Re: I can't wait for this project to be over

2008-07-22 Thread Robert Munn
Yeah, it's SOAP that bugs me. REST is far more practical. What do they say about SOAP? It's all washed up ... badda bing! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Zaphod wrote: > I've never had a problem with simple xml REST services, it's anything > that involves the phrase SOAP that gives me fits. > T

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
LOL. I remember those gaffes. Great stuff. Sam wrote: > He'd also know the president serves the 58 states for 8-10 years and > could easily pick out the fallen heroes in the audience. > :) > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Sam
He'd also know the president serves the 58 states for 8-10 years and could easily pick out the fallen heroes in the audience. :) On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If he knew how to use the Internet he might, you know, be able to look up > which countries bord

Re: More species in "Spore" than on Earth.

2008-07-22 Thread Greg Morphis
Looks cool but Sony's presentation sucked at E3. It wasn't as bad as Nintendo's but it failed in comparison to Mcrosoft's. Fallout 3 is going to be an awesome game!!! Where else can you frag someone with teddy bears? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find

More species in "Spore" than on Earth.

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Davis
I find this so giddily awesome: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hkRb0z0xS4kYqr3MVgFN6_eOspsA It took 18 days for people, using the $10 "Spore Creature Creator", to create species equal to the number of known species on Earth. The number is currently just under 2.1 million uploads in less tha

Re: I can't wait for this project to be over

2008-07-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Zaphod wrote: >> Been working 70 hours a week for the last 3 weeks to get this frickin >> application up. 80% of that time has been spent trying to figure out the >> stupid ass .net web servi

RE: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Garza
Bingo! -Original Message- Meanwhile, I only need to know one thing about Obama - he's a socialist, and I don't vote for socialists. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Vivec wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tKiFw9x6E&feature=related > > 10 things you should know about McCain. > I

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Robert Munn
Meanwhile, I only need to know one thing about Obama - he's a socialist, and I don't vote for socialists. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Vivec wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tKiFw9x6E&feature=related > > 10 things you should know about McCain. > If you click More Info in the top righ

RE: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:27 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, Ju

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Vivec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-tKiFw9x6E&feature=related 10 things you should know about McCain. If you click More Info in the top right there is a drop down list of the sources for each statement. 2008/7/22 Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If he knew how to use the Internet he might, you kno

RE: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate > > I would love to see a list of past Presidents who could type. That's a > short list, I guarantee

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sgt Sorge wrote: > Your money analogy does not wash with me since it cannot be applied to > this scenario. In the context of this conversation, I think you're suspending reality on this one. A large American presence in Iraq is impossible to continue for much longer for all kinds of reasons tha

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Loathe
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=63491&archive=true "The battle occurred just after dawn at a temporary vehicle patrol base near Wanat." Larry Lyons wrote: > Where did you get that tidbit of information, most of the information I found > made no mention of that. What I fou

Re: The Bush Economy Home Game

2008-07-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Why haven't you sold all of your liquid assets for hard assets, and moved > out to a cabin in the mountains of Montana yet? > > You can sit in a rocking chair, holding a shotgun, clutching bags of cold, > hard cash, muttering about the end of the world. > What makes you think I'm

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Robert Munn
I would love to see a list of past Presidents who could type. That's a short list, I guarantee it. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Jim wrote: > What does worry me is a man who's asking to be executive administrator of > our nation that has clearly not mastered the administration skills of the >

Re: Christian the lion.

2008-07-22 Thread Loathe
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/christian.asp This one is actually true :) William Bowen wrote: >> it's been photoshopped > > LOLz!!!11! > > They're getting pretty good at it... ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the m

Re: Christian the lion.

2008-07-22 Thread William Bowen
> it's been photoshopped LOLz!!!11! They're getting pretty good at it... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: Christian the lion.

2008-07-22 Thread Maxwell Appleton
it's been photoshopped On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sosome guys got a Lion. And then they reintroduced him to the wild > when he got too big. > Then years later they decided to visit their little 'pet' in the wild. > A Darwinian moment?? > > Check the vi

Re: Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Ian Skinner
Cameron Childress wrote: > Who knows though - it might be cheaper to buy and build over right of > way in the boonies than it is in an urban city. > > -Cameron The sad thing is, I bet a lot of these urban areas probably had something like this a century ago. At least I know, here in Sacramento

Re: Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Cameron Childress
Yes, stops at town centers aren't a badidea. I suspect it's easier to *start* in an area that's more densely populated than North Ga. Not that much of rural Ga's population isn't "dense", it's just a different sort of "dense". ;) Who knows though - it might be cheaper to buy and build over righ

RE: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:35 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate > > >This smacks of elitism :) Just becuase we can understand these things > does > >not mean the bu

Re: Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Erika L. Walker
Nah. I lived a stones throw outside NYC. The public transit is not as good as London. Not sure it ever will be. Maybe other cities are quite different, but I did base my wish on having already experienced NYC's excuse for public transit In the UK, since I have direct experience with this, at l

Christian the lion.

2008-07-22 Thread Vivec
Sosome guys got a Lion. And then they reintroduced him to the wild when he got too big. Then years later they decided to visit their little 'pet' in the wild. A Darwinian moment?? Check the video to find out :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYbFQFXG0U ~

Re: Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Cameron Childress
Most of the densely populated cities in America do. It's sprawl that makes it economically unfeasible to construct transit to all those burbs. NYC, Chicago, Boston, Bay Area - all have good transit - because they have the density required. I know you aren't suggesting this, but I always laugh wh

Re: Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Erika L. Walker
I *WISH* we had transportation here like the UK and most of Europe does. I would of visited downtown Atlanta a lot more if had been easier to get in and out of. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, doesn't apply to everyone as an individual, but

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread William Bowen
> They all do it. Surely not!?! -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
Your money analogy does not wash with me since it cannot be applied to this scenario. In the context of this conversation, I say it is careless to say we plan to surrender in X months. Obama says he wants to be as careful coming out as we were careless going in, that means that when the situati

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Cameron Childress
McCain: "Yes, of course! The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch! 'Tis one of the sacred relics Brother Maynard carries with him! Brother Maynard! Bring up the Holy Hand Grenade!" Obama: "Oh, it's just a harmless little bunny" On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > y

Re: Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fascinating > > > > However, if I was a commuter, I would definitely move intown as well. I > would rather walk or ride a bike to work than do any kind of commute > whatsoever. Yeah, doesn't apply to everyone as an

Re: Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Erika L. Walker
fascinating However, if I was a commuter, I would definitely move intown as well. I would rather walk or ride a bike to work than do any kind of commute whatsoever. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thought some might find this article interes

Re: Ernie and Bert keep it Gangsta

2008-07-22 Thread Cameron Childress
That is fantastic. In that same vein, a patriotic muppet song starring "Sam the All American Eagle" in which he starts by asking "This will be on the World Wide Web? Is there any way just to put it on the American part?" http://hillbillyrave.blogspot.com/2008/07/unfrul-your-flag.html Stick arou

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Robert Munn
you apparently never saw Monty Python's Holy Grail On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Gruss wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: >> Q: Senator Obama, what is your strategic plan for Iraq? >> >> Obama: Run away! Run away some more! > > Implicit in "run away" is "from X" Since you can't even articulate > the miss

Re: The Bush Economy Home Game

2008-07-22 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:02 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just make sure you keep an internet connection, so I can keep receiving > these awesome end of the world scenarios...they brighten my mornings :) My bank collapsed a year of so ago. No really, they demolished the building to b

Suburban Atlanta vs Downtown - downtown wins

2008-07-22 Thread Cameron Childress
Thought some might find this article interesting. I'll start by saying this isn't about your city, and your living situation is certainly different, it's about Atlanta and specifically about the areas I live in - the "Old Fourth Ward" it mentioned is directly across the railroad tracks (yes, reall

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Tony
bush has cause US, AMERICANS to feel anti-american at times. i dont have to look elsewhere, ive felt it inside my body. thanks tho sam, great try. -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM, sam morris <[EM

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread sam morris
That's antidotal. I believe this notion that Bush caused anti-Americanism is naive. Read: Anti-Americanism Is Mostly Hype - David Gothard http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121417762529095457.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Here's a blurb. You would not know from these surveys, of course, that anti-A

Re: The Bush Economy Home Game

2008-07-22 Thread G Money
Why haven't you sold all of your liquid assets for hard assets, and moved out to a cabin in the mountains of Montana yet? You can sit in a rocking chair, holding a shotgun, clutching bags of cold, hard cash, muttering about the end of the world. Just make sure you keep an internet connection, so

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Loathe
No, I think we buy them from an established trade partner, and sometime ally. To be honest considering the amount of money and life we've spent in Europe, Asia, Africa and South America over the years I feel as though many of our traditional allies have abandoned us. Germany, France, Austria,

The Bush Economy Home Game

2008-07-22 Thread Gruss Gott
So here's how you can play at home - follow along with what's happening daily. Here's the depression scenario: (1.) The collapse of bond insurers (MBIA, Ambac, FGIC and others). They have guaranteed billions in collateralized debt obligations (CDOs) which are becoming worthless. (2.) The banks t

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread William Bowen
> But when the man is so out of touch that he cannot even figure out how to > send an email, and > then he's going to be making major decisions about IP and tech innovation, > doesn't that worry > you? "going to be making"? *Has* been making! And continues to make. Bill is right that it is prim

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Lyons
>Trade partner != ally > You think that teh US buys a substantial part of its military supplies and vehicles from an enemy? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Tri

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sgt Sorge wrote: > But let's get back on track here. You say that he has a time line to > pull out troops, but the article I just sent you mentions no specifics > regarding when to pull out troops Yes, your article doesn't mention it; but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist - it does - and Obama

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Dana
you're drinking the koolaid. The Bushies think that because of Canada, recognizing a clusterfuck when it saw one, declined to be involved in Iraq. It has however significantly helped the us with things like intelligence on suspected terrorists. To its shame, it has given the US the benefit of the d

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wrong. look at the economy and then say that. look at who is the top > foreign supplier to the military. Who builds the LAV-25 and the Strykers > btw. Or where does a good portion of the munitions come from? What firm is > s

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Loathe
Trade partner != ally Larry Lyons wrote: > Wrong. look at the economy and then say that. look at who is the top foreign > supplier to the military. Who builds the LAV-25 and the Strykers btw. Or > where does a good portion of the munitions come from? What firm is servicing > most of the US flee

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Lyons
Wrong. look at the economy and then say that. look at who is the top foreign supplier to the military. Who builds the LAV-25 and the Strykers btw. Or where does a good portion of the munitions come from? What firm is servicing most of the US fleet of C-130's? I'll give you a hint, its a Canadian

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Bruce Sorge
But let's get back on track here. You say that he has a time line to pull out troops, but the article I just sent you mentions no specifics regarding when to pull out troops, merely when the security situation permits. McCain wants the same thing. Gruss Gott wrote: > > Obama submitted an opini

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Tony
agreed. he wouldnt be as bad as shrub, i dont think. *BUT* and thats a j-lo sized butt... i just wanna see someone/something/anything different when i think of my president... and mccain isnt that... obama is... change for the sake of change... as we all said years ago when thinking about poss

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and im not some hippie tree hugging please everyone love me... but id > prefer if the new and up and coming super powers had a good feeling for us > and our leadership... china, russia, india, australia... shrub did > enough to pis

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Tony
and im not some hippie tree hugging please everyone love me... but id prefer if the new and up and coming super powers had a good feeling for us and our leadership... china, russia, india, australia... shrub did enough to piss enough people off and id rather we fix that than perform worsening... an

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been talking with friends and relatives in throughout Canada. Most of > them have been generally pro American. Not any more. Many of them use the > same phrasing as was used with the Soviets 25 years ago. Most think tha

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Loathe
Canada probably isn't in our top 5 allies. We are closer Britain and Australia for sure. We've had diplomatic differences with Canada going back to the Vietnam war, and it continues even today with their harboring deserters from the military. Larry Lyons wrote: > I've been talking with friends

Ernie and Bert keep it Gangsta

2008-07-22 Thread Scott Stewart
Possibly NSFW (lyrics) http://www.celebully.com/bert-ernie-keep-it-gangsta-p971.html -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion®

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Lyons
>This smacks of elitism :) Just becuase we can understand these things does >not mean the bulk of americans can understand them. > >Just saying :) > > But when the man is so out of touch that he cannot even figure out how to send an email, and then he's going to be making major decisions about IP

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Larry Lyons
I've been talking with friends and relatives in throughout Canada. Most of them have been generally pro American. Not any more. Many of them use the same phrasing as was used with the Soviets 25 years ago. Most think that the US is the problem now, and is a major threat to world peace. Several o

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Dana
that is the old argument that it doesn't matter who we elect because they are all crooks. I think a lot of people *do* have something they have done that they would rather not discuss. Still, they don't run around portraying themselves as a bastions of integrity. That's the thing that pisses me of

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread G Money
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do. Especially these day when there's a lot of people doing a lot > of business overseas. The US has to become part of the "world > community" and that's going to mean doing things, and compromising on > things, that we d

Re: U.S. and Iraq Agree to Goals for Troop Cuts

2008-07-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Q: Senator Obama, what is your strategic plan for Iraq? > > Obama: Run away! Run away some more! Implicit in "run away" is "from X" Since you can't even articulate the mission much less objectives, this is a lie of omission on your part. Take some time to sit down and clear ou

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > But i'm not ringing my hands over the fact that they hate us, I do. Especially these day when there's a lot of people doing a lot of business overseas. The US has to become part of the "world community" and that's going to mean doing things, and compromising on things, that we

Re: this is what im talkin' about!!!

2008-07-22 Thread G Money
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > isnt it kinda proven that other countries could learn > a lot by following our lead? why not be the flagship for them? > rather than the bully? really? > > -- tony > Definitely, Tone, but people don't always like leaders either.

Re: Bobby Sherman turns 65 today

2008-07-22 Thread Erika L. Walker
Happy Birthday Bobby ! :) On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Adam Churvis < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's right, kids! Bobby Sherman turns 65 years *young* today. Probably > the only guy of his ilk from those days who isn't broke, has a stable happy > family life with grandchildren, isn't st

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Bill Wheatley
I firmly believe that you can dig deep into anyone and you will find things they did that they were ashamed of. Politician or private citizen alike. I'm sure obama has skeletons too. When they come out the right will rail against them just as hard as the left rails against mccains. It's hard to li

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Bill Wheatley
Thankfully the president doesn't have to make a rational call on youtube or copyright. That's congresses job. And it's already abundantly clear that a majority of members of congress know jack all squat about technology which rewards us with things like the DMCA. Fights over network neutrality and

Re: McCain admits to being a technological illiterate

2008-07-22 Thread Bill Wheatley
This smacks of elitism :) Just becuase we can understand these things does not mean the bulk of americans can understand them. Just saying :) On 7/17/08, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If only the President had an army of staff to handle mundane tasks > > for > > him, then it wouldn

Bobby Sherman turns 65 today

2008-07-22 Thread Adam Churvis
That's right, kids! Bobby Sherman turns 65 years *young* today. Probably the only guy of his ilk from those days who isn't broke, has a stable happy family life with grandchildren, isn't strung out on dope, isn't embarrassing himself on a reality show, hasn't spouted ugly racial slurs, hasn't bee