Really biased comic

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
This is a comic review. This is not against any candidate. It's just a comic review. It's all about how material is presented in the comic. Just the comic. IDW put out 2 comics recently called Presidential Material - one for each candidate. I just looked them over and got an eye opener. The one ab

Re: Another Vid

2008-10-29 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah, an MRAP. I watched the video again and noticed that I made a comment of how many can I run over. I want to be clear that I have no intention of running over kids. The problem is that the vehicle sits so high, and the hood is long enough to where we can't really see what is in front of us if i

Re: South Park sucks now

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
To quote my mother, "if it sucked then everyone would want it." On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:58 AM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > South Park always sucked. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:22 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > It just seems like of the four episodes so far this season, the o

Biased liberal media judges

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
*http://sluggy.com/daily.php?date=081022* -- Michael Dinowitz (http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdinowitz) President: House of Fusion(http://www.houseoffusion.com) Publisher: Fusion Authority(http://www.fusionauthority.com) Adobe Community Expert / Advanced Certified ColdFusion Professional ~

Re: South Park sucks now

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
South Park always sucked. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:22 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It just seems like of the four episodes so far this season, the only one > that was any good at all was the Breast Cancer episode, and the others > (including the one I'm watching right now) are utter shit. >

South Park sucks now

2008-10-29 Thread adam
It just seems like of the four episodes so far this season, the only one that was any good at all was the Breast Cancer episode, and the others (including the one I'm watching right now) are utter shit. What do you think? Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhan

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread denstar
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Won Lee wrote: > What's wrong with Ayn Rand? Nothing at all, I love her work. I think she's been brought up because of the (in my opinion) misguided Socialism-ish comments. Even moving to Galt's Gultch won't get you far enough away. :-) -- Bad men are full of

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread denstar
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Sam wrote: > That's for the settle. If you don't have card present and you do > volume you pay for the address check to cut down on fraud. When you > have fraud your rate goes way up and the charge backs will destroy > you. Yes, there is certainly incentive to use

Re: tony hillerman died :(

2008-10-29 Thread denstar
Dunno, but I'm pretty sure the original footage is in the cabinet at my work. I'll try to remember to look into it mañana. -- Anyone can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right person at the right time, and for the right purpose and in the right way - that is not within every

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
We are Google. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. You will service Us. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Michael wrote: > Just a fast note. This thread, this message and even this response has > already been indexed. Google loves me (or is that big brother.)

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Just a fast note. This thread, this message and even this response has already been indexed. Google loves me (or is that big brother.) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is reason enough alone to vote for McCain. > > Google - all your data are belong

Re: I am dumbfounded

2008-10-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Are you implying that the Leafs aren't a joke? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As fun as that sounds I'll have to pass Larry :) > > Either you're joking or a leaf fan. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8

Re: media bias -- plea for help

2008-10-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do Democrats, as a whole, oppose drilling in ANWAR and off-shore? ANWAR, yes, they fairly steadfastly oppose it (except Alaska Democrats of course. I believe that even Begich toes this home state jobs line). Off shore drill

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
Which is reason enough alone to vote for McCain. Google - all your data are belong to us. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Gruss wrote: > > Scott wrote: > > At about 9 minutes in > > Biggest thing I noticed was Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google. > > There's your new United States CTO. ~

McCain Donated To Khaldi

2008-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
During the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars. A 1998 tax filing for the McCain-led group shows a $448,873 grant t

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > At about 9 minutes in Biggest thing I noticed was Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google. There's your new United States CTO. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the

The Azeroth Vote: It's Just Science

2008-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
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My new sig - theme song

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I just finished singing the Spanish lyrics to Mr. Bad Guy with my kids (don't ask) and I decided that it was the perfect sig for myself. Si, soy el senor "chico malo" para todos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW4rLSxiXyQ -- Michael Dinowitz (http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdinowitz) Si, soy el senor

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
sometimes you just have to laugh ;) >What's wrong with Ayn Rand? > What threat does McCain pose to the constitution? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
You guys really have absolutely no sense of humor. I think that's what bothers me the most about you. Geez. Chlll out. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why woudl you take that as an attack on Obama? I purposelt tried to avoid > any language that would m

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
Because you mentioned O_ama without praising him. Blasphemer. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why woudl you take that as an attack on Obama? I purposelt tried to avoid > any language that would make it look like I was doign that. > > I merely pointed out

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Won Lee
What's wrong with Ayn Rand? - Original Message - From: "Judah McAuley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "cf-community" Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:30:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: politicking in the workplace Perhaps you should get you coworker and Sam together for a play

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
So you claim Bush destroyed the constitution with domestic spying and the patriot act. Obama voted for them both. What threat does McCain pose to the constitution? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I support him because he will uphold the constitution. ~~

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Why woudl you take that as an attack on Obama? I purposelt tried to avoid any language that would make it look like I was doign that. I merely pointed out somethgin I thgouht was odd or funny about the scene. Not political bias was intended. I know some will try, but I really can't see how that

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
the editing was necessary because obama supporters don't cast a reflection. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the only reason I noticed it was because you could tell that he was > facing a mirror and when he started to put on his name tag, I almost

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
That's for the settle. If you don't have card present and you do volume you pay for the address check to cut down on fraud. When you have fraud your rate goes way up and the charge backs will destroy you. I think the real issue is the name listed as the donor doesn't match the CC allowing the sam

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
I think the only reason I noticed it was because you could tell that he was facing a mirror and when he started to put on his name tag, I almost prepared myself to have to read it backwards real quick to find out where he worked. Not saying it was done purposely, but if it was, I could understand

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
OMG, stop the presses. Obama is showing edited video. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At about 9 minutes in, in the segment where they are talking about the > couple where the man retired from the railroad. > > At one point they show him getting dressed i

Re: Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
normally that would be an editing error. I am not watching so I am not sure if it was in this context. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At about 9 minutes in, in the segment where they are talking about the > couple where the man retired from the railroad.

Funny thing in the Obama INformercial

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
At about 9 minutes in, in the segment where they are talking about the couple where the man retired from the railroad. At one point they show him getting dressed in a mirror and he puts on a tag from Wal-Mart and you could read the name tag clear as day, it was not reversed. Same thing when he pu

Re: tony hillerman died :(

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
is that online somewhere? he was one of my favorite authors. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:07 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Awww, bummer. :-( > > He was just at CE a few months ago. Glad we got it recorded. > > Here's to you, Tony Hillerman! > > -- > Anybody can become angry - that is eas

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread denstar
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Sam wrote: > it = the processor that does the CC address verification Naw, the only thing the processor checks is card #, exp date, and cardholder name. The rest is up to the vendor, but have different levels of risk associated, obviously. Credit is a freakish b

Re: tony hillerman died :(

2008-10-29 Thread denstar
Awww, bummer. :-( He was just at CE a few months ago. Glad we got it recorded. Here's to you, Tony Hillerman! -- Anybody can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose, and in the right way - that

Re: Arrgh! IE6 sucks

2008-10-29 Thread denstar
Anytime I can, man! -- All virtue is summed up in dealing justly. Aristotle On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > thanks again! > > > On Oct 29, 2008, at 1:22 PM, denstar wrote: > >> >> I hit your page a bunch of times, images loaded up fine. ~

RE: I am dumbfounded

2008-10-29 Thread Duane
As fun as that sounds I'll have to pass Larry :) Either you're joking or a leaf fan. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:44 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: I am dumbfounded >NHL Centre ice. Worth every penny, and you get

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Honestly? None. I just wanted to see what kind of reaction that would get. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hehe. You mean you think it is intact now? Seriously, what threat to > you think he poses to the constitution? > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Scott

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
hehe. You mean you think it is intact now? Seriously, what threat to you think he poses to the constitution? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean he will uphold the parts of the Constitution he leaves intact. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dana <

Re: I am dumbfounded

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Are you propositioning him? > You ought to be sentenced to be tied naked on an ice flow and set out to > sea. > > > -- Scott Stroz ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Fun? Elections are not about fun. Or fairness. Or truth. or or or. They're means of influencing this country and the world. And to use the word traditionally in this new world of internet campaigning makes me smile and almost laugh. Obama is ahead because he and his team knows this world better tha

Re: Another Vid

2008-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>Another vid of us pulling out of the town. Gives you an idea of how narrow >some of the streets are and a view of some more people and homes. It will be >available in a few. > >http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2pT401UywJk > >Bruce Ouch. not good if you were in a hostile territory. BTW what were you

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
No one here ever said that small donations were bad. They merely pointed out that the loophole with small donations and pre-paid or gift credit cards could be used to get around campaign contribuiton limits. Is it a loophole? Yes Can it be easily exploited? Yes Do you disagree with that? -- S

Re: I am dumbfounded

2008-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>NHL Centre ice. Worth every penny, and you get to skip the buffoon Don >Cherry. > >Duane He's a national icon. How dare you. Next thing you know you'll be wanting to remove the beaver as the national symbol and ban maple syrup. You ought to be sentenced to be tied naked on an ice flow and set o

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
You mean he will uphold the parts of the Constitution he leaves intact. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I support him because he will uphold the constitution. > > > -- Scott Stroz ~| Adobe®

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
ah a quick tour of google news explains why http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/10/28/small_donors_not_spending_limits_fueling_obamas_last_lap/ Small donors, not spending limits, fueling Obama's last lap By Peter S. Canellos Globe Staff / October 28, 2008 Email| Print| Sing

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
I support him because he will uphold the constitution. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You support him because he's not republican. > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> as an Obama supporter? I think not. I support Obama also b

Re: media bias -- plea for help

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Sorry, neither I, nor my words, wield the power to actually turn someone into a demon. I would think you need at least a level 7 sorcerer for that. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And yet, you did not get appalled or complain when I used 'Bible > > thu

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
You support him because he's not republican. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as an Obama supporter? I think not. I support Obama also but not out > of political correctness and not because I think Hillary Clinton is an > old bitch and not because I think that ev

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
nice :) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.timeofthefaeries.com/totfblog/?p=131 > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Charlie Griefer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> it is possible

Re: media bias -- plea for help

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Why is it that you cannto anser a simple yes or no quesiton with a 'yes' or a 'no'? Do Democrats, as a whole, oppose drilling in ANWAR and off-shore? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >How is the blame more on the republican side? Is it not the deomcrats

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
no, she is the fairly of the long green :) look at her hands :) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > She is not green. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> http://www.timeofthefaeries.com/totfblog/?p=131 >> >> >> > > -- >

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
>From what I read on the blogs you can't donate with a name that doesn't match the card on McCains site. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would have to agree that this is not outside the realm of possibility. > > However, if we assume it is being done, wo

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
not sure why they would bother. The whole fun of being a large campaign donor has traditionally been in being a large campaign donor. I think the Republicans are just trying to imply that there is something wrong with small donors. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
She is not green. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.timeofthefaeries.com/totfblog/?p=131 > > > -- Scott Stroz ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic r

Re: media bias -- plea for help

2008-10-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And yet, you did not get appalled or complain when I used 'Bible > > thumper' in > > this thread, > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread. > > cfm/threadid:28197 > com/groups

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
I will concede that it is possible green fairies are feeding both sides, but it is highly unlikely. However, I would argue that it is likely that people are using pre-paid cards to skirt the system. If there is a loophole, you can bet both sides are exploiting it. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:25 PM

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
http://www.timeofthefaeries.com/totfblog/?p=131 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> it is possible that little green fairies are feeding both candidates >> money also, but I find it unli

Re: media bias -- plea for help

2008-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
> And yet, you did not get appalled or complain when I used 'Bible > thumper' in > this thread, > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/thread. > cfm/threadid:28197 com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:277085> > > I wonder why that is? I thought my

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
as an Obama supporter? I think not. I support Obama also but not out of political correctness and not because I think Hillary Clinton is an old bitch and not because I think that everyone who isn't is an idiot. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>one of my co-

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
heheheheheeh.you said 'taint' On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It taints the entire process, not just the individual campaigns. > > -- Scott Stroz ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software

Re: media bias -- plea for help

2008-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>How is the blame more on the republican side? Is it not the deomcrats who >oppose drilling in ANWAR and off-shore? They filibustered the bill, and made sure it was withdrawn. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most impo

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it is possible that little green fairies are feeding both candidates > money also, but I find it unlikely. > links? -- I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my wife. And I wish you my kind of succ

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>one of my co-workers spews an endless commentary, much of it as >malicious and small-minded as anything Sam could dream up. Are you sure it isn't Sam? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic relea

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
it is possible that little green fairies are feeding both candidates money also, but I find it unlikely. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would have to agree that this is not outside the realm of possibility. > > However, if we assume it is being done, wo

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Define enemy of the United States. If one candidate is pro-clean coal and the other is anti, who would you put your money behind. It's all influence. And Each of the two sides used above as an example see themselves as pre-America. And the candidates don't have to know anything. Are you accusing an

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Stroz
I would have to agree that this is not outside the realm of possibility. However, if we assume it is being done, would need to assume, lacking any proof, that it is being done on both sides. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The number isn't fake, just the name.

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
no, I have had one bounce because I typed the security code in wrong. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it = the processor that does the CC address verification > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> it? >> >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 a

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
The number isn't fake, just the name. That way I can use my card and just keeping changing my name. As long as the charge is <200 it's never reported. Who will ever know? Will the bank report it months later? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Standard verificat

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
it = the processor that does the CC address verification On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it? > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I believe it only checks the zip. Has that changed? >> >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Dana <[

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
Standard verification for credit cars is credit card number, name, zip and security code from the back of the card. I wonder if the decline is not happening at the web site level because the campaign is processing the charges in bulk. I doubt the credit card companies processed the charges with

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
it? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe it only checks the zip. Has that changed? > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> most sites don't have address verification. I buy online all the time >> and the adddress on my cards is

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
I believe it only checks the zip. Has that changed? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > most sites don't have address verification. I buy online all the time > and the adddress on my cards is not current. > ~~~

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
Again, are you implying that the candidates are in collusion with "an enemy of the United States"? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It taints the entire process, not just the individual campaigns. > If I was an enemy of the United States and I wanted to mak

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, Mr. Bad Guy, what benefit would it be for someone to buy an > election unless the candidate knew they were doing it? Are you really asking that question? If a candidate is known for position X and you want position X to go

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
most sites don't have address verification. I buy online all the time and the adddress on my cards is not current. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like the Obama site went through a lot of trouble to turn off > address verification. I wonder why? > > http://

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
Looks like the Obama site went through a lot of trouble to turn off address verification. I wonder why? http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/who-is-john-gal.html On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, Mr. Bad Guy, what benefit would it be for

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
It taints the entire process, not just the individual campaigns. To be clear, I am not advocating that anyone try to do this, and anyone who does try it should go to jail for a very long time. Having said that, here is how you could game the system: You could buy a large number of gift cards, say

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
OK, Mr. Bad Guy, what benefit would it be for someone to buy an election unless the candidate knew they were doing it? Are you suggesting that the candidates are working in collusion with bad guys? Is their any evidence anywhere that this is happening, or simply an attempt to taint Obama's fund r

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You're a good guy. You think like a good guy. You could not plot or scheme like a bad guy. a real bad guy. I, on the other hand, am a bad guy. I know how to send spam even better than the spammers can and even bypass may forms of anti-spam security. I know how I can steal a few million in a day wit

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Ok Robert, explain how to drive a supertanker through that loophole. I'd like to see the scenario that ends up with a $100 million dollar supertanker comprised of $200 donations driven through that loophole. Hell, lets make it easier and say its only a $60 million tanker. How is Obama laundering 3

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
No, we don't know. We do know however who has been donating huge sums, and those people are more likely call in the favors after the election. How can someone demand influence if they've only made anonymous contributions? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what's the complaint here? > > People that can't afford to pay 100,000 dollars going and actually > purchasing prepaid credit cards to donate small amounts to the Obama > campaign? > pfftt.. > > Anonymous Donors are non existen

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Vivec
So what's the complaint here? People that can't afford to pay 100,000 dollars going and actually purchasing prepaid credit cards to donate small amounts to the Obama campaign? pfftt.. Anonymous Donors are non existent in previous campaigns and Republican campaigns? Really? I don't think so. You

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
The issue is that we don't really know who is contributing with fake names, addresses, and prepaid gift cards in amounts under $200. You could pilot a supertanker through that loophole. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Maureen wrote: > The total of all contributions to Obama have been much higher

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
The total of all contributions to Obama have been much higher. Are you saying the percentage of small donations are higher? Could it be because more people support Obama who aren't in the "I can donate 70K in one day" category? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
I would find it amusing :) I don't think they would play nice though. My co-worker is an Obama fan. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps you should get you coworker and Sam together for a play date. > > I'll supply the Ayn Rand coloring book. > > Juda

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
you are welcome :) On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Pea Brain wrote: >> one of my co-workers spews an endless commentary, much of it as >> malicious and small-minded as anything Sam could dream up. > > Thank you > > ~

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Perhaps you should get you coworker and Sam together for a play date. I'll supply the Ayn Rand coloring book. Judah On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Pea Brain wrote: >> one of my co-workers spews an endless commentary, much of it

Re: media bias -- plea for help

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
Why can't you ever focus? Why do you always try to take people down mindless tangents? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sam wrote: >> Illinois because being a senator isn't executive experience. >> >> Most important, he has a campaign manager, he doesn't R

Re: politicking in the workplace

2008-10-29 Thread Sam
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Pea Brain wrote: > one of my co-workers spews an endless commentary, much of it as > malicious and small-minded as anything Sam could dream up. Thank you ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Robert Munn
I can give a donation using a pre-paid gift card and a fake name and address. As long as the amount is under $200, it doesn't have to be individually reported. Both Obama and McCain have received these sorts of donations, though the total amounts for the Obama campaign appear to be much larger.

Re: Phony election flyers surface in Virginia

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
::nod: and how many of those suspected felons had names like Bob Brown? On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In 2000, Florida did a purge of supposed felons from the voter roles. > Problem is, they also purged people with names similar to felons. > > Most of us hav

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Re: Phony election flyers surface in Virginia

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
In 2000, Florida did a purge of supposed felons from the voter roles. Problem is, they also purged people with names similar to felons. Most of us have written database queries. Would you really want voter roles purges using this as the criteria? delete * from voteroll where name like ('suspecte

Re: Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
but remember, voting fraud = mickey mouse registering to vote On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For Christs sake people, get a fucking grip. > > I'm all in favor of campaign finance reform, hell I've been screaming > about it for years, but this is she

Re: Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations

2008-10-29 Thread Judah McAuley
For Christs sake people, get a fucking grip. I'm all in favor of campaign finance reform, hell I've been screaming about it for years, but this is sheer partisan idiocy. Oh noes! Democracy is being undermined by the little people! Run for the hills! I'll give a crap about prepaid credit cards be

Re: Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations

2008-10-29 Thread Maureen
Just to check to see if this was only being done by the Democrats or the Obama campaign, I just went to both the John McCain site and the RNC site and made small donations using a prepaid debit card. Neither site rejected it. On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: Phony election flyers surface in Virginia

2008-10-29 Thread Dana
yep ;) just interested in increasing the number of peple this applies to... On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And if they show up at the polling place they are entitled to vote. > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> right.

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Meanwhile, Obama raised $100 million over the Internet in September alone My point was more that it's kind of disturbing that McCain has a mysterious Chinese donor who dropped $70,000 in one day. ~| Adobe® ColdF

Re: McCain's Mystery Foreign Donor

2008-10-29 Thread Judah McAuley
You can be a real jerk Robert :) At least I'm going to assume you're being an asshole and not an idiot here. First off, there are no anonymous donors. There are low dollar donors (less than $200) I believe who do not have to be individually reported to the FEC. The campaign still has to keep track

Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
As Gruss brought up the very important point of foreign campaign contributions, I wanted to follow through. The ability to accept numerous 'small' contributions could (could, not does) allow for the same problems and more. This is becoming more of an issue as more things become digital. I can see a

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