RE: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
"no" is not an offer... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:20 PM, denstar wrote: >

RE: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Isn't all the manufacturing in china these days already after Republicans pushed for tax breaks for sending jobs overseas? -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are a

Keyboards rock!

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
I liked this: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/10/the-keyboard-cult.html Too bad I like laptops more than desktops now. :Den -- Women are quite capable of entering into a friendship with a man, but to keep it going that takes a little physical antipathy as well. Friedrich Nietzsche

RE: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
I think you need to read that article from the guardian I posted here a while back that talks about how the supposed scandal wasn't really a scandal at all instead of just believing what Rush and Glenn tell you... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, Oc

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
I'm just joshing you. Pretending there are different sides to things is funner than the realization that we are all one. Sometimes. =) :Den -- Women are considered deep - why? Because one can never discover any bottom to them. Women are not even shallow. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22,

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
Surely you meant to direct that at me, no? If it's any consolation, Democrats are nearly as bad as Republicans. Er, Liberals are almost as bad as Conservatives. Er, Socialists are almost as bad as Fascists. All better? =) :Den -- Woman was God's second mistake. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri,

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Now you're being selfish. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:01 PM, denstar wrote: > > Yeah, what's the difference between spending money on ourselves and > spending money on the rest of the world, anyways?  ;)p ~| Order the Adobe Co

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
My bad. I assumed your post was somehow related to this thread. What a cowinkydink that your brain fart landed here of all places. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Maureen wrote: > > It's amazing how I can say something as simple as "we cannot live > without air, water and heat", and people wil

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Maureen wrote: ... > What next?  Are they gonna tell me water isn't wet? Well, there is this new thing called "dry water"... ;) Fer reals tho. :Den -- Without music, life would be a mistake. Friedrich Nietzsch

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
Yeah, what's the difference between spending money on ourselves and spending money on the rest of the world, anyways? ;)p :Den -- Wit is the epitaph of an emotion. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Sam wrote: > > That's spit in the bucket compared to the 3 trillion spend in

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
That's spit in the bucket compared to the 3 trillion spend in less than 2 years and the 13 trillion over the next 10. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Nah, we gotta save all the taxpayer money to send to Pakistan. > http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/22/u-s-proposes-2-

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
That's a fringe On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:40 PM, denstar wrote: > > Yeah, they'd rather have Creationism taught with taxpayer money.  ;) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anth

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:40 PM, denstar wrote: >> Not true, all offers were ignored >> Wasn't the first law the new congress passed to ignore the minority party? > > Oh yeah, the Republicans were chock full of solutions.  I think their > nickname is "The party of solutions". > They were chompin

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Maureen
Nah, we gotta save all the taxpayer money to send to Pakistan. http://afghanistan.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/22/u-s-proposes-2-billion-security-package-for-pakistan On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:40 PM, denstar wrote: > > Yeah, they'd rather have Creationism taught with taxpayer money.  ;) > > :De ~~

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Maureen
It's amazing how I can say something as simple as "we cannot live without air, water and heat", and people will disagree with me. What next? Are they gonna tell me water isn't wet? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 5:33 PM, denstar wrote: > > No, she's just making stuff up.  We don't need the planet, th

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
Yeah, they'd rather have Creationism taught with taxpayer money. ;) :Den -- Whoever has witnessed another's ideal becomes his inexorable judge and as it were his evil conscience. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Sam wrote: > > Nope. They just don't want it taught with taxp

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:20 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> Then again, "nothing" is what the Republicans have to offer, so... > > Not true, all offers were ignored > Wasn't the first law the new congress passed to ignore the minority party? Oh yeah, the

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
No, she's just making stuff up. We don't need the planet, the planet needs *us*! "We're the Planeteers, and you can be one too!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJI87u3DoQ :Den -- Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Cap-n-trade baby. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:24 PM, denstar wrote: > > Adding some "scrubbers", sotospeak, doesn't equate to "ban all > manufacturing"... where do you get this stuff? > > "They" live! > > I bet you love the Haliburton loophole, neh?  =)p

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Nope. They just don't want it taught with taxpayers money. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:20 PM, denstar wrote: > > Isn't it the "other" party that likes to tell people what "moral" > behavior is?  And better yet, legislate it? > > No gays for jooo!

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:20 PM, denstar wrote: > > Then again, "nothing" is what the Republicans have to offer, so... Not true, all offers were ignored Wasn't the first law the new congress passed to ignore the minority party? > But did you seriously think the guy could fix the economy in unde

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
Adding some "scrubbers", sotospeak, doesn't equate to "ban all manufacturing"... where do you get this stuff? "They" live! I bet you love the Haliburton loophole, neh? =)p :Den -- Whoever feels predestined to see and not to believe will find all believers too noisy and pushy: he guards again

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
LOL =) It's only "nothing" to folk who think "nothing" is better than "something". I guess 15 or 20 percent unemployment wouldn't be much different than what we have now, neh? Then again, "nothing" is what the Republicans have to offer, so... But did you seriously think the guy could fix the

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
Isn't it the "other" party that likes to tell people what "moral" behavior is? And better yet, legislate it? No gays for jooo! :Den -- Whoever does not have a good father should procure one. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Sam wrote: > > According to him going to Vegas i

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Let me guess, you own the Al Gore DVD and it's nearly worn out. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Maureen wrote: > > We can live without an economy.  We cannot live without air, water and heat. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Ant

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
I can't believe they're pushing this lie again. You're guys got busted faking the data, it's a proven scam. Move on. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Look at those charts correlating the output of manmade greenhouse > gases with the change in global temperatures. They'

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Because they want to ban all manufacturing in the US. That will cause all manufacturing to move to China and India where they don't bother to make clean factories like we do. That way it looks good, but we then have ten times the pollution and it doesn't take long for it to cross the pacific. If

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
According to him going to Vegas is inappropriate behavior, so yes. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:34 PM, denstar wrote: > > He told people not to go to Vegas?  I thought he just chastised the > inappropriate behavior ~| Order the Ad

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Good point, if Bama would have gone to Vegas and bet the stimulus on red we would have had a 50% chance of it being worth something. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:55 PM, denstar wrote: > > I thought bitching about this stuff was bad for the economy... remember > Nevada? > > Which is it?  ;] ~

RE: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Exactly +infinity for Mr. Camden -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 5:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere My question is this. Isn't most of what is recommende

RE: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Cause isn't the right word...accelerating is the proper one... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 4:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere I do not question that the clima

RE: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Doesn't that pretty much define fascism? Nationalism, politics, enforcing morality (while not exactly practicing it)... -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: I found the middle What's "tra

RE: 5000 year old wooden door found buried in Zurich

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
By that definition, so are latinos and Native Americans...it doesn't make them Black African. -Original Message- From: trish simon [mailto:trishsimo...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: 5000 year old wooden door found buried in Zurich Egyp

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
He told people not to go to Vegas? I thought he just chastised the inappropriate behavior? :den -- Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22,

RE: 5000 year old wooden door found buried in Zurich

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
That was a black pride thing basically claiming all of Africa as black Africa...not all Africans are black. Most North Africans are not Black Africans. I'll have to look up and see if I can find an article on what I was talking about previously. This is not to denigrate black Africa either...th

RE: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Exactly...I don't make that judgment on all Christians either...some actually follow the teachings of Jesus. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:56 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Bad NPR Actually given where I live,

RE: 5000 year old wooden door found buried in Zurich

2010-10-22 Thread Eric Roberts
Actually they were more of the people that the Berbers and other North Africans came from...I forget their name...they had a really cool special on a recent find from them where they found the beginnings of the mummification process, push that back 10's of thousands of years. "Black" Africans have

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Stroz
I doubt very highly that the President will tell people to stop using Google (like he did about going to Vegas) On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:55 PM, denstar wrote: > > I thought bitching about this stuff was bad for the economy... remember > Nevada? > > Which is it?  ;] > > :Den > > -- > Whenever I

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
I thought bitching about this stuff was bad for the economy... remember Nevada? Which is it? ;] :Den -- Whenever I climb I am followed by a dog called 'Ego'. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Sam wrote: > > http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidenti

Re: cf9

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Keep my current laptop clean which I've down sized so when I go to a clients > I can use their pc, log in to the hosted cf9 and demo something and not > worry about carrying my own equipment. You might think about running Railo or OpenBD lo

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
LOL Ah, the "manner of serpents"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_position Oldie but a goodie. Dunno about the no light, but "quick" could be ok, if quick==3 hours or so. Relativity can rock! But not as much as bone'n does. Woohoo for doing the nasty horizontal mambo, however tradi

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Maureen
We can live without an economy. We cannot live without air, water and heat. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Oh yes, because the economy is so much harder to fix than the > environment... ~| Order the Ado

RE: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sisk, Kris
Oh yes, because the economy is so much harder to fix than the environment... Seriously though my question to counter that argument is this: What will happen to the economy when we hit the environmental tipping point and our livestock starts dropping dead from heatstroke on a regular basis? The ec

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
The strongest reply to that I've seen is that many people think that the recommendations to fix the problem would be too costly elsewhere...like cutting out coal from our energy matrix would have costs high enough for industry that it would cause damage to our economy, etc. So in their mind, it is

Re: Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow.

2010-10-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
In Dallas, they're a dime a dozen Sent from my iPad On Oct 22, 2010, at 2:59 PM, "Sisk, Kris" wrote: > > Oh good grief. How in the world do these people get into the public > spotlight? > > -Original Message- > From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Raymond Camden
My question is this. Isn't most of what is recommended to help fix the problem good for the environment anyway? As a dumb example - imagine an asteroid is heading towards Earth and you were told to pick up the trash in the park. Ends up - the asteroid missed us AND picking up the trash didn't p

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
Substantially increased volcanic activity, changes in the earths orbit and changes in the sun's intensity are some of the phenomena correlated with past sudden climate change. Part of the problem, though, is timescale. If you are looking at things like sediment layers with trapped gases and whatno

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Stroz
How do the charts explain the rise in temperatures in past cycles? Before we had machines, etc? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Look at those charts correlating the output of manmade greenhouse > gases with the change in global temperatures. They're almost 1:1. > > On

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Look at those charts correlating the output of manmade greenhouse gases with the change in global temperatures. They're almost 1:1. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > How are you so certain the answer to your question is 'yes'? > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Judah McAu

RE: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sisk, Kris
If you're right about that then those 'very few' are a very loud bunch. I keep hearing about how humans can't affect the climate. I just have to laugh about that given that freaking algae once triggered a climate change that dang near wiped out all life on Earth. (google 'oxygen crisis') -Ori

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Stroz
How are you so certain the answer to your question is 'yes'? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > The science folks I've talked to agree that there are certainly > natural swings, that much is obvious from climate records. We also > have a general agreement, I think, that a

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
There's an interesting project out now called OldWeather - http://www.oldweather.org/. They've digitized century + Royal Navy ships' logs, and are asking volunteers to transcribe the weather data from them There are enough data points to allow for some very detailed records on global warming from

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
The science folks I've talked to agree that there are certainly natural swings, that much is obvious from climate records. We also have a general agreement, I think, that a significantly warmer Earth is not in the best interests of our species. The question then is: Is human activity, something we

Re: Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow.

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean the minor revolt that got traction because the French decided to tweak the Brit's nose. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Does he mean a 'violent overthrow of the government' like the one that > happened here in the late 1700's? You know the one - the one that > ac

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Very few people will agree to 2 with certainty. Too many people agree to 1 with certainty. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > People I have discussed this topic with typically fall into one of two groups. > > 1. Humans are causing all the climate change. > 2. Humans have n

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Stroz
Based on the natural cycle of heating/cooling we are on an 'upswing', so I hesitate to think humans are the only reason for the climate change. :D People I have discussed this topic with typically fall into one of two groups. 1. Humans are causing all the climate change. 2. Humans have no impact

Re: Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow.

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
I imagine he does, though the point of that one was to replace a monarchy and implement a representative democracy. If you have to violently overthrow a representative democracy that would mean that either 1) it is no longer a representative democracy or 2) you are just a little shit that can't co

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/After-news-of-Google-tax-dodges-Obama-raises-money-with-Google-execs-105513473.html On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Sam wrote: > pssst... > > Google is the liberal poster child. > > ~~

Re: Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow.

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Stroz
Does he mean a 'violent overthrow of the government' like the one that happened here in the late 1700's? You know the one - the one that actually formed this country? :D On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Republican Congressional candidate Stephen Broden, a Dallas minister > with

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I do not question that the climate is changing. I am just not sure of > the cause of the change. > > Could it be from us pesky little humans? Of course. But it is just as > likely being caused by the natural heating and cooling cycle of the

Re: Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Looks like he's going to lose so get ready to rumble. :P On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Republican Congressional candidate Stephen Broden, a Dallas minister > with a history of making controversial statements, admitted in an > interview on Thursday that he would not rule out

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
So lack of snow and or too much snow is proof man is causing global climate disruption. Good to know. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Of course all those pesky gummint scientists are all part of the > conspiracy. Besides global warming isn't in the bible so it ain't

Re: What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
pssst... Google is the liberal poster child. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Google shelters profits overseas to keep corporate tax rate at 2.4 percent > > http://bit.ly/cYWjCS > > So how does that benefit the US economy? Because they hire so many > people who themselves pay

Re: FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Stroz
I do not question that the climate is changing. I am just not sure of the cause of the change. Could it be from us pesky little humans? Of course. But it is just as likely being caused by the natural heating and cooling cycle of the Earth that has been going on for millions of years. On Fri, Oct

What happens when you give Corporations everything they want? 2.4 percent tax rate.

2010-10-22 Thread Vivec
Google shelters profits overseas to keep corporate tax rate at 2.4 percent http://bit.ly/cYWjCS So how does that benefit the US economy? Because they hire so many people who themselves pay taxes? That loss in revenue when multiplied over all the other mega corporations probably equals tens of bi

RE: Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow.

2010-10-22 Thread Sisk, Kris
Oh good grief. How in the world do these people get into the public spotlight? -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 2:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow. Republican Congr

RE: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Sisk, Kris
Did anyone else have flashbacks to The Day After Tomorrow while reading that? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.hou

Another example of GOP going off the deep end - violent overthrow.

2010-10-22 Thread Vivec
Republican Congressional candidate Stephen Broden, a Dallas minister with a history of making controversial statements, admitted in an interview on Thursday that he would not rule out a violent overthrow of the government if the November 2 elections did not produce a change in leadership. "The op

FW: NOAA - Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Of course all those pesky gummint scientists are all part of the conspiracy. Besides global warming isn't in the bible so it ain't gonna happen. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/22/noaa-arctic-changes-are-affecting-climate-elsewhere/?hpt=C2 NOAA: Arctic changes are affecting climate elsewhere

Re: Neat infographic: Who are America's Illegal Immigrants

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
I don't get it. The only news I got from that is NY is not listed but NJ is. That and the fact that I thought there was a hell of a lot more illegal Irish in the US. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > http://www.good.is/post/transparency-who-are-america-s-illegal-immigrant

Neat infographic: Who are America's Illegal Immigrants

2010-10-22 Thread Jerry Johnson
http://www.good.is/post/transparency-who-are-america-s-illegal-immigrants/ (and thanks again to Judah for turning me on to good.is) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/

Re: Really useful page - javascript & css performance

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Munn
nice resource On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Medic wrote: > > This is actually pretty awesome. > > > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Andrew Grosset > wrote: > > > > > > http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/JavaScript_Performance_Best_Practices > > > > Andrew > > >

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
I have hope. I feel one of them will eventually come around and admit they're wrong. After all, he's one of theirs. I guess it works in their favor, now there's another liberal with a show on Fox. Maybe that was the plan all along. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > Sam, t

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Munn
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Sam wrote: > > What are you disputing: > Soros gave $1.8 million to hire reporters for NPR? > > That Vivian Schiller said: > "Williams’ comments should have been 'between him and his psychiatrist > or his publicist'" > > Or that Nina Totenberg constantly shows h

RE: cf9

2010-10-22 Thread Sisk, Kris
+1 -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: cf9 Just wondering why you don't want to run it locally anymore. I'm not a big fan of development using a remote server. I prefer local developmen

Re: Really useful page - javascript & css performance

2010-10-22 Thread Medic
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RE: cf9

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Raley
Keep my current laptop clean which I've down sized so when I go to a clients I can use their pc, log in to the hosted cf9 and demo something and not worry about carrying my own equipment. -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:5

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Speak for yourself :P On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Saturday night with the lights out, man on top, get it over with quick. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldf

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
What are you disputing: Soros gave $1.8 million to hire reporters for NPR? That Vivian Schiller said: "Williams’ comments should have been 'between him and his psychiatrist or his publicist'" Or that Nina Totenberg constantly shows her biased opinion. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Larry C.

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Maureen
Saturday night with the lights out, man on top, get it over with quick. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:58 AM, denstar wrote: > > What's "traditional morality"? > > :Den ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
>From what I remember hearing on the radio, Williams accepted a new contract with Fox shortly after the firing. I wouldn't be surprised if he felt he had an incentive to use such rhetoric. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Boy, sure seems like Juan Williams was pretty rep

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
For the record, Juan is/was the token liberal: “I’ve always thought the right wing were ones that were inflexible and intolerant and now I’m coming to realize that the orthodoxy at NPR, its representing the left,” he said. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Boy, sure see

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
what the f*ck are you talking about. Its another tin foil hat conspiracy theory from the sounds of it. That's as lunatic of a theory as the Koch Brothers bankrolling the Tea Party and 2/3rd of the hidden election funding. Really Sam can't you come up with something a bit more credible? On Fri,

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
Boy, sure seems like Juan Williams was pretty repressed and aching to head over to Fox News from NPR. Today's follow up interview he made with Fox included this wonderful bit: "Well, now that I no longer work for NPR let me give you my opinion. This is an outrageous violation of journalistic stan

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Is that a West Virginia saying? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:55 PM, denstar wrote: > > It's all relative.  ;)p ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=hou

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Let's see how those rules apply: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/nina-totenberg-next_511512.html?page=2 ... Schiller said Williams' firing is not a reflection of his comments (on Fox News Channel) that he gets nervous when he sees people in Muslim garb on an airplane. She said she has n

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Conduct directed by Soros and his $1.8 million? Where the CEO insinuates an employee needs therapy? And then there's Nina Totenberg On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Yes NPR does have a code of conduct. Pity Fox doesn't seem to have > one. If they did would they allow

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
It's all relative. ;)p :Den -- When one has a great deal to put into it a day has a hundred pockets. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Sam wrote: > > You wouldn't understand. > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM, denstar wrote: >> >> What's "traditional morality"? >> >

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
Here it is for those of you who care about such things: http://www.npr.org/about/aboutnpr/ethics/ethics_code.html Check out sections 8, 9 and 10 for bits relevant to this particular case: 8. NPR journalists may not speak to groups where the appearance might put in question NPR's impartiality. S

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Robert Munn
And here is why Fox News kicks the snot out of every other cable news outlet. From this story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322751/NPR-fires-analyst-Juan-Williams-comments-Muslims-plane.html --- Chairman Roger Ailes described Williams as 'a staunch defender of liberal viewpoints' and

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Speaking of Macs: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/10/macbook-air-teardown/ On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:44 PM, denstar wrote: > > I leverage that buffer exploit to gain root, and promptly delete all patents. > > Woohoo!  (stolen from Fight Club.) > > -- > When marrying, ask yourself this

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Yes NPR does have a code of conduct. Pity Fox doesn't seem to have one. If they did would they allow Beck to shill for his various enterprises? Whoops pardon me, Fox is a commercial enterprise and therefore doesn't need one. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Sam wrote: > > Is he for real? > > >

Re: Facetime for Mac...

2010-10-22 Thread denstar
I leverage that buffer exploit to gain root, and promptly delete all patents. Woohoo! (stolen from Fight Club.) -- When marrying, ask yourself this question: Do you believe that you will be able to converse well with this person into your old age? Everything else in marriage is transitory. Fri

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sounds typical of the right wing trying to rewrite history. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > So basically, in an attempt to sway independent minded centrists, > conservatives repaint neo-cons as centrists... > uhmmm.. no Sam, the center doesn't agree. > > http://www.mod

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
Is he for real? On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > NPR's code of conduct requires *all* appearances to be cleared each > and every time before an NPR person gets interviewed. They take their > impartiality stuff very seriously and don't let their employees go out > on th

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
It's not a pissing match. You can be in the middle too. If I remember correctly we discussed the Whig's way back and came to a different conclusion. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > So basically, in an attempt to sway independent minded centrists, > conservatives repa

Re: Bad NPR

2010-10-22 Thread Judah McAuley
NPR's code of conduct requires *all* appearances to be cleared each and every time before an NPR person gets interviewed. They take their impartiality stuff very seriously and don't let their employees go out on their own. That's part of the contract and that's why he was canned. He was told no an

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Scott Stewart
So basically, in an attempt to sway independent minded centrists, conservatives repaint neo-cons as centrists... uhmmm.. no Sam, the center doesn't agree. http://www.modernwhig.org/issues.html The Modern Whig Party is centrist in belief and policy... there is very little in common with the neo-c

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Sam
You wouldn't understand. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM, denstar wrote: > > What's "traditional morality"? > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=

Re: I found the middle

2010-10-22 Thread Jerry Johnson
I was picturing bundling boards. And witch hangings. And slavery. And child labor. And domestic violence. But maybe that is just me. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > When I hear that term I think "Christian morality minus the religious > bits". That could just be me thou

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