If we were restricting the government to buying real assets, I might be
inclined to go along. From what I've read, current mortgage values nation
wide come in around 11 trillion dollars. A little over 1% are currently in
default, they figure that up to 2% might be in default by the end of this
year
Adam, you are a very sweet guy. Can I paypal you some $$, since I'll never
get anythign together myself and I'd love to be a part of such a great
project?
- Original Message -
From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "cf-community"
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject:
yep. i have a box started with wipes (baby wipe boxes, one lysol wipe "can",
big box of foil packs), dvds, magazines, fiction paperbacks, rubber bands
and zip ties, 5 $10 calling cards, ziplock freezer bags, and sharpies.
any changes i would love to hear about
(I've sent similar packs through the
Yeah, I'm not convinced about that part of the plan. Here is a good analysis
of the problem:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/25/AR2008092503070.html
I like the idea of buying assets at fire sale prices and then forcing the
banks to limit dividends to preserve capital.
Very kind of you, my friend, but it's all taken care of.
Why don't we just wait until Bruce gives us feedback on what he likes best
and least, then someone else send him his next care package containing a
more refined collection of what he likes best, plus maybe a couple of extra
new things you th
adam, are you taking donations towards that ?
if so, gimme ur paypal info.
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Adam Churvis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bruce,
>
>
>
> I forgot to copy your email add
Bruce,
I forgot to copy your email address before I purged old email today, so I'm
posting this to the list.
I need to know if there are any size or weight restrictions (or number of
packages) on the care packages you receive. I saw some mentions in various
soldier-family-related forum pos
Ding!
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Cameron wrote:
> More like become a specialist in whatever SOX compliance equivilant
> comes of this... It's gonna be a whole new industry...
>
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More like become a specialist in whatever SOX compliance equivilant
comes of this... It's gonna be a whole new industry...
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah you can try and get contracts with all the new regulatory
> agencies
> this is sure to spawn.
>
> Ro
lol, there is plenty of opportunity in the private sector
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Loathe wrote:
> Yeah you can try and get contracts with all the new regulatory agencies
> this is sure to spawn.
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8
Yeah you can try and get contracts with all the new regulatory agencies
this is sure to spawn.
Robert Munn wrote:
> Hell of an opportunity if you can ride out the storm that's coming.
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Cameron wrote:
>
>> Great time to start a company eh?
>>
>
>
>
~~
Hell of an opportunity if you can ride out the storm that's coming.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Cameron wrote:
> Great time to start a company eh?
>
~|
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Great time to start a company eh?
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:57 PM, "Robert Munn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can you say 15% unemployment?
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Dana wrote:
>
>> yeah that is what I just heard on all things considered also. And
>> fuck
>> the markets is what I say. C
Shit happens.
Maybe people will stop asking for insane wages, maybe it will break the
unions in the U.S., maybe it will convince us not to send so many jobs
overseas, maybe we will open back up some factories at home to save on
shipping costs.
Robert Munn wrote:
> Can you say 15% unemployment?
Geez - I took some cash outta my ira to use for a downpay about a
month ago. I could drop that back into the market right about
tomorrow...
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:51 PM, "Robert Munn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just heard reports saying that the meeting at the White House was a
> complete
Reagan was a pragmatic guy. I think he would have understood that we are on
the edge of a cliff and if we fall off there is going to be severe,
long-lasting pain all around the country.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Loathe wrote:
> When the government becomes involved it's a bail out of an in
Can you say 15% unemployment?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Dana wrote:
> yeah that is what I just heard on all things considered also. And fuck
> the markets is what I say. Can you say shakeout?
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Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 soft
I don't have the numbers; the numbers don't exist. The "plan" is a
three-page document. I base my statement on Bernanke's statement to
Congress the day before yesterday.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Show me the math. You can't because you are wrong abou
When the government becomes involved it's a bail out of an industry man,
come on, christ you're a republican man. What would Regan do?
Robert Munn wrote:
> This is not a bailout. It is what is known in finance circles as vulture
> capitalism. You buy up distressed assets at a steep discount, wai
yeah that is what I just heard on all things considered also. And fuck
the markets is what I say. Can you say shakeout?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just heard reports saying that the meeting at the White House was a
> complete disaster and there is n
yeah except they are not going to pay market value for the assets.
They are going to pay more, on purpose. It is to weep :)
Seriously. Check it out.
Dana
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is not a bailout. It is what is known in finance circles as vul
I just heard reports saying that the meeting at the White House was a
complete disaster and there is no consensus on any plan. Hold on to your
hats, there is going to be hell to pay tomorrow morning when the markets
open.
~|
Adob
Show me the math. You can't because you are wrong about the basic math
behind the plan.
The only gain for firms that take up this plan is that they get to stay in
business. They are going to lose their shirts on this deal- having to sell
assets at ten or twenty cents on the dollar because they are
This is not a bailout. It is what is known in finance circles as vulture
capitalism. You buy up distressed assets at a steep discount, wait until the
market for those assets improves, and sell them at a handsome profit. Don't
take my word for it, ask Warren Buffett. The guy is the best investor of
We were told multiple rates, times and months payment amounts. I asked
what I thought the plain question of how much our monthly payment was to
be told $1900, I could and can afford that. A few months later we make
our first payment, and the next one comes for $3700. The $1900 was an
interes
700 billion to bail out private industry?
How could anyone that thinks of themselves as fiscally conservative,
libertarian, or my god even AMERICAN consider this is beyond my ken.
This is the opposite of what our government should be doing. People
make investments, they don't pay attention, pe
My sister worked for a very large, now defunct, mortgage company back in
2003/2004.
When she did underwriting, she came across loans that had the borrows income
stated at $30,000 and trying to purchase a $500,000 house. When she rejected
them, she was told it was be best for her to allow them thro
it still prevents you from borrowing again any time soon, so really
there is little incentive for anyone who can see past the next five
minutes to bail on a house if they can avoid it. As you say, blame is
pointless, but there is more afoot here than a few irresponsible
borrowers.
Keynes:
http://e
Oh yes they did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080924
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Democrats passed no legislation to force FM/FM to loan money to any
I would say that most people who can afford to pay their housing cost
will pay, but there is always a group of bogus borrowers who will take
advantage of easy credit to either live free . No money down and no
equity in the house - walking away is easy.
Not really sure what your point is about Key
Democrats passed no legislation to force FM/FM to loan money to anyone
who could not afford to borrow. Republicans passed no legislation to
stop it. Neither warnings of risk or wishing for public policy has
any force of law, and is in reality nothing more than public relations
rhetoric.
Blame i
If any of you receive an email message that has the subject line "Nude
pictures of Sarah Palin" then don't open it because it contains a virus.
On a related note, if you receive an email message that has the subject line
"Nude pictures of Hillary Clinton" then don't open it because it contains
>If it was me, I would just hang onto the vehicle. You might be able to find
>a private party to buy it - the low mileage is a big plus. I wouldn't even
>bother taking it to a dealer.
Well, I've had another interested party call me today, so I guess I just
finally got the vehicle down to the righ
pfft. I wish.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If this bailout is a failure, can I write off my share as some type of
> capital gains loss on my taxes? ;-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2
If this bailout is a failure, can I write off my share as some type of
capital gains loss on my taxes? ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:17 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: ru$h on da bank
a bailout in which the taxpayer has
bottom line though, they cannot afford the payments? If people can
afford to pay their housing costs usually they will, yes? If you agree
with that statement, then ask yourself what Keynes would say.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem in the mortgage
You do? Wow. Seiously folks, We two don't agree on much does this
not say perhaps the proposal genuinely fails the sniff test? Not to
mention the giggle test.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Agreed.
>
> Dana wrote:
>> yeah but I had a good hard look at
Prediction -- no. No you will not and no the treasury will not. It
will turn out to be regrettably impossible. Can't have transfer
payments you know. That would be socialism :)
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:43 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Robert Munn <[EMA
I saw that was proposed. Did it make the final document?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:28 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Right, and one of the conditions that the dems have gotten written into this
> deal, if what I'm reading is correct, is that WE, the taxpayers, would get
> to somehow rea
a bailout in which the taxpayer has all the risk and Wall Street has
all the gain? I really don't think so bub.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That smell is the Bush Derangement Kool-Aid. Get past your own partisan
> beliefs and look at the big picture.
Bush Called For Reform of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac 17 Times in 2008
Alone... Dems Ignored Warnings
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/09/20080919-15.html
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Democrats actively pushed for the conditions that allowed
> The beer will become sentient and take over the world in 2012.
> 0_0
I, for one, welcome our Hoppy overlords!
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
~|
You must not have read the article. Buffet likes the move from a purely
financial gain perspective FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. He thinks the Fed
will come out way, way ahead. As he said, he would make the play himself if
he had $700 billion in spare cash.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Gruss
Democrats actively pushed for the conditions that allowed Fannie and Freddie
to become the giant failures that they are today. Republicans, including
John McCain, warned of serious risks to the economy if something was not
done to rein in Fannie and Freddie's lending practices. Nothing was done,
an
> Sounds like *someone* needs a back rub.!
LOL
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dr
> Are you not paying attention? Clinton and gang caused this mess.
and you sir, are delusional.
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
~|
Adobe® ColdFu
Are you not paying attention? Clinton and gang caused this mess.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:29 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> positively Clintonian.
>
>
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important a
> Maybe they'll actually pay down
> the debt some, that would be a novel idea.
positively Clintonian.
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable."
- Carrie Fisher
~|
Adobe® C
> RoMunn wrote:
> as good as gold. He thinks the government will make a lot of money on this
> deal.
>
WOW! If only the Republicans could just be slightly more incompetent
at governance we might REALLY get rich!
Oops. I guess they can't get more incompetent.
ah, well.
If it was me, I would just hang onto the vehicle. You might be able to find
a private party to buy it - the low mileage is a big plus. I wouldn't even
bother taking it to a dealer.
-Original Message-
From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:2
> gMoney wrote:
> So your boy, Warren Buffett, came out in support of the government bailout
> today.that make anyone rethink their positions
>
> Gruss?
>
I already freaked out on Robert on another thread, but I'll just add this:
Both Mr. Buffet and myself support tax payer dollars that s
Agreed.
Dana wrote:
> yeah but I had a good hard look at the water before we got in the
> boat, and I know how to swim. Seriously, I say let those banks fail.
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:25 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
I can answer that for you- no, you will not get any of that money, at least
not directly. The money will go to the US Treasury, and Congress will get
their hands on it and spend it on something. Maybe they'll actually pay down
the debt some, that would be a novel idea.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:
> RoMunn wrote:
> Warren Buffet likes Paulson's plan:
>
Duh. Gee, I wonder what an investor would think of using tax payer
dollars to save the economy that investor is invested in ... ?
H...?
OF COURSE HE LIKES A TAX PAYER BAILOUT!
~
Check out gods girls
Judah McAuley wrote:
> Suicide Girls used to be awesome. I let my subscription lapse some time ago
> and they've continued to go downhill. The management moved to LA from
> Portland, some of the original people got forced out, it became much more
> corporate and they did a fin
http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Double-blow-as-big-guns.4520604.jp
PLANS for a £12 billion takeover of Halifax Bank of Scotland suffered
two huge blows last night as an influential Scots financier called for
a complete rethink of the deal and a leading analyst warned
shareholders' interests wou
You mean Buffett? With his Goldman Sachs investment, he just staked $5
billion on the bailout deal going through. I don't call that half-hearted
support.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Tony wrote:
> i feel like its kinda like a cheerleader for a team she knows isnt
> REALLY the winner
> but k
Yep. I'm a huge fan of Buffett, both Warren and Jimmy. Seriously,
I've modeled my portfolio on Buffett''s investment strategy for years.
He's rarely wrong.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:18 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So your boy, Warren Buffett, came out in support of the government bailout
>
i feel like its kinda like a cheerleader for a team she knows isnt
REALLY the winner
but knows that if she doesnt rah rah, the home crowd might revolt.
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:18 AM, <[EMAIL
The problem in the mortgage industry is that people applied for loans
with an adjustable rate interest that had low initial rates, but now
the higher rate and higher payments are kicking in and they can't
afford the payments. Credit has tightened and they cannot no longer
qualify for refinancing.
To commercial.
Casey Dougall wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> HOTTEST chicks on the internet.
>> by far!
>>
>> -- tony
>>
>
>
> Narni Shakers are next on my list! And they LOVE Drum n Bass
>
> http://www.myspace.com/thenarnishakers
>
>
>
~~
Ok, Simma down nah, boys! lol
-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:50 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Lindsay Lohan and Clay Aiken
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HOTTEST chicks on the i
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> HOTTEST chicks on the internet.
> by far!
>
> -- tony
>
Narni Shakers are next on my list! And they LOVE Drum n Bass
http://www.myspace.com/thenarnishakers
~~
im into the tat scene, not so much the hardcore or punk scene, but im
such a chameleon
i can do anything, anywhere, and be cool... but, i must say, it has
started to trascend all
genres... in fact... most of the COOL GIRLS these days, are totally
into it... chicks that is :)
-- tony
Better than a
HOTTEST chicks on the internet.
by far!
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Casey Dougall
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's a genius move. As Buffett said, if he had $700 billion on the
> government's terms, he would be buying up these distressed assets himself.
> Now, I may not agree with Buffett on politics, but on investing, the guy is
>
Suicide Girls used to be awesome. I let my subscription lapse some time ago
and they've continued to go downhill. The management moved to LA from
Portland, some of the original people got forced out, it became much more
corporate and they did a fine job screwing over some of the girls and trying
to
It's a genius move. As Buffett said, if he had $700 billion on the
government's terms, he would be buying up these distressed assets himself.
Now, I may not agree with Buffett on politics, but on investing, the guy is
as good as gold. He thinks the government will make a lot of money on this
deal.
So your boy, Warren Buffett, came out in support of the government bailout
today.that make anyone rethink their positions
Gruss?
--
Can money pay for all the days
I've lived awake, but half asleep?
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion
That smell is the Bush Derangement Kool-Aid. Get past your own partisan
beliefs and look at the big picture. Without a bailout, lending between
financial institutions goes to zero and the economy grinds to a halt.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Dana wrote:
> I smell a last looting of the tre
Right, and one of the conditions that the dems have gotten written into this
deal, if what I'm reading is correct, is that WE, the taxpayers, would get
to somehow reap that profit, should it come.
No idea how that works, but that's what I've read.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PRO
That's one approach.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yeah but I had a good hard look at the water before we got in the
> boat, and I know how to swim. Seriously, I say let those banks fail.
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:25 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it depends too, I figure we both know a lot of girls in the
> tattoo and body mod scene, and hardcore and punk and clubs and so forth.
>
Now I want me a Suicide Girl!!!
~
I think it depends too, I figure we both know a lot of girls in the
tattoo and body mod scene, and hardcore and punk and clubs and so forth.
Tony wrote:
> lots of personal experiences... lots of friends and friends that are girls
> that ive talked to, hung with... im tellin you there is a line th
indefinitely may I add.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no, because he will be engaged in a buy and hold strategy. The whole
> point is that a quarter-million-dollar house if currently not worth a
> quarter-million, merely because of the current climate. So if y
no, because he will be engaged in a buy and hold strategy. The whole
point is that a quarter-million-dollar house if currently not worth a
quarter-million, merely because of the current climate. So if you buy
and seel when the market has recovered, you make a profit.
Theoretically. So even if the m
Isn't that specifically what the proposal in question is talking about?
How to spend the $700 billion? It says that whatever the treasury secretary
wants to buy, he gets to decide...without a court or committee or anything
else getting any say-so.
I mean, that's not a good thing, in my opinion
>http://news.cnet.com/2300-1040_3-6246695-1.html?tag=mncol
>
>Now how many of us have $8,000 to spend on a big toy?
I'd rather build my own. As fast (if not faster) for a whole lot less.
~|
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Beer is the reason why we have civilization. People stopped being nomadic
hunter gatherer types in order to brew beer. If it were not for beer there
would be no agricultural revolution in the neolithic period. Without that
agricultural revolution, no civilization.
So beer is responsible for civ
yeah but I had a good hard look at the water before we got in the
boat, and I know how to swim. Seriously, I say let those banks fail.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:25 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I am, and I'm against
what's the actual problem? When you strip off the rhetoric and
conventional wisdom, it seems to me that the root of the problem is
that people do not have money to spend, which has sent the economy
into a cashflow crisis. Seems to me that people are defaulting on
their mortgages because they can't
I smell a last looting of the treasury before the current junta leaves power.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Adam Churvis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think it is also possible that the
>> regulatory environment should be revised (not necessarily
>> strengthened).
>
> Yes, you're right, of c
> I think it is also possible that the
> regulatory environment should be revised (not necessarily
> strengthened).
Yes, you're right, of course. I meant complete inaction within the scope of
the bailout itself: we don't need it.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productivity Enhan
Money quote from the Treasury in Forbes:
"It's not based on any particular data point," a Treasury spokeswoman told
Forbes.com Tuesday. "We just wanted to choose a really large number."
http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/09/23/bailout-paulson-congress-biz-beltway-cx_jz_bw_0923bailout.html
This is a
Ha, well no sooner did I post this thread, then a guy called me who is
interested enough in buying my SUV to fly in from Michigan to get it. I'll have
to see how things pan out with another buyer coming this weekend first, but
fairly hopeful that I have it sold.
~
orange last time I flew.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:49 PM, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Measures from the
>> Patriot Act were instrumental in preventing at least one very serious
>> terrorist attack against the country.
>
> and the "Millennium Plot"
> (http://www.globalsecurity.org/
are you sure of that? I am not.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:20 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "his decisions"
>
> No, only his decisions on what assets to buy etc. with the bailout money. I
> don't agree with it, but it's MUCH more benign than "The Treasury Secretary
> becomes a dictator!"
no.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is this limited to applications that interact with the Amazon webstore?
>
> 2008/9/23 Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > New options for those who need big ticket database access/support but
> > don't have the big tick
I could be convinced of this. I think it is also possible that the
regulatory environment should be revised (not necessarily
strengthened). A bailout followed by an expectation that more of the
same will lead to different results would be STOOPID. We have already
been there, done that. RTC anyone?
> he is trying to stampede us the same way he stampeded us into the
> patriot act and the war in iraq. No more stampedes I say.
Whenever a salesman pushes you to act immediately and warns of grave
consequences if you don't, you can always always ALWAYS just completely
ignore him because he's lyin
CNN just flashed a breaking news banner on their web site that both parties
in both houses have a agreed to a bill and are taking it to Paulson.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Casey Dougall wrote:
>
> And this target Target House Adjournment of Friday don't help... They
> better
> run till the
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for Cam's "there's nothing to worry about", well, I think Adam
> articulately described exactly why there is.
I am so not worried that I am going to go ahead and mark this thread.
Creating an "I told you so" label in gm
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It isn't so much financial issues as legislative ones. Republicans in the
> House in particular hate this bill, so McCain is going to DC to try and
> persuade them to get on board and vote for it. Democrats are saying they
>
Warren Buffet likes Paulson's plan:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRef_DUx6AcU&refer=worldwide
``I think the Treasury will pay back the $700 billion and make a
considerable amount of money,'' Buffett said, adding that if he had $700
billion on the government's terms to buy d
this issue is bullshit. Wag the dog. See the pretty crisis.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The voting record in the last year is irrelevant. This is a crisis, a very
> real, very serious crisis.
>
> In fact, it is so much of a crisis that President Bush
> If you're worried about not getting dollars for your dollars, then
> Adam is right.
I'm right.
Scroll down when you go here, and take a good, long, careful look at those
numbers:
http://www.fdic.gov/about/financial/letters/08Q2_stake.html#1
Looks like a house of cards undergoing rapid constru
It isn't so much financial issues as legislative ones. Republicans in the
House in particular hate this bill, so McCain is going to DC to try and
persuade them to get on board and vote for it. Democrats are saying they
will not pass the bill unless a majority of Republicans vote for it, so it's
up
he is trying to stampede us the same way he stampeded us into the
patriot act and the war in iraq. No more stampedes I say. Fool me
twice was bad enough. Action is required but buying bad debt from Wall
Street is not the correct action.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:20 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But here's the thing - if one person pulls out one Jinga block, there
> probably won't be a problem. If everyone pulls out their Jinga blocks
> problem.
Here is exactly what's going to happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdckdCY-LHg
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Produ
> gMoney wrote:
> So, ideally, you want $99,999 dollars in your account..?
>
For me, it's $0 (as "savings"), since there are better places to get a return.
As for Cam's "there's nothing to worry about", well, I think Adam
articulately described exactly why there is. In fact, this exact type
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