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought my posting this: > > "The summary actually is a semipolitical document negotiated by > delegates from 150 gov

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
Yes please :) On 2/2/07, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm saying do nothing, just that Kyoto might not be the answwer. > > I'm going to assume that you meant to say "I'm [not] saying do nothing..." > > ~| Upgrade

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
It's always our fault :) On 2/2/07, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And we've (the US) have had a huge hand in that by backing out. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create po

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=11676 On 2/2/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ::eye roll:: either break out some actual science or shut up, Sam. > > On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A true worshiper > > > > ~~

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
> No, I'm showing that all the facts your arguments are based on are > actually unproven opinions. with unproven opinions, neat. > Reminds me of the religion vs science arguments often taking place on this > list. heh, you're on the religious side of this argument. you've got no science on your

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
I thought my posting this: "The summary actually is a semipolitical document negotiated by delegates from 150 governments. Evidently, the IPCC, which prides itself on being strictly scientific and policy-neutral, wants to make its report politically correct." would have cast doubt on the accuracy

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
No, I'm showing that all the facts your arguments are based on are actually unproven opinions. Not by providing unproven opinions you are not! -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | --

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
how are you proving anything of the kind? You say that everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot or has some private agenda, and post an editorial that does the same. Let me channel Larry for a moment. Peer Reviewed research. Give me some. On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, I'm show

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
> I'm saying do nothing, just that Kyoto might not be the answwer. I'm going to assume that you meant to say "I'm [not] saying do nothing..." -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
"Again, nobody ever said do anything." You see to be arguing this. I don't see you making points about taking a measured and cautious approach to reducing human's contribution to CO2. All I see is attempts to refute that it is even happening. I interpret that as; if it is not happening then w

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
> Again, nobody ever said do nothing. > We're supposed to take dramatic actions because of this so called > imminent threat, getting rid of gasoline, closing factories, using our > food supply to power cars, what if it's BS. Then we have clean(er) cars, no gasoline, factories that aren't massiv

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
No, I'm showing that all the facts your arguments are based on are actually unproven opinions. Reminds me of the religion vs science arguments often taking place on this list. On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A true worshiper > > Again kettle and pot, you are not arguing you ca

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
::eye roll:: either break out some actual science or shut up, Sam. On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A true worshiper > > > On 2/2/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well ya according to scientist there is a 5% or so chance that you > > could be right. it could happen I suppose. Sto

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
http://www.eea.europa.eu/pressroom/newsreleases/GHG2006-en It's complicated but this chart shows it having the opposite effect. http://org.eea.europa.eu/documents/newsreleases/Images/ghg2006_1.jpg On 2/2/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nick wrote: > > OK wait, Kyoto task governments

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
I am just trying to understand his point. If he has one. On 2/2/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > so let's see, we as the leading cause of emissions should do nothing > > because (according to whatever warped non-evidence you have for this) > > whatever Europe is doing

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
> Sounds to me like Kyoto isn't working If the countries that signed are not enforcing the policies, it is not the treaty that has failed but the signatories. And we've (the US) have had a huge hand in that by backing out. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that woul

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
> A true worshiper Raven. Crow. (Ian already used Pot/Kettle) :-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
A true worshiper Again kettle and pot, you are not arguing you case. You are just trying to brow beat everybody to agree with you by providing opinions that agree with you. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | -

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
Again, nobody ever said do nothing. We're supposed to take dramatic actions because of this so called imminent threat, getting rid of gasoline, closing factories, using our food supply to power cars, what if it's BS. Then we screwed up. Remember the Ice age of the 70's? On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Nick wrote: > OK wait, Kyoto task governments with forcing business to lower emissions by > certain levels, the emissions haven't gone down Has increase slowed? ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integr

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
A true worshiper On 2/2/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well ya according to scientist there is a 5% or so chance that you > could be right. it could happen I suppose. Stopped clocks and all. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Nick McClure
OK wait, Kyoto task governments with forcing business to lower emissions by certain levels, the emissions haven't gone down, businesses aren't planning to do so, and the governments aren't forcing them. Sounds to me like Kyoto isn't working, maybe if bombed countries until either they lowered emis

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Ihrig
going on a cruise tomorrow! bringing Brian Lumleys Mythos Omnibus Volumes 1 &2. cant wait to read about Deep Ones & mighty Cthulhu, while tranversing the Atlantic. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integ

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
I'm saying do nothing, just that Kyoto might not be the answwer. On 2/2/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so let's see, we as the leading cause of emissions should do nothing > because (according to whatever warped non-evidence you have for this) > whatever Europe is doing is not solving the

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
It means forcing industry to change hasn't helped. OR just a random unsupported thought. That the proper changes have not been put into place yet. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | --

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > It means forcing industry to change hasn't helped. > How so? Explain mathematically how that's true. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs h

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
We know humans increase CO2, we don't know if that's changing the weather. And we don't know that it is NOT changing the weather either. So lets take a look at the alternate options. Human CO2 is a significant contributor to Global Warming. We do nothing. Downside: We suffer greatly when the

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > We know humans increase CO2, we don't know if that's changing the weather. > That's right and true. But then you ruined your streak by going on to imply that because emissions didn't go down (if that's true) this meant Kyoto wasn't working. In truth, that fact means nothing.

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
It means forcing industry to change hasn't helped. On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "That they didn't go down? Hello?" > > And the conclusion you are drawing from this fact is what? McFly ~| Upgrade to Ado

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > so let's see, we as the leading cause of emissions should do nothing > because (according to whatever warped non-evidence you have for this) > whatever Europe is doing is not solving the problem? > How do we know that? The fact that emissions didn't go down says nothing whatsoever

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
We know humans increase CO2, we don't know if that's changing the weather. On 2/2/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's a REALLY interesting response on both points. The first one, > that humans are the definitively the cause of Global Warming, I agree > with: there is no proof. >

Now THIS is Gangsta

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
Ex-secretary of state wows with pinstripes For the man who has everything, a pinstripe suit. But not just any pinstripes – personalized pinstripes. Former Secretary of State George Shultz was the guest of honor Friday at the U.S. Institute of Peace dinner at the Hay-Adams Hotel in Washington. The

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
well ya according to scientist there is a 5% or so chance that you could be right. it could happen I suppose. Stopped clocks and all. On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Why is everything so clear-cut to you?" > > Kettle meet Pot, Pot

Re: I Love Asimov books

2007-02-02 Thread Ben Doom
I read it years ago. I thought it was pretty damn funny. --Ben Ian Skinner wrote: > you could also start with a collection of his essays ans short stories, just > to get the flavor. > > > Who's here that has read Asimov's practice Doctorial Thesis. One of the > funniest things I ever read.

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
so let's see, we as the leading cause of emissions should do nothing because (according to whatever warped non-evidence you have for this) whatever Europe is doing is not solving the problem? On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Why is

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ian wrote: > "That they didn't go down? Hello?" > > And the conclusion you are drawing from this fact is what? McFly > Exactly - there's so many analytical problems with that statement I was surprised to hear it. Until ... ~~

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
"That they didn't go down? Hello?" And the conclusion you are drawing from this fact is what? McFly -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - "C code. C code run. Run code run.

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I'm thinking it's a Dilbert moment. > DILBERT'S MOM: "... but Doctor ... is he going to be alright?? Is he going to have a normal life???" DOCTOR: "I'm afraid not not ma'am. He's got the knack. He's going to be an engineer." DILBERT'S MOM:" NOOO!" ~

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > > "By the way, Europe's CO2 emissions have gone up since Kyoto." > > And that means what? > > That they didn't go down? Hello? > That's a REALLY interesting response on both points. The first one, that humans are the definitively the cause of Global Warming, I agree with: there is

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
On 2/2/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ha! That's funny because I make my living explaining to others how to > do just that. So, no, people don't usually explain that to me, > because it's my job to explain it to them. > > Ironic, huh? I'm thinking it's a Dilbert moment. ~

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Why is everything so clear-cut to you?" > Kettle meet Pot, Pot meet Kettle. This thread is about how insane you must be not to think humans cause global warming. I'm just pointing out it's NOT CLEAR-CUT. DUH! > "By the way, Europe's CO2 emissi

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Did anyone ever explain to you > about thinking outside the box? > Ha! That's funny because I make my living explaining to others how to do just that. So, no, people don't usually explain that to me, because it's my job to explain it to them. Ironic, huh? ~~~

Re: I Love Asimov books

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
I haven't read it, but I read something he wrote about it. It apparently took them a long time to get the joke? On 2/2/07, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you could also start with a collection of his essays ans short stories, just > to get the flavor. > > > Who's here that has read Asi

RE: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
"Why is everything so clear-cut to you?" Kettle meet Pot, Pot meet Kettle. "By the way, Europe's CO2 emissions have gone up since Kyoto." And that means what? -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko

RE: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Scott Mulholland
There a very similar service called bookmooch that is worth checking out as well: http://www.bookmooch.com/ It was created by the guy who created Lyris. Similar setup, you earn/cash in points. -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007

Re: We have such a bad rep ...

2007-02-02 Thread Ben Doom
I have no idea. Now, I'm going to go play with my new iBook, which is a Mac, which were named after raincoats. --Ben PS Don't ask about the iBook. It's pretend. Dana wrote: > my favorite question -- which computer is named after a fruit? > > On 2/2/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
That is so cute; it's like the third grade version of economics. Why is everything so clear-cut to you? Did anyone ever explain to you about thinking outside the box? By the way, Europe's CO2 emissions have gone up since Kyoto. On 2/2/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam is just parro

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Ben Doom
Sorry. Saying you can't read in a text-based community... I just assumed you were going for irony. --Ben Tony wrote: > no really. > i cant read. > > i can read small short bits of stuff, but thats about it. > > i lose interest within minutes, and have trouble going from > one line to the next

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> EriKa wrote: > Now this is awesome! I have over 100 paperbacks I dont want anymore ... It really is. And sending them is SUPER easy if you have a printer - even for me who hates stuff like this. Just press print, wrap the book, paste the stamps, dump in the mail box. ~

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Tony
no really. i cant read. i can read small short bits of stuff, but thats about it. i lose interest within minutes, and have trouble going from one line to the next... tw On 2/2/07, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There, there. Let me call OG Readmore and set up an afterschool > special.

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > check out the adjectives. Hell, check out the verbs ;) Bufflaoed? > Panicky? Greatest? steadfast? Naw, no bias here. > Sam is just parroting the BigBusiness group think that's historically been championed by the Republicans. Change costs money and requires resources, usually resou

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Ben Doom
There, there. Let me call OG Readmore and set up an afterschool special. It will all be all right. --Ben Tony wrote: > i wish i could read. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powe

RE: I Love Asimov books

2007-02-02 Thread Ian Skinner
you could also start with a collection of his essays ans short stories, just to get the flavor. Who's here that has read Asimov's practice Doctorial Thesis. One of the funniest things I ever read. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA -

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread G Money
You read Stephen King's "The Cell"? Just finished it...not his best work by far, but naturally I was drawn to the plot line :) On 2/2/07, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > all you negative people :P Get out of my thread ... > > I have the entire collection. (Among an entire Steven Ki

Re: We have such a bad rep ...

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
my favorite question -- which computer is named after a fruit? On 2/2/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's a copycat! What is that game show where they do "man-on-the-street" > interviews and the contestants have to guess whether the person will know > the answers to particular questi

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Jerry Johnson
I ended up sending a box of books to a developer in New Orleans, and about 7 boxes of books to Iraq. But this _is_ a great thing. On 2/2/07, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now this is awesome! I have over 100 paperbacks I dont want anymore ... I > keep ALL my hardcovers and a few

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Tony
i wish i could read. On 2/2/07, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now this is awesome! I have over 100 paperbacks I dont want anymore ... I > keep ALL my hardcovers and a few paperbacks, but some paperbacks are > "disposable" in my mind. > So this is perfect. I was just going to Freecy

Re: I Love Asimov books

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
you could also start with a collection of his essays ans short stories, just to get the flavor. On 2/2/07, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It might have been a painting of "dogs playing poker", but it is still a > painting by Peale. > > Even his bad stories are readable. > > But, I am n

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Erika L. Walker
Now this is awesome! I have over 100 paperbacks I dont want anymore ... I keep ALL my hardcovers and a few paperbacks, but some paperbacks are "disposable" in my mind. So this is perfect. I was just going to Freecycle the lot, but this is much better! Thanks!! You deserve extra special muf

Re: I Love Asimov books

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
highly recommended On 2/1/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Asimov books are cool. > > Hhm, not sure when I will have free time to do some reading again, but always > looking for something good and haven't read any of his stuff yet. What would > you recommend for a newbie? > > MJ

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
you're serious? You didn't just put these in to troll? And you really think these refute something? *It may well turn out that George W. Bush's greatest service to the country won't *involve terrorism or Iraq at all, but his steadfast refusal to be buffaloed into joining t*he panicky consensus on

Re: So, the huge bomb scare in Boston ...

2007-02-02 Thread Cameron Childress
I actually suspect it's simpler than that. If these things ran on regular ole batteries and were up for several weeks, even tually they would run out of power and the lights would turn off. I suspect the Boston ones were simply put up first - they looked innocent till all the batteries died (aro

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> WillBo wrote: > > Shoot the messenger if you don't like the message. > > I didn't call you or American Thinker crazy and I actually did provide > links to counter the claims of the link you provided. Links that point > to real live peer reviewed science. > 3 guys are in an airplane: A pilot, a

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
Albatross! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-plat

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > So we use ethanol because it burns cleaner but uses up more energy, > and now Mexico doesn't have enough corn to make tortillas. Did we > solve a problem or create more. If there was a point in that beyond "change carries risk" I didn't get it. Yes, making tough choices is ... toug

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
> Shoot the messenger if you don't like the message. I didn't call you or American Thinker crazy and I actually did provide links to counter the claims of the link you provided. Links that point to real live peer reviewed science. Whatever. oh and thanks for the Religion of Global Warming artic

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> EriKa wrote: > I have the entire collection. (Among an entire Steven King, Patricia > Cornwell, John Grisham and Dick Frances collections to name a few) I enjoy > the books. I have a library I'm proud of. > My wife is WAY into it too (no pre-order ... yet), although we don't save any of our "lei

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
So we use ethanol because it burns cleaner but uses up more energy, and now Mexico doesn't have enough corn to make tortillas. Did we solve a problem or create more. We can lower emmisions but if we play the game that the world ends in ten years we might pick the wrong solution. Do we even use Ira

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
> I see you pick and choose your scientists. And you don't? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
On 2/2/07, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... links... > > > http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/resisting_global_warming_panic.html > > oh and look, as one would expect from a right-wing site, the hockey > stick "myth" is exploded! Shoot the messenger if you don't like the mes

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > They have not. Global Warming is common and real, mans causing it is a > weak theory with no proof. > But, in the end, who cares who's to blame? It's happening and it's going to have drastic consequences so we'd all be smart to act now and act big; we may not get a second chance.

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Erika L. Walker
all you negative people :P Get out of my thread ... I have the entire collection. (Among an entire Steven King, Patricia Cornwell, John Grisham and Dick Frances collections to name a few) I enjoy the books. I have a library I'm proud of. I usually always look for bargains and try never to pay fu

Evolution of Math

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
*Math: 1950 - 2006 ** Last week I purchased a burger at Burger King for $1.58. The counter girl took my $2 and was digging for my change when I pulled 8 cents from my pocket and gave it to her. She stood there, holding the nickel and 3 pennies, while looking at the screen on her register. I sensed

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>nah, CostCo usually has them the first day or so at a substantially lower >price. Bigger problem IMO is that if you pre-order from Amazon, you have to pay shipping...order put something else on the order to get it over $25. Anything I don't need for several months is probably something I should

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
my bad. Credible links? On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.nysun.com/article/47920 > http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/resisting_global_warming_panic.html > > On 2/2/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok I'll play... link? > > > > On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

Re: huge jrun_iis6_wildcard logs

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Ihrig
you could do what i did, and unistal & re-instal iis. that changed my whole scope of problems in 1 swift blow On 2/2/07, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Elliot, the only part of your message that pertains to this list is > "crazy thing", but it was used in the wrong context! >

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
pssst Harry/Ron/Hermione dies. ooops... sorry... Spoiler alert. ;-) > I just did my pre-order. Anyone else? :) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~~

Re: We have such a bad rep ...

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
Street Smarts On 2/2/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's a copycat! What is that game show where they do "man-on-the-street" > interviews and the contestants have to guess whether the person will know > the answers to particular question? I love that show! > > Q: Who is the President

Re: We have such a bad rep ...

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Munn
He's a copycat! What is that game show where they do "man-on-the-street" interviews and the contestants have to guess whether the person will know the answers to particular question? I love that show! Q: Who is the President of the United States? A: George Washington? I dunno. On 2/2/07, Erika w

Re: Harry Potter ...

2007-02-02 Thread Robert Munn
I like to wait a few days after for the mania to die down... On 2/2/07, Erika wrote: > > I just did my pre-order. Anyone else? :) > > -- --- Robert Munn www.funkymojo.com ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experi

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread William Bowen
... links... > http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/resisting_global_warming_panic.html oh and look, as one would expect from a right-wing site, the hockey stick "myth" is exploded! So much fun!! Oh, here's one... http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=11 ...Where the actual science is no

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Sam
http://www.nysun.com/article/47920 http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/01/resisting_global_warming_panic.html On 2/2/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok I'll play... link? > > On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They have not. Global Warming is common and real, mans causing it is a

Re: Rush Limbaugh nominated for Nobel Prize

2007-02-02 Thread G Money
"University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;" That clause right there pretty much blows it wide open. On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not true. > Qualified Nominators

Re: the definition of insanity

2007-02-02 Thread Dana
ok I'll play... link? On 2/2/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They have not. Global Warming is common and real, mans causing it is a > weak theory with no proof. > > On 2/2/07, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's be fair. The UN doesn't hate our freedom, but they don't CARE about it >

Re: huge jrun_iis6_wildcard logs

2007-02-02 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Sorry Elliot, the only part of your message that pertains to this list is "crazy thing", but it was used in the wrong context! seriously though, you'd probably get a better response from CF-Talk on this one. :) On 2/2/07, Elliott Kayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a CF 7.2 server and i

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