Re: what... totally normal.

2012-07-23 Thread Vivec
*wiping tears from eyes* On 24 July 2012 00:13, Ras Tafari wrote: > > > http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/23/12906188-goat-man-spotted-in-utah-mountains > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amaz

what... totally normal.

2012-07-23 Thread Ras Tafari
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Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I got to see the northern lights for the first time in my life on my trip to Canada a few weeks ago. Not a lot of colors, but very cool nonetheless!" There was a solar storm in 1859 in which the Aurorae where seen around the world. It was such

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
Obviously they did. http://iceagenow.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Temps_Dropping.jpg . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > The last solar maximum was 2000 and fell down to close to zero in > 2010. If the solar cycle is strongly correlated to the temperature of > the ea

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Uh...why would you equate the perfectly reasonable idea of natural > earth cycles, > to the debunked theories of flat earth or the earth being the center of the > universe?" > > Just as an aside related to cycles, the sun is experienc

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Judah McAuley
The last solar maximum was 2000 and fell down to close to zero in 2010. If the solar cycle is strongly correlated to the temperature of the earth, temperatures would have been falling from 2000 to 2010. Obviously, they did not. Judah On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Uh.

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
I was sloppy in my response: unless I'm mistaken, yes, there is a scientific theory with the words "global warming" in it, but, no, it is not a tested predictive theory of climate on any type of useful basis (I.e., accurately predicts weather locally or globally). I've heard it described this

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Uh...why would you equate the perfectly reasonable idea of natural earth cycles, to the debunked theories of flat earth or the earth being the center of the universe?" Just as an aside related to cycles, the sun is experience an unusually high amount of activity the summer. This is causing

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
So CO2 levels went way down in US and Europe but went way up in china and India. Not that CO2 has anything to do with warming in real life but in your fantasy it does so... Didn't I mention this was going to happen? So what was the goal again? . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Gruss Gott wro

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:38 AM, GMoney wrote: > > there is no scientific theory around global warmingso don't be throwing > that word around. Of course there is. The theory says that increased concentrations of CO2 and Methane (along with other gases to lesser extents) act as an insulation

RE: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
Hail usually happens during late spring and summer storms, not colder weather storms. It originates high in the atmosphere where temps are below freezing...it has no bearing on ground temps other than warmer ground temps fuel storms to make them more powerful and more likely to produce hail...and

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
We agree: - Cycles is an observation not a theory - global warming is an observation not a theory They're actually the same thing just with a different time horizon: - "these numbers over these years seem to cycle up and down" - "these numbers over these years seem to go up steeply" We don't k

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
We don't know. We only know that formal analysis of data shows special cause variation happening for about the last 10-12 years ... Maybe longer ... We don't know what that cause is, the nature of the physics, nor do we have any predictive scientific theories of those physics. Thus all we can

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Well, I would say the analogy is hypotheses based on casual observation > (flat Earth) versus scientific theories based on macroscopic, precise > measurement or at least predictive calculation (relativity, the standard > model, etc) > > For

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
haha that shit right there made me lol. Sometimes you're just too funny Gruss. . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Well, I would say the analogy is hypotheses based on casual observation (flat > Earth) versus scientific theories based on macroscopic, precise measurement

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
Well, I would say the analogy is hypotheses based on casual observation (flat Earth) versus scientific theories based on macroscopic, precise measurement or at least predictive calculation (relativity, the standard model, etc) For example, "cycles" is a reasonable, but casual observation as in:

Re: interesting take on American Democracy

2012-07-23 Thread Judah McAuley
Surprising amount of time and effort spent not reading the actual article. Seems like the time might have been better spent debunking it by reading and analyzing the claims made in it. Then again, I suppose that route has the unacceptable risk of not backing up your preconceived notions, so I supp

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
Denier. . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:51 PM, GMoney wrote: >> >> It's pretty clear that a climatic change has been unleashed and we really >> have no idea how fast it'll accelerate or what will happen. We could be >> very well on our way to what Venus or Mars are like or maybe it's all just >>

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread GMoney
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Maybe we'll adapt, maybe not, who knows? > > It's pretty clear that a climatic change has been unleashed and we really > have no idea how fast it'll accelerate or what will happen. We could be > very well on our way to what Venus or Mars a

Re: interesting take on American Democracy

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
I didn't read the article. I thought it would be more interesting to look up the author: Sarah Robinson She is a social futurist. Social futurist? In my opinion, that alone is enough to discredit anything she says. BTW, her PR agent is doing a horrendous job. There's not even a wiki entry o

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"It's pretty clear that a climatic change has been unleashed and we really have no idea how fast it'll accelerate or what will happen. " When was climate change ever leashed? J - We paid for this instead of a generation of health insurance, or an alternative energy grid, or a brand-new syste

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Gruss Gott
Maybe we'll adapt, maybe not, who knows? It's pretty clear that a climatic change has been unleashed and we really have no idea how fast it'll accelerate or what will happen. We could be very well on our way to what Venus or Mars are like or maybe it's all just "cycles" and the earth is reall

Re: interesting take on American Democracy

2012-07-23 Thread William Bowen
C S A! C S A! ;-) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > http://www.alternet.org/visions/156071/conservative_southern_values_revived%3A_how_a_brutal_strain_of_american_aristocrats_have_come_to_rule_america_?page=entire > > Conservative Southern Values Revived: How a Brutal S

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
Yes, now stop sitting on your head. . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > That is only a theory, therefore it is invalid. > > See what I did there? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! htt

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
The east coast had hail during 100 degree temperatures last week. . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "The same week, Saudi authorities reported that it had rained in Mecca > despite a temperature of 109 degrees, the hottest downpour in the planet's > history." > > No r

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Sam wrote: > It's just another cycle. > No need to adjust > That is only a theory, therefore it is invalid. See what I did there? ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"rollingstone? Really?" How about this line: "The same week, Saudi authorities reported that it had rained in Mecca despite a temperature of 109 degrees, the hottest downpour in the planet's history." No reference available unfortunately. Anyway, let me present a source just a reliable as R

Re: Olympics!

2012-07-23 Thread Erika L. Rich
NM. Found one. http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-telephoto-lens/ On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > Oh yeah? Linkage please :) > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < > ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > >> >> E

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
It's just another cycle. No need to adjust . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:09 AM, GMoney wrote: > >> I've decided it doesn't really matter. If 108 is the new normal summer here >> in KC...we'll adapt. We already have. > > > I think ea

Re: Olympics!

2012-07-23 Thread Erika L. Rich
Oh yeah? Linkage please :) On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > Everything is in HD now days, that and you can turn your iPhone into a > telephoto lens for $50 bucks. > > ~

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:09 AM, GMoney wrote: > I've decided it doesn't really matter. If 108 is the new normal summer here > in KC...we'll adapt. We already have. I think each locality will adapt in their own way. Each having it's own unique challenges related to water availability, power c

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread GMoney
Yes, i've read all that. In the mean time, it was 106 yesterday, and it's going to be 108 today. Worst summer in KC since 1936. Arctic ice is melting, blah blah. Hey, i know these things don't mean global warming. I know some people are always going to doubt it for political reasons. that's fine

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
You realize while we're having a drought it hasn't stopped raining in the UK and I think yesterday was the first time this year it almost hit 80 degrees. So when they say "global', they mean local. And there's this: The IAC reported that IPCC lead authors fail to give "due consideration ... to

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread GMoney
It's been WELL over 100 for going on 3 straight weeks here in Kansas City. I have a new take on global warming. It's real, it's happening, but.so what? Life is amazingly adaptable. The other day it cooled off to 101, so my buddies and I went out side and played basketball for 2 hours. Ask a

Re: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
rollingstone? Really? . On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > From: > http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719 > (http://bit.ly/NLLFlG) > > If the pictures of those towering wildfires in Colorado haven't convinced > you, or t

Re: In '02, Bain invested in software development in China (Updated)

2012-07-23 Thread Sam
He's over his head and lazy. Nothing more to see here. Tee-Time. . On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Maureen wrote: > > I'd give a gold dollar to see the documents they presented to him on > his first day in office that caused such a radical change in his > position on so many issues. > > I'm u

Re: Romney sources say if he knew he had to release taxes, He wouldn't have run.

2012-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Maybe Ken Starr is available. " I'd rather it be Ryan Seacrest. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton ~~~

Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

2012-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
From: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719 (http://bit.ly/NLLFlG) If the pictures of those towering wildfires in Colorado haven't convinced you, or the size of your AC bill this summer, here are some hard numbers about climate change: June broke o

Re: Newsroom - HBO Show

2012-07-23 Thread Cameron Childress
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Showed my wife this clip and 10 minutes later we subscribed to HBO. > > Watched 3 episodes tonight. Thoroughly enjoying it. I'm a couple of episodes behind, but it's a great show! -Cameron