Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
You are correct. I'm just very frustrated. I know the sky isn't falling. I know that the world isn't going to end tomorrow. I also know that things are far worse in many ways than they have ever been in our country before. I'm sorry Jerry if I offended you that is truly not my intent, and I'm

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
I do not question that your complaints are true. However, I question your assumption that none of us are aware, that we do not care, and that we have taken no action. You alienate those who would be your allies by labeling them without knowledge of what they know or do. I have been at war with

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > bat-shit crazy rantings > And there we have it. Bat shit crazy rantings. You see a list of those abuses and you don't rightly say, wow, things are messed up, we need to fix them. We need to have a line in the sand and say this far

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
Do you have any idea what I was paraphrasing there? On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Unfortunately for me it is statements like this that move us from reasoned > discourse towards bat-shit crazy rantings of the guy in that house no one > will let their kids trick-or

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Unfortunately for me it is statements like this that move us from reasoned discourse towards bat-shit crazy rantings of the guy in that house no one will let their kids trick-or-treat at. On Friday, November 2, 2012, LRS Scout wrote: > > ... > I just hope we can avoid being enemies in war

The Economist endorsement of Obama

2012-11-01 Thread Judah McAuley
The Economist does a really good job laying out where Obama has done well and where he has royally fucked up (in their eyes) and follows it up with an analysis of Romney. It's pretty damning on both sides. And while I don't completely agree with everything they wrote, I think it does a good job of

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
Yes it's a photo op, but a ton more people are going to show up with good to donate just to see him, and say they did it with him. It's a trade off. Both sides are guilty of similar tactics and in this election the complaints I'm seeing all of you making are astonishing to me. While 16 year old

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Dana
yeah god knows there was a screaming need for toilet paper in Arlington ::eyeroll:: He did it some more after that, someplace else in Virginia. The visuals were good, you know. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If he had written a check, those people in Arlington, VA wouldn't h

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
If he had written a check, those people in Arlington, VA wouldn't have had their 18 rolls of toilet paper. Oh, the humanity. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Dana wrote: > > ok... if he was actually trying to help why not just write a check? Collect > cash donations? Becuause it wouldn't provid

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Dana
ok... if he was actually trying to help why not just write a check? Collect cash donations? Becuause it wouldn't provide the visuals of the candidate stacking Campbell's soup is why. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:57 AM, GMoney wrote: > > im with sam on this one. Yeah, it's a facade and done for publ

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Dana
I'd like to see that. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:29 AM, GMoney wrote: > > All candidates do this kind of thing. Do you really think Candidate Obama > didn't do this same stuff in 2008?? I'm sure if we combed the 2008 > campaign, we'd find all sort of similar superficiality from both McCain and >

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Dana
tsk. Dildo. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Give me 15 minutes alone with them, a baseball bat and a nutcracker. I'll > show them how wrong they are. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > > the thing is, I am sure they have people telling them to shut up,

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
Give me 15 minutes alone with them, a baseball bat and a nutcracker. I'll show them how wrong they are. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Dana wrote: > > the thing is, I am sure they have people telling them to shut up, but they > are s convinced they are right. > ~

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Dana
the thing is, I am sure they have people telling them to shut up, but they are s convinced they are right. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > The politician. Sorry. > On Nov 1, 2012 7:30 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > > > > Is your WTF for my statement, or the politicians com

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Erika L. Rich
Ignore me. Didn't realize there was 378 responses after the one I replied to ... my eyes got blurry. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > A lot of churches of different denominations (Baptist, Methodist, > Catholic, Presbyterian) ask that you donate 10% of your earnings ... a

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Erika L. Rich
A lot of churches of different denominations (Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Presbyterian) ask that you donate 10% of your earnings ... a tithe they call it ... I hear it from many around me, down here in good olde Georgia. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think its grea

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > > In other words, the claims on that page are from the LDS PR machine, and > therefore, questionable. Questionable is your retort? Really? You don't have anything but questionable? So Roneys a coldhearted cheap bastard because you find another chu

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > > > > I'm not the one doing the redefining: > > > > 1.generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless: to > > devote one's life to charity. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_H

Re: More on Benghazi

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
It's far worse than what is being currently reported. The water cooler talk, and more importantly the missing voices, are bad. Seriously, people need to be hitting up their reps about this issue. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > Wow, CBS is finally covering Benghazi? > > > htt

More on Benghazi

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Wow, CBS is finally covering Benghazi? http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57544026/sources-key-task-force-not-convened-during-benghazi-consulate-attack Counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not c

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > I'm not the one doing the redefining: > > 1.generous actions or donations to aid the poor, ill, or helpless: to > devote one's life to charity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Humanitarian_Services Tyler Charitable Foundation http://www.biz

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > > And of the organizations listed on that page, how many, other than United > > Way, are charities? > > Now you want to redefine charity to fit your need to hate? > I'm not the one doing the red

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Maureen wrote: > > And of the organizations listed on that page, how many, other than United > Way, are charities? Now you want to redefine charity to fit your need to hate? >> And this: >> But the release of these tax records leaves no doubt about one thing: >>

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
The politician. Sorry. On Nov 1, 2012 7:30 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > Is your WTF for my statement, or the politicians comment? > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > Seriously. WTF? > > On Nov 1, 2012 5:43 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > > > > > > > As a rape survivor and

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
Is your WTF for my statement, or the politicians comment? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Seriously. WTF? > On Nov 1, 2012 5:43 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > > > > As a rape survivor and also a mother who lost 5 babies to miscarriage, > > until these politicians suffer an

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
Yeah, cause that is were innocent people who were railroaded by the FBI belong. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I can't agree with you on that one. > > I am glad that Peltier is still in prison. > ~~

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Sam wrote: > > Try here > > http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindurgy/2012/05/17/an-inside-look-at-the-millions-mitt-romney-has-given-away/ > And of the organizations listed on that page, how many, other than United Way, are charities? > > > And this: > But the rel

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Not a big fan of the pardon thing with 'lame duck' presidents. Never have been." Probably because it's been abused. I wonder if Obama will give a pre-emptive pardon to Holder. A get out jail free card. If so, it surely can't be valid. J - I think that I'm a better speechwriter than my spee

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
Not a big fan of the pardon thing with 'lame duck' presidents. Never have been. On Nov 1, 2012 6:27 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > I can't agree with you on that one. > > I am glad that Peltier is still in prison. > > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Maureen wrote: > > > > I don't think

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I can't agree with you on that one. I am glad that Peltier is still in prison. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I don't think so. I can't imagine those kind of pardons being sanctioned > by the PTB behind the Democratic party. > I'd love to see him pardon Leonard Peltier.

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
+1,000,000,000 On Nov 1, 2012 4:56 PM, "William Bowen" wrote: > > To my liberal friends who have said they'd leave should Romney (or > McCain before him) be elected, please gtfo. > To my conservative friends who've said they'd leave should Obama be > re-elected, please gtfo. > > Threatening to l

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
Seriously. WTF? On Nov 1, 2012 5:43 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > As a rape survivor and also a mother who lost 5 babies to miscarriage, > until these politicians suffer an equivalent stressors - if such existed - > they should drink a large cup of STFU. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Larry

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread William Bowen
Ah, I see. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Sam wrote: > > They are not in Staten Island > > . > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, William Bowen wrote: >> >> The red cross isn't where? >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
I guess, I don't remember you being here then. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It most certainly did. You have a short memory. > On Nov 1, 2012 4:44 PM, "Sam" wrote: > >> >> Not on this list. >> >> . >> >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> > >> >

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
It most certainly did. You have a short memory. On Nov 1, 2012 4:44 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Not on this list. > > . > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > Happened 4 years ago, and 4 years before that, and 4 years before > that.. > > > > ~~

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Try here http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindurgy/2012/05/17/an-inside-look-at-the-millions-mitt-romney-has-given-away/ And this: But the release of these tax records leaves no doubt about one thing: Mitt Romney is an extraordinarily, remarkably, astonishingly generous man. A good man. Maybe even

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
Last year, in the middle of a presidential campaign. If you average his giving over 10 years, it averages to approximate 13%, with some of that going to the Romney controlled Tyler Foundation, and at a minimum 10% paying his titles to the Mormon Church. And I reiterate, the donations were to the

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread William Bowen
Is that an "E" ticket ride? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Maureen wrote: > > It's called Tithes, and the Bible states you will be sent to hell if you > don't pay them. So more like buying your Heaven ticket. > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> >> I think its great he

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
It's called Tithes, and the Bible states you will be sent to hell if you don't pay them. So more like buying your Heaven ticket. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think its great he has donated as much as he has to charity. One thing I > think that gets overlooked, thoug

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
They are not in Staten Island . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > The red cross isn't where? > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/143027215

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
The worst case, high-risk policy in California, which covers people like me with 1)cancer 2)ulcers and 3)endocrine neoplasia is only $800 a month. Don't you live in Cali now? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I'll know better next week. But I don't think that I can afford

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
The election of any politician or the passage of any legislation, no matter how foul, should not be sufficient reason to cause someone to leave their country. If it is, the person leaving isn't much of a citizen. They are only a loudmouth. "My country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept rig

Re: another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
As a rape survivor and also a mother who lost 5 babies to miscarriage, until these politicians suffer an equivalent stressors - if such existed - they should drink a large cup of STFU. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > giving his opinion on rape and abortion: > > > http:/

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
I don't think so. I can't imagine those kind of pardons being sanctioned by the PTB behind the Democratic party. I'd love to see him pardon Leonard Peltier. But I don't think this is something he has to worry about until 2017. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I th

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread William Bowen
The red cross isn't where? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Sam wrote: > > I've worked a lot of soup kitchens, that really is a non issue. I can > see it with loaves of bread or something easily tampered with but not > canned items and most non-perishables. > > The fact that the Red Cross isn't

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
I've worked a lot of soup kitchens, that really is a non issue. I can see it with loaves of bread or something easily tampered with but not canned items and most non-perishables. The fact that the Red Cross isn't even there makes the point moot. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:22 PM, William Bowen

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread William Bowen
Heh, according to the articles I found it has to do with the city not being able to verify the salt, fat and fiber content of the foods that are donated. That's a fairly asinine reason... As for the food tampering issue with regards specifically to the red cross (the original point of my post),

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
It will go down once we get rid of Obamacare We had to pass it to find out what was in it: New Obamacare Tax Form Mandates Americans Report Personal Health ID Info to IRS Read more: http://atr.org/new-obamacare-tax-form-mandates-americans-a7285#ixzz2B0XvqoEc . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:06 PM,

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out :P . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > IF Romney does get in I may have to reconsider living in the US. The > best plan I could find that covered my type I diabetes costs over $800 > a month. With the promised dismantl

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Because restaurants that serve food and are certified by the health department are now forced to throw away extra food and the homeless can get it from the dumpster. Since there are no cases of food tampering cans of food that are donated to charity I think it's asinine. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'll know better next week. But I don't think that I can afford $1600 a month for crappy insurance. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:04 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Keep in touch, eh? > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> IF Romney does get in I may have to reconsider living in th

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread GMoney
Keep in touch, eh? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > IF Romney does get in I may have to reconsider living in the US. The > best plan I could find that covered my type I diabetes costs over $800 > a month. With the promised dismantling of the ACA, I can see my health > i

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
IF Romney does get in I may have to reconsider living in the US. The best plan I could find that covered my type I diabetes costs over $800 a month. With the promised dismantling of the ACA, I can see my health insurance rates doubling. In Canada, once you figure in the increased taxes, my health

another republican candidate

2012-11-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
giving his opinion on rape and abortion: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-congressional-candidate-says-the-rape-thing-is-not-cause-for-abortion/2012/10/31/f3a299d8-23a4-11e2-92f8-7f9c4daf276a_story.html -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn: http://www.linke

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread William Bowen
To my liberal friends who have said they'd leave should Romney (or McCain before him) be elected, please gtfo. To my conservative friends who've said they'd leave should Obama be re-elected, please gtfo. Threatening to leave the country if you don't get your way is childish. no matter the side.

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread GMoney
Ughthat's awful. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > We had friends who lived down the street from us who were Mormon. They were > required to meet with the bishop for a 'tithing settlement' (I think that > is what it was called). Cannot say for certain, but I think I re

Re: if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Nice. Retread but still nice. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > The Canadian government has a new immigration plan > > http://bcove.me/mywqblys > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread William Bowen
dunno. Why would it be necessarily "asinine" if he did? Are the reasons I gave below for /not/ accepting certain types of donations somehow illogical? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > Didn't Bloomberg outlaw donations to soup kitchens for that asinine reason? > > . > > On Thu, No

if things really go bad on tuesday

2012-11-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The Canadian government has a new immigration plan http://bcove.me/mywqblys ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.hous

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I think Jerry though has an interesting question. If anyone, ny bet: wall street will get pardons, as will telecos who violated laws, and any riaa-type convictions. which would put a dagger in his presidency's heart for me. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > What I find fu

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Didn't Bloomberg outlaw donations to soup kitchens for that asinine reason? . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:43 PM, William Bowen wrote: > > Not to mention the logistics of getting that donated can of corn to a > distribution center, vetting whether or not it has been tampered > with/expired, etc. >

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Not on this list. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Happened 4 years ago, and 4 years before that, and 4 years before that.. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread William Bowen
Not to mention the logistics of getting that donated can of corn to a distribution center, vetting whether or not it has been tampered with/expired, etc. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > They can better manages the resources that way. They have vendors they buy > from th

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
And get larger salaries. Wasn't Elizabeth Dole making a cool $million a year back in the day? . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > They can better manages the resources that way. They have vendors they buy > from that are equipped to package items in a more usable manner t

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDS_Humanitarian_Services Not from what I just read . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM, J.J. Merrick wrote: > > Actually if you are in "bad" standing you are excommunicated from the > LDS church. Needless to say they do help people but it is usually > people inside t

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
If you are hungry enough, anyone can open a can of corn without a can opener. Can, meet rock. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > They can better manages the resources that way. They have vendors they buy > from that are equipped to packa

RE: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Roberts
They can better manages the resources that way. They have vendors they buy from that are equipped to package items in a more usable manner to be used in disaster relief efforts. That can of corn is pretty useless if you either don't have a manual can opener or electricity to run your electric on

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
What I find funny is those on each side who are convinced their guy is most certainly going to win. It's like listening to fans of opposing football teams talk shit before a game. Sadly, when its all over, fans of the 'winning' team will gloat and go on saying the other team 'sucks' while the 'lo

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
We had friends who lived down the street from us who were Mormon. They were required to meet with the bishop for a 'tithing settlement' (I think that is what it was called). Cannot say for certain, but I think I recall him telling me that they used to bring their tax documents with them as 'proof'

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
Did he give all of that to the church? I thought the 30% was the total of all his donations. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:27 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I'd like to point out he gave roughly 30%, 3 times the requirement. > On Nov 1, 2012 4:21 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > > > > I cannot speak to wher

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Jerry Barnes
"He may get fired in 5 days, but he still has the job for another months..or so." Who you got on your pardon list.? That is, who do you think Obama will pardon on the way out? Will he sell pardons like the Clintons? J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputat

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
I'd like to point out he gave roughly 30%, 3 times the requirement. On Nov 1, 2012 4:21 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > I cannot speak to where the money goes, I only know that in order to be a > member in good standing of the Mormon Church, you are required to make a > tithe. Required. When you ar

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
Most Churches do ask for a tithe, Mormon Church, as far as I know, requires it. No tithe, no soul saving. Yes, it is a choice, but, again, how is it a 'donation' when you are required to pay it? Doesn't that seem more like a 'membership fee'? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Sam wrote: > > Yes

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread J.J. Merrick
Actually if you are in "bad" standing you are excommunicated from the LDS church. Needless to say they do help people but it is usually people inside the church walls first. Very little of their money goes to what we would say is honest helping the poor charitable work. -J.J. On Thu, Nov 1, 201

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread GMoney
Wellwait a second here10% is the recommended threshold for tithing in many churches...but if you don't give that much, you aren't booted out of the church. In fact, I don't think there is any retribution. So when you say "to be a member of the Mormon Church in good standing"what happe

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Yes but I thought all Churches asked for a tithe and not everybody pays up. Don't forget it's choice to be a part of that group that requires a charitable donation. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I cannot speak to where the money goes, I only know that in order to be

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
I cannot speak to where the money goes, I only know that in order to be a member in good standing of the Mormon Church, you are required to make a tithe. Required. When you are required to do give something, regardless of what it is used for, its no longer a 'donation'. BTW - I feel the same way

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
It goes to helping people, that's what churches do. He also gives a lot more than 10% and spreads it out over many worthy causes. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think its great he has donated as much as he has to charity. One thing I > think that gets overlooked, tho

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Scott Stroz
I think its great he has donated as much as he has to charity. One thing I think that gets overlooked, though, is that to be a member of the Mormon church you are required to give the church 10% (at least) of your earnings every year. To me, that is not 'charity', its more like 'membership dues'

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Wasn't there a huge scandal with donations to the Clinton Library before he left office? Romney donated millions to charity, only a true hater can pick that a part to a few donations and find a way to make in dishonorable. Big picture please. Are you saying he didn't donate to charities that help

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Because they need to drive nice cars? http://politicker.com/2012/11/staten-island-borough-president-dont-give-money-to-the-red-cross/ . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > No...the red cross does not ask for non-perishables. They specifically have > stated that they want m

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
Charitable giving is fine from either side. Donating to political causes and claiming it is charity is not. If Obama donated 100K to the Bill Clinton library and called it a charitable donation, you'd be wailing like a banshee. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Sam wrote: > > Ha > Obviously cha

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
Ha Obviously charitable giving from an R is never good enough for you lot. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Yeah, and a couple of other really needy organizations. Becket Fund for > Religious Liberty which touts the "pray away the gay" therapy, and the The > George W. Bush

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
He probably did. They're not saying how much of a personal donation her made . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > He could have donated that 5,000 he spent at Walmart to the Red Cross and > made a photo op of it that would have at least seemed less contrived and > fake. >

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
They do, they just prefer cash, who doesn't. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > No...the red cross does not ask for non-perishables. They specifically have > stated that they want money or blood donations. > ~~

Re: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
Yeah, and a couple of other really needy organizations. Becket Fund for Religious Liberty which touts the "pray away the gay" therapy, and the The George W. Bush Library. He gave a lot of money to non-profits, but very little to organizations that could legitimately be referred to as charities.

RE: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Donating to corporation known as the Mormon Church isn't really donating to charity since a lot of that goes to their for profit businesses. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-853

Re: Day-Lewis + Spielberg + Lincoln = Awesome

2012-11-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
and you are simply an ass. You don't even know your own history. Or rather you have a very coloured version of it, specifically rose coloured. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > I think this confirms you're insane. > > . > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >>

RE: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Roberts
He could have donated that 5,000 he spent at Walmart to the Red Cross and made a photo op of it that would have at least seemed less contrived and fake. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax:

RE: Interesting piece on Romney's Campaign event masquerading as storm relief

2012-11-01 Thread Eric Roberts
No...the red cross does not ask for non-perishables. They specifically have stated that they want money or blood donations. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.thr

Re: Day-Lewis + Spielberg + Lincoln = Awesome

2012-11-01 Thread Maureen
Sorry about missing your midnight deadline. I actually slept yesterday, which is a rare event. My picks are Thomas Jefferson, Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman. All three made strong decisions that put the country ahead of their personal and political gain. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:34 PM, LRS

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
But is anyone reporting about Libya? Seems Fox is alone on that. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:23 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > It's disgusting. > > The actions, intimidation, and fraud coming from both camps. The lies and > the dirty pool, it's always been there but it's either gotten worse or is > b

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
It's disgusting. The actions, intimidation, and fraud coming from both camps. The lies and the dirty pool, it's always been there but it's either gotten worse or is being reported more. On Nov 1, 2012 1:16 PM, "Cameron Childress" wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Sam wrote: > > > Ju

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Sam wrote: > Just five more days til Obama gets fired. > Between the tight race and the storm, I fully expect this NOT to be decided on election day, but a few days after a-la Bush/Gore. -Cameron ... ~~

Re: Day-Lewis + Spielberg + Lincoln = Awesome

2012-11-01 Thread Sam
I think this confirms you're insane. . On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > FDR saved the nation from a fascist coup > (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml) > and a possible communist revolution. At the same time he founded the > basic safe

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Of course the poles are not connect to the grid, all the electrical wires are down. Or did you mean polls? On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Sam wrote: > >> Why did you even post that? > > > Because something lik

Re: Day-Lewis + Spielberg + Lincoln = Awesome

2012-11-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
FDR saved the nation from a fascist coup (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml) and a possible communist revolution. At the same time he founded the basic safety net for this nation (who doesn't have parent or grandparents benefiting from Social Security), as well a

Re: Day-Lewis + Spielberg + Lincoln = Awesome

2012-11-01 Thread GMoney
FDR's legacy has pretty much been fed to the economic wolves. So depending on your economic views, you may view him a great leader who used "big government" to pull us out of the Great Depressionor as a socialist who prolonged our misery by stifling the private recovery with out of control fed

Re: Thank you Superstorm Sandy

2012-11-01 Thread GMoney
ah, the audacity of hope. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Sam wrote: > > Just five more days til Obama gets fired. > > I hope. > > . > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Cameron Childress > wrote: > > > > Dear Superstorm Sandy, > > > > While I am very mad at you for causing widespread de

Re: Day-Lewis + Spielberg + Lincoln = Awesome

2012-11-01 Thread LRS Scout
I agree with you about Regan. FDR on the other hand.. On Nov 1, 2012 12:15 PM, "GMoney" wrote: > > I'm woefully uneducated about many of our historical presidents. And i've > even watched that "American Presidents" show oni think it's the history > channelseveral times. So most of m

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