RE: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Eric Roberts
You probably won't find petroleum, but it could have a lot of mineral wealth. -Original Message- From: PT [mailto:cft...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 12:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Messed up priorities >> Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated pla

Re: Brown Shirts Wannabes on the Move

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"How about we illegally purge voters from the rolls within 90 days of an election, ignore injunctions to stop illegal behavior, use flawed and prejudicial algorithms as the basis for the purge and ignore all the people who point out the very much alive and eligible voters that we've disenfranchise

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, PT wrote: > I think the conditions are so specific, that is about what it would > take. Sure, there has to be other life out there, but I think it is > rarer than it might seem it should be. It will be interesting to see if the Drake Equation (http://bit.ly/LR

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Solar power on an unimaginative scale. Although frankly it may be a good thing, if things like the really dirty industries etc could be moved off the earth. However for industrialization the asteroid belt is much better. Really cheap resources, and relatively cheap transportation to market. Thing

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You guys are looking at it back aspwards. We fit these circumstances so well because we evolved with them in effect. It would have been amazing if they were different, but its the environment we are in. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, PT wrote: > > I think the conditions are so specific, that i

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Maureen
They'll find something up there that they can exploit. Oil is hardly their only product. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > given that crude oil is organic plant material that's been fossilized > it would be quite the thing if petroleum is found on the moon. > > On Mon,

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread PT
I think the conditions are so specific, that is about what it would take. Sure, there has to be other life out there, but I think it is rarer than it might seem it should be. On 6/11/2012 1:59 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, PT wrote: > >> It really amazes me

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:52 PM, PT wrote: > It really amazes me the number of things that had to go exactly right > to allow life to form on Earth. An infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters. There are lots of stars out there. -Cameron ... ~~

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No a better way of looking at it is that we are perfectly adapted to live in the current conditions of earth. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:13 PM, PT wrote: > >>> Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plant life. >> > > Yes.  The Earth was probably not solidified at the time. >

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
There are some good theories that suggest that the moon was a part of earth once, but that was well before the carboniferous age. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> given that crude oil is organic plant material that

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread PT
It really amazes me the number of things that had to go exactly right to allow life to form on Earth. First the universe exists. Our star is just the right size and temperature. Earth is just the right distance from it. The moon exists and is just the right size and has just the right orbit. The

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread PT
>> Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plant life. > Yes. The Earth was probably not solidified at the time. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/d

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:07 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > I'm fairly certain it would have predated life. Not sure either though. > Quick search yielded this: How old is the Moon? Almost the entire Solar System formed 4.6 billion years ago, when the solar nebula collapsed. But astronomers

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM, GMoney wrote: > Wasn't the moon once part of earth? > That is one theory. I think it's gained more support recently. > Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plant life. I'm fairly certain it would have predated life. Not sure either tho

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > given that crude oil is organic plant material that's been fossilized > it would be quite the thing if petroleum is found on the moon. > Wasn't the moon once part of earth? Not sure if the event they think created the moon predated plan

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
given that crude oil is organic plant material that's been fossilized it would be quite the thing if petroleum is found on the moon. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Maureen wrote: > > I cannot count the times I have had to explain some clueless fool that > money spent by NASA is not put in the

Re: Brown Shirts Wannabes on the Move

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"excluding food would make it somewhat less regressive. I don't want to say what a good idea, though, when the devil is in that sort of detail. " There are plenty of regressive taxes in place now. As mentioned before, the gas, tobacco, alcohol, and tanning bed taxes are all regressive taxes. S

Re: Brown Shirts Wannabes on the Move

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Gas and cigarettes already heavily taxed." And alcohol. And tanning beds. J - GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, "I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,"

Re: Brown Shirts Wannabes on the Move

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"What's to keep the uber-rich, for example, from buying their consumer goods in the Bahamas or someplace with no sales tax?" Tariffs. J - The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much. - Ronald Reagan ~

Re: Brown Shirts Wannabes on the Move

2012-06-11 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Disagree with you both on that one. Demand for some products is inelastic." Yes. You are correct. People have to buy food, pay for clothes, etc. However, they can spend less on those items. Women can put off buying a Coach handbag for a month or two. Men can wait on buying the newest compen

RE: Where is MySQL

2012-06-11 Thread Scott Raley
Yep I have 5.5. I will download the MSI again and see what is going on. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Where is MySQL MySQL 5.1 and 5.5 are supported on Windows Server 2008 5.0 is not.

Re: Messed up priorities

2012-06-11 Thread Maureen
I cannot count the times I have had to explain some clueless fool that money spent by NASA is not put in the rocket and blasted into space. It is spent right here on earth, providing jobs and as you stated, a very good return on investment in terms of the discoveries and inventions. My only objec