This mess of spin and disinformation has been circling via the
propaganda machine for a quite a while.
Why don't you take each of those statements and look at current
reality and make your decision about who to vote for based on fact,
and not oppositional spin?
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:35 AM, G
"Romney meanwhile is quite unashamedly out to engineer another massive wealth
transfer."
Another? Like the one Obama engineered?
You know, sending billions to his favorite unions, donors, and backers
(think GM, Buffet, Solyendra).
J
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Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percen
"But if Obama is elected theres a slim chance he might try something bold."
That is frightening.
Why wait though? Maybe we'll get an October surprise.
Will we invade Iran or Syria.
I'd say it's got to be Iran since Russia is parking cruiser at Syria now.
J
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Ninety percent of politicians g
"Wow, you've resorted to simple minded blog headline smear. No basis for
any of it and presented in a way that it's not worth debunking."
Only the true believers are buying in. They'll believe anything as long it
as it supports their view.
The Washington Post (the Post no less) gave Obama fou
I think Obama has decided that there is no point in trying to play nice.
And about time, I say.
Romney meanwhile is quite unashamedly out to engineer another massive
wealth transfer.
that's what *I* think.
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> In many ways I can't disagree ..
In many ways I can't disagree ... But here's my calculus: if Mitt's elected his
next campaign will begin in Jan 2013 and he'll do everything in his power to
maintain status quo until then.
Like Obama has.
But if Obama is elected theres a slim chance he might try something bold.
On Jul 14, 2
"The GOP was all for the utter nonsense about Obama needing to show his
damn birth certificate."
That was never a GOP movement. Tea Party maybe. GOP, nope.
"However they are against their candidate submitting his TAX RETURNS which is
what candidates are supposed to do."
I don't know if the
"The bailouts were voted into agreement by both sides of Government. "
The bailouts certainly originated with both sides. Then again, both sides
suck, so . . .
"The current US Administration inherited an economic nightmare."
They were at rock bottom and kept digging.
"The current GOP Admi
"No, I'm saying we voting Americans have done a terrible job. We keep
voting for people who perpetuate the status quo, I.e. lobbyist-based
legislative and executive."
Can't disagree with this. It does lead one to ask if you'll continue the
trend?
"Vote Mitt. Won't matter. Bush=Bill=Bush=Bara
Wow, you've resorted to simple minded blog headline smear. No basis
for any of it and presented in a way that it's not worth debunking.
So pathetic.
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Dana wrote:
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> ooh there have been quite FEW updates to the story
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> http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/104930/mi
Really? That's what you got against the man is he should release more
tax returns?
I'm sure you have no interest in how Obama paid to go to Columbia or
Harvard but we know Mitt was very successful and we need no know if he
paid every penny in tax. Gietner, now he's a different story.
What is it y
ooh there have been quite FEW updates to the story
http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/104930/mitts-luck-the-mistaken-focus-99-pivot-point
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/bain-capital-mitt-romney-outsourcing-china-global-tech
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/13/mitt-romney-bain-sec_n
No, I'm saying we voting Americans have done a terrible job.
We keep voting for people who perpetuate the status quo, I.e. lobbyist-based
legislative and executive.
Vote Mitt. Won't matter. Bush=Bill=Bush=Barak.
If you're looking to break the cycle, he'll Mitt's the ultimate slow and steady
He has submitted less tax returns than Obama, Clinton and the Bushes before
him.
That's why this is a talking point, and the fact that we know about the
offshore accounts etc. is why it is a valid issue.
"WILLIAMSBURG, Va. Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley, in an interview with ABC
News today, calle
He submitted his tax returns, that why we all know about the offshore accounts.
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On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> Incredible. The GOP was all for the utter nonsense about Obama needing to
> show his damn birth certificate.
> However they are against their candidate submitting
If all the rest is true that's actually a great record :-)
The bailouts were voted into agreement by both sides of Government.
The current US Administration inherited an economic nightmare.
The current GOP Administration has blocked nearly every attempt they have
made to implement plans to corre
Incredible. The GOP was all for the utter nonsense about Obama needing to
show his damn birth certificate.
However they are against their candidate submitting his TAX RETURNS which
is what candidates are supposed to do.
They are alright with a sitting President who refuses to disclose his past
fin
" the DOW was <7000K and now it's over 10K "
Nice. The DOW was at 12000 in June of 2008. It was still at 1 at the
beginning of October. The smart investors steadily fled seeing the
imminent Obama Victory.
"the GDP was -8% and today it's 2.2+% (it'd be over 3.2 if not for all the
gov't l
" Despite the fact I'm probably voting for him (regretfully), I find the
list below interesting for this reason: "
That is terribly unsettling.
You seem to be admitting that President Obama has done a horrible job and
yet you won't be able to find another candidate on the ballot to vote for
(or
Unfortunately none of that changes the last 30 years of policy that's resulted
in massive US citizen and gov't debt via perverse incentives.
And all of it paid for with foreign savings funneled through a broken
under-capitalized banking system.
Bottom line is that no president of either party
" Holder (and Obama if he knew about it, I'm not sure if he did) deserves
plenty of blame for continuing and/or expanding it. "
There is a reason why President Obama invoked Executive Privilege on the
1600 documents about the program they started.
The Supreme Court has ruled that Executive Privi
"Just an FYI, Fast and Furious was started in 2006 by AG Alberto Gonzalez
of the Bush administration.
Revise history much or just brainwashed by the Ministry of Truth?
Wide Receiver was started and ran during the Bush regime in cooperation
with the Mexican government. The guns were monitored at
Since Obama took office:
- the GDP was -8% and today it's 2.2+% (it'd be over 3.2 if not for
all the gov't layoffs in state/local -- particularly teachers)
- the DOW was <7000K and now it's over 10K
- the Recovery Act provided ~4million jobs (according to the CBO)
- over 26
I've gathered from listening to Romney, a lot actually, that he really
has a sense of entitlement over this.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Michael Dinowitz
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> Maybe he'll turn it all around and push for a more fair tax and use himself
> as an example. :)
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> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at
well if he would release the information that would kill the story
immediately. People cannot help but think that there something there
given all the contortions his campaign doing to justify hiding the
amount in the off shore bank accounts.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Michael Dinowitz
wrot
It may be politic to change the topic then.
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> No..the tiny mind.
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> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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>> who me?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Maureen wrote:
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>>> Practicing to be the poster child for Spinja
Despite the fact I'm probably voting for him (regretfully), I find the list
below interesting for this reason:
If real wages aren't rising in our country (for ~30 years) and the middle class
is being gutted, then the 1%ers MUST fill the wage gap somehow.
Both parties have clearly decided to do
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