RE: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

http://axiomamnesia.com/TrayvonMartinFiles/NWProgramHandbook.pdf I am still looking for the statement from the Sanford Police...but as another point, the rules specifically state to Observe but do not get involved. It is very clearly stated that you are not the person to apprehend you are not th

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

We're all wrong in its use stalk /stôk/ Noun The main stem of a herbaceous plant: "he chewed a stalk of grass". A stealthy pursuit of someone or something On Jul 22, 2013 10:27 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > I would say "hunted" would imply "stalking with intent to harm". > I would say "s

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

I would say "hunted" would imply "stalking with intent to harm". I would say "stalked" would imply "following with a purpose to confront" I would say "follow" would imply the least intent. fwiw, On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:08 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Stalked implies his death was the goal. > >

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Yeah, that was inartful, and a dig at Sam, which was neither warranted nor nice. Thank you for calling me on it. And Sam, my apologies for being an unfunny jerk. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I don't think I agree with the implication that Sam was incoherent in this

RE: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Not according to what the local police, who run the program, released. I will see if I can find it and post a link... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 8:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car c

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

He was a guest in the gated community, he had a right to be there. There is a distinct difference between people who help other people and 'wanna bes' (or, as my wife reminded earlier, 'yuk yuks'). The former do it out of the kindness of their hearts, the latter do it for some inflated sense of '

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

An individual on private property? Who isn't an officer of the law? No problem. There is a difference you know right? This is a gated community. It is all private property. If he were on a public side walk I'd have a different opinion. Also I want to address some stuff you said earlier about w

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

bottom line he had every right to be there, he did belong in the neighborhood, and even if he didn't that would still not be reason enough to kill him On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > It was the home where he was staying, with a relative. How is that not his > home? And

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

his dad's home. Close enough. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Not his home yet again. > On Jul 22, 2013 5:57 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > >> >> Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home with a bag of >> Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He w

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

agreed On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > The fault is the guy with the gun who goes and stalks the unarmed teenager > because he knows he has a gun and therefore thinks he is a badass. > > If someone stalks me in a car across a neighborhood (which he wouldn't > because I'

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

exactly. That is where I am on this. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:49 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I agree as well, that he definitely did not intend to kill. > > Which is why it should have been manslaughter. > > A kid who was minding his own business is dead, and it's Zimmerman's fault > that he is dead.

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Are you really implying that a person who was doing nothing illegal is partly to blame for their death because they did not answer questions that were asked by someone who was NOT a police officer? This coming from the guy who is against DWI check points because they violate your rights? Sorry,

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Gated haha On Jul 22, 2013 9:10 PM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > The whole neighborhood is a private hatred community with the same rights > as Cams building. > On Jul 22, 2013 7:08 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > >> >> And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there is >> security >> whos

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

You're not Tony. Who is this? On Jul 22, 2013 8:29 PM, "Revolution" wrote: > > made about as much sense as his gun comment. > > > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > > > > FWIW, this was the least coherent response I have read in this thread. > > > > And that included

RE: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

No its not. The watch coordinator said it is suggested but not against the rules. On Jul 22, 2013 7:28 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > Actually Martin was a better fighter, despite the fact that Zimmerman was > trained as an MMA fighter (and apparently sucked at it...his trainer > testified that

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

The whole neighborhood is a private hatred community with the same rights as Cams building. On Jul 22, 2013 7:08 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there is security > whose job it is to help deal with these grey areas. You escorted him to >

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Stalked implies his death was the goal. Do you really think that was Zimmerman initial intent? I don't think anyone but Larry has suggested that. And I thought it was his dad's girlfriends place. He had only just moved in and it was only temporary. Yes Zimmerman should have stayed in the car,

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

I don't think I agree with the implication that Sam was incoherent in this thread. While it appears he and I have differing opinions on this, I think Sam was quite reasonable in his replies. On Jul 22, 2013 8:18 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > FWIW, this was the least coherent response I ha

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

waiting for "George Zimmerman cures cancer" or maybe "George Zimmerman brings peace to Mideast". Seriously? If I were that guy, I'd be investigating relocation to Honduras or something. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM, GMoney wrote: > > I heard the family he rescued was white. Oh oh! > > Seri

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

made about as much sense as his gun comment. On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > FWIW, this was the least coherent response I have read in this thread. > > And that included Sam's responses. > > I am not sure what your point was with all of that hero crap/rebuttal? >

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

FWIW, this was the least coherent response I have read in this thread. And that included Sam's responses. I am not sure what your point was with all of that hero crap/rebuttal? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Here's why (I think) you are right and wrong: > The fault is the guy with the gun who goes and stalks the unarmed teenager > because he knows he has a gun and therefore thinks he is a badass. Assumption. The Prosecutors tried to prove Zimmerman stalked him. Result: Unfounded. No Proof. > If som

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

That's the thing, though. If they happened exactly as Zimmerman claimed, I still think he is egregiously guilty of manslaughter. Not under Florida law, obviously, but he is absolutely the instigator in every single action up to the point of final confrontation and in a way that resulted in the dea

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there is security > whose job it is to help deal with these grey areas. You escorted him to > security. > > In Zimmerman's case They are definitely different situations that I don't

RE: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Actually Martin was a better fighter, despite the fact that Zimmerman was trained as an MMA fighter (and apparently sucked at it...his trainer testified that he was soft). Still no excuse. As Scott said. If Zimmerman would have followed the directions of the 911 operator, Martin would still be

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there is security whose job it is to help deal with these grey areas. You escorted him to security. In Zimmerman's case, he initially did the right thing. He had suspicions and called 911. Good job. Still would have sucked to be Martin and

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

He was walking on the lawns very close to the houses. There was a string of burglaries in that neighborhood. He called the police so it's not like he went all vigilante, it's likely he was actually trying to protect his area. The hiding and surprise attack sounds pretty reasonable. . On Mon, Ju

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

It was the home where he was staying, with a relative. How is that not his home? And what does it matter? If it was the home of a friend, it shouldn't make a single bit of difference. You walk to the store to grab some skittles and then walk back to the house, you should not be stalked and killed.

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

For all we know, Martin may have been exercising his Stand Your Ground rights when Zimmerman shot him. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Who was comparing Martin to MLK Jr? I certainly made no such comparison. > > I could see things happening the way you say. But I think

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Not his home yet again. On Jul 22, 2013 5:57 PM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home with a bag of > Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't entering anyone's > building. He wasn't stealing anything. > > Zimmerman had problems

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

That's my take as well On Jul 22, 2013 4:55 PM, "Revolution" wrote: > > > I do not believe Zimmerman's account of how things went down. It doesn't > > pass the 'smell test' to me, > > it passes mine > > > and, if anyone ever had a reason to lie, it > > was him in this situation. > > Based on the

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

And I _think_the 'stand your ground' provisions are a part of the self defense laws. On Jul 22, 2013 5:04 PM, "Revolution" wrote: > > stand your ground was not used. > self defense was. > > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > It was my understanding the 'stand your groun

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

The stand you ground provisions were included as part of the jury instructions. On Jul 22, 2013 5:04 PM, "Revolution" wrote: > > stand your ground was not used. > self defense was. > > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > It was my understanding the 'stand your ground' pr

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

And I feel it is just as likely that Zimmerman 'started it' and Martin was defending himself. On Jul 22, 2013 4:56 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > Trayvon was walking very close to the houses appearing as if looking to > burgal one. That was probably to avoid much of the rain but still > suspicious. The pr

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Who was comparing Martin to MLK Jr? I certainly made no such comparison. I could see things happening the way you say. But I think it is just as possible that Zimmerman confronted Martin with his gun drawn. Every one assumes Martin was the aggressor because he wound up on top of Zimmerman, it jus

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home with a bag of > Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't entering anyone's > building. He wasn't stealing anything. This guy told me he was looking for a company

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home with a bag of Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't entering anyone's building. He wasn't stealing anything. Zimmerman had problems with a caricature of Martin. He had beef with the idea of someone, not with him. Zimm

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > The fault is the guy with the gun who goes and stalks the unarmed teenager > because he knows he has a gun and therefore thinks he is a badass. Sometimes you are just sick of putting up with shit with or without a gun. Our office building

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Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

The fault is the guy with the gun who goes and stalks the unarmed teenager because he knows he has a gun and therefore thinks he is a badass. If someone stalks me in a car across a neighborhood (which he wouldn't because I'm white and 40) and gets out to confront me, fuck yeah I'm going to confro

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

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Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

stand your ground was not used. self defense was. On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It was my understanding the 'stand your ground' provisions were part of the > self defense law(s). It is possible I am incorrect. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Maureen wrote: > >

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Trayvon was walking very close to the houses appearing as if looking to burgal one. That was probably to avoid much of the rain but still suspicious. The problem was he didn't like being profiled so he "likely" decided to pummel the "white" guy that was dissing him. If he didn't attack Zimmerman t

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

> I do not believe Zimmerman's account of how things went down. It doesn't > pass the 'smell test' to me, it passes mine > and, if anyone ever had a reason to lie, it > was him in this situation. Based on the evidence… I disagree > What I think happened is that he tried to be a > tough guy an

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Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

None of the stand your ground provisions were used by the Zimmerman defense, however, they are included in the jury instructions as part of the self-defense law. So I was only partially right. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It was my understanding the 'stand your ground

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

I agree as well, that he definitely did not intend to kill. Which is why it should have been manslaughter. A kid who was minding his own business is dead, and it's Zimmerman's fault that he is dead. I simply can't get past that. I don't think Zim is a bad guy or a premeditated murderer, but I th

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

No, I am upset because of a senseless, avoidable death of a minor at the hands of someone who seems to have a proclivity for injecting himself into situations like this. I have dealt with a lot of people like this in my EMS career, we called them 'wanna bes' On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Sam

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

My take on this is that Zimmerman got all worked up about Martin's presence, got out of the car to make sure Martin didn't get away, and when the confrontation happened, they both over-reacted. I'm not sure if you follow me on Facebook, but I posted there about a similar incident that happened to

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

It was my understanding the 'stand your ground' provisions were part of the self defense law(s). It is possible I am incorrect. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Which Florida law are you discussing? Because the Florida Stand Your > Ground law was not used as part of defense

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

So you're upset there''s no law against being a reckless dick. I can understand that. . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Based on what I have read about Florida's self defense laws, I am not sure > there one. > > I am more concerned with the law, that, admittedly, pre

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You're link proves we gave the Muslim Brotherhood over $1 billion. It also doen't mention the US military equipment we give them costs us nothing. , On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Here's a 2009 U.S. embassy cable released by WikiLeaks: > > "President Mubarak and militar

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In the event your position prevents you from reading the Wikileaks stuff, it basically says that the US is paying Egypt to keep the peace with Israel, and for access to Egyptian air space. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > I'll get to all this later. I'm cooking dinner. > >

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Based on what I have read about Florida's self defense laws, I am not sure there one. I am more concerned with the law, that, admittedly, pretty much gave the jury only one option, than the actual verdict itself. Seems to me, at the very least, a case could have been made for reckless endangerme

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I'll get to all this later. I'm cooking dinner. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Maureen wrote: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/199866 > > More cables and info from Wikileaks > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: >> >

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/199866 More cables and info from Wikileaks On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Link? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazo

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Here's a 2009 U.S. embassy cable released by WikiLeaks: "President Mubarak and military leaders view our military assistance program as the cornerstone of our mil-mil relationship and consider the USD 1.3 billion in annual FMF as "untouchable compensation" for making and maintaining peace with I

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I already sent it once, but here it is again: http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/f.a.q.-on-u.s.-aid-to-egypt-where-does-the-money-go-who-decides-how-spent On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Link? > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Maureen wrote: > >> >> The money never went

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Which Florida law are you discussing? Because the Florida Stand Your Ground law was not used as part of defense, and the finding of self-defense is not really that different than self-defense laws in other states. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > That is just the latest r

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Given his proclivity to run toward the action or intervene, as this latest rescue shows, it likely won't be the only time. He's a powder keg who can't seem step away when trouble starts. He had already been charged with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest and domestic abuse long before

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

What law do you think he should be charged and found quilty of? . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Pretty much, but I don't agree with Florida's law. > On Jul 22, 2013 3:55 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > > > > So you're just ranting that someone died, not over the miscarriage o

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

That is just the latest reason, in a long list of reasons, why I do not want to live in Florida. On Jul 22, 2013 4:16 PM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > > 10th amendment bro. > > Don't live there. > On Jul 22, 2013 4:14 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > > > > Pretty much, but I don't agree with Florida's law

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Link? Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Jul 22, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Maureen wrote: > > The money never went to the Muslim Brotherhood. It was used to buy > arms for the Egyptian military, which recently booted the Muslim > Brotherhood from power, and paid to the US defense contractors. > > So how d

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Ummm Ok? I'm not gonna touch that one. On Jul 22, 2013 4:16 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > He was found not guilty of the crime(s) for which he was charged. That does > not negate the fact that he shot and killed another person. > On Jul 22, 2013 4:12 PM, "Revolution" wrote: > > > > > Not guilt

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

He was found not guilty of the crime(s) for which he was charged. That does not negate the fact that he shot and killed another person. On Jul 22, 2013 4:12 PM, "Revolution" wrote: > > Not guilty… +1 > > > > On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:19 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > > > > Really? > > > > I'm pretty sure

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

10th amendment bro. Don't live there. On Jul 22, 2013 4:14 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > Pretty much, but I don't agree with Florida's law. > On Jul 22, 2013 3:55 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > > > > So you're just ranting that someone died, not over the miscarriage of > > justice? > > > > . > > > > > >

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The money never went to the Muslim Brotherhood. It was used to buy arms for the Egyptian military, which recently booted the Muslim Brotherhood from power, and paid to the US defense contractors. So how does the Muslim Brotherhood have billions in US Dollars? On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Br

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Pretty much, but I don't agree with Florida's law. On Jul 22, 2013 3:55 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > So you're just ranting that someone died, not over the miscarriage of > justice? > > . > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > I don't think he went after Martin with the in

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Not guilty… +1 On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:19 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Really? > > I'm pretty sure our judicial system disagreed with you. > > Not even a hung jury. > > Not guilty. > > The cops didn't even want to arrest him, they were made to. > > But you know better right? > On Jul 22, 2013

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Oh, so since he is not in power then we can all pretend that the money never went over there to them in the first place, when he was in power. Got it. Silly me. On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Have you been asleep for the last few weeks? On July 3, 2013 the > Egyptian milita

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Most states passed a good samaritan law that stops people from suing people who are trying to help them. I On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Sam wrote: > > I thought you weren't supposed to pull people out of a wreck unless it was > on fire. Back injuries and movement and all that. Maybe they can

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So you're just ranting that someone died, not over the miscarriage of justice? . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I don't think he went after Martin with the intent to kill him, no. And I > apologize if that was not clear. And even though, under Florida law, he did > no

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

I don't think he went after Martin with the intent to kill him, no. And I apologize if that was not clear. And even though, under Florida law, he did not commit a crime, I feel he is responsible for the death of Martin. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > So agreed Zimmerman screwe

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Yup agreed Dumb move Lots of dumb shit isn't illegal. On Jul 22, 2013 3:45 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > So agreed Zimmerman screwed up, but he never intended to kill. Do you > agree? > > . > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > Is there a witness that saw Martin 'attack'

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

So agreed Zimmerman screwed up, but he never intended to kill. Do you agree? . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Is there a witness that saw Martin 'attack' first? As far as I know, there > is not. > > So, for that little piece of the puzzle, we have only Zimmerman's wor

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Is there a witness that saw Martin 'attack' first? As far as I know, there is not. So, for that little piece of the puzzle, we have only Zimmerman's word on. Zimmerman. The one who shot and killed the other guy. Do you not think he would have good reason to lie about it? Here is something I feel

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah. Dispatcher: Okay, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Okay.

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

I am not sure where you got that idea from Sam, I said nothing of the sort. I do not believe Zimmerman's account of how things went down. It doesn't pass the 'smell test' to me, and, if anyone ever had a reason to lie, it was him in this situation. What I think happened is that he tried to be a t

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Without having been there and seeing it or being in Zimmerman's head your statements and Larry's have no basis I'm fact and still sound based off the faulty reporting. On Jul 22, 2013 3:35 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > Am I missing something? George Zimmerman did in fact follow ( I would say > 's

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Source? Cause I need that. On Jul 22, 2013 3:24 PM, "Sam" wrote: > > The 911 operator never told him not to follow. That is why he's suing NBC. > The media made that up so people would riot or something. > > . > > . > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > Let's see.

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Yeah In Zimmerman's back. On Jul 22, 2013 3:31 PM, "Revolution" wrote: > > > Are you implying that because he was found 'not guilty' that he did not > in > > fact stalk, shoot and kill an unarmed person? > > > sounds like someone is trying to pick the facts apart > so they can stick a dull knif

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Am I missing something? George Zimmerman did in fact follow ( I would say 'stalk' but some people did not like the use of that word), shoot and kill a minor, correct? There is no picking apart those facts. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Revolution wrote: > > > Are you implying that because

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

So let's get this straight. You think Zimmerman called the po-po, then attacked with intent to kill because black, because he learned in school how to use the law to get away with it? . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Witnesses saw Martin attack Zimmerman, or saw Marti

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

> Are you implying that because he was found 'not guilty' that he did not in > fact stalk, shoot and kill an unarmed person? sounds like someone is trying to pick the facts apart so they can stick a dull knife where it doesn't belong. On Jul 22, 2013, at 2:39 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Tim

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Witnesses saw Martin attack Zimmerman, or saw Martin on top of Zimmerman after the 'attack' started? Subtle but important distinction. Just because Martin was on top of him at some point does not mean he 'started it'. It is just as likely that Martin was defending himself from Zimmerman. It is v

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

The 911 operator never told him not to follow. That is why he's suing NBC. The media made that up so people would riot or something. . . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Let's seehe followed Martin in his car, and then, after being told not > to by the 911 operator

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

The witnesses? Did git even follow the trial? The girl friend was proven to be lying. The other lady ADMITTED she was lying. Based off what she saw on tv. He fired up, from his back while the kid was on top of him. His head was smashed into the ground and his nose broken. Finally you yourself

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Actually...I thought the county I used to live and work in used sworn officers in the 911 center. They do not (and apparently never did). Not sure where I got that idea from. My bad. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > Not true. In some places they are sworn officers. Even so

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Not true. In some places they are sworn officers. Even so, what he was told was sound advice and any reasonable person would have heeded said advice. How do we know Zimmerman did not 'attack' first? Oh, right...we have take the word of the only one of them who had a gun and used it, and coinciden

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Yea...car on fire, all bets are off...even for trained responders. You grab them and get them the hell out of the car. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Sam wrote: > > Nevermind, the car was on fire at the time. > > . > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > http://w

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

A minor who attacked him? Yup Following and questioning people in public, even photographing and recording them is totally legal. Dispatchers as you work know aren't sworn officers and can't TELL you to do a damn thing. On Jul 22, 2013 3:02 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > Let's seehe followe

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Let's seehe followed Martin in his car, and then, after being told not to by the 911 operator, he pursued martin on foot. Sounds like stalking to me or maybe it is 'pursuing', either way, he should not have been doing it.. But, that asideI will amend my original comment - 'Rescuing' 4 pe

Re: The Muslim Brotherhood | SOFREP

It still went to them initially which directly contradicts your earlier statement. Didn't matter though, remember, You guys said it was over months ago. On Jul 22, 2013 2:45 PM, "Maureen" wrote: > > Have you been asleep for the last few weeks? On July 3, 2013 the > Egyptian military removed Egy

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Nevermind, the car was on fire at the time. . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > http://www.cprinstructor.com/FL-GS.htm > > Florida's Good Samaritan law seems to protect even those who are > trained/licensed. When I left NJ, their lase only covered untrained people. > So,

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Stalk. You don't even know what the word means. I've stalked. In a ghilie. >From a hide site. With a rifle. He asked a kid who was loitering in his neighborhood questions and got assaulted for it. I'm sick of this unarmed nonsense. You don't need a weapon to cause grave bodily damage and de

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Rescues him by the balls and ruptured his scrotum? . On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:38 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I heard the family he rescued was white. Oh oh! > > Seriously though, this needs to turn into a meme. > > "George Zimmerman decapitates kitten, then rescues orphan from crib fire" > "G

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

http://www.cprinstructor.com/FL-GS.htm Florida's Good Samaritan law seems to protect even those who are trained/licensed. When I left NJ, their lase only covered untrained people. So, if I was with my family and we witnessed an accident and I stepped in to help, I would not have been covered beca

Re: The Muslim Brotherhood | SOFREP

Have you been asleep for the last few weeks? On July 3, 2013 the Egyptian military removed Egyptian President Morsi from power. The Muslim Brotherhood no longer rules in Egypt so all of those articles, which pre-date the removal of Morsi, are moot. http://www.propublica.org/blog/item/f.a.q.-on-u

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

You rally shouldn't. But if he was not a trained responder, he would likely be covered under any 'good Samaritan' laws Florida may have. Having never worked as an EMS worker in Florida, I cannot say if they do or do not, but I believe all 50 states have some kind of 'good Samaritan' law. On Mon

Re: Zimmerman rescues family of 4 from car crash

Tim - Are you implying that because he was found 'not guilty' that he did not in fact stalk, shoot and kill an unarmed person? I never mentioned the verdict, merely the details of the incident. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:19 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Really? > > I'm pretty sure our judicial sys

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