Re: This guy is a coward...

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
Judah - Unfortunately, it is not all that uncommon for sports officials to be assaulted by coaches, parents and in some cases, players. If I remember correctly, it carries a longer prison sentence that a 'simple' assault. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:39 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > You know what

Re: This guy is a coward...

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
what an asshat. That sort of crap is inexcusable. A bully and a coward. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > http://bit.ly/1688xrc > > I not only know the official who was assaulted, but have officiates > football games where the person who committed the assault was on the >

Re: Really jumping into politics...

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Cool. Enjoy the retail politics. Just keep your eyes open and dirt off you. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I have been the webmaster for the Kendall County (IL) Democrats for almost > a > year now...last month, they asked me to run fo

Re: This guy is a coward...

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
You know what else is fucked up about that? The dude was specifically charged with "assault of a sports official". Yup. That problem is common enough that it is it's own crime. Judah On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I can think of some other words, too. > > you sh

Really jumping into politics...

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts
I have been the webmaster for the Kendall County (IL) Democrats for almost a year now...last month, they asked me to run for Precinct Committeeman. This will be my first elected state office. Granted, I am not running against anyone, so I don't get to do the campaign insanity...but I guess you h

Re: This guy is a coward...

2013-09-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I can think of some other words, too. you should add this incident to his wikipedia page, with a small reference to arm wresting. and link to it from the arm wrestling wiki page, which he is all over. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:11 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Punk > On Sep 17, 2013 8:11 PM, "Sco

Re: This guy is a coward...

2013-09-17 Thread LRS Scout
Punk On Sep 17, 2013 8:11 PM, "Scott Stewart" wrote: > > I think "asshole" sums it pretty well. > On Sep 17, 2013 8:08 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > > > > http://bit.ly/1688xrc > > > > I not only know the official who was assaulted, but have officiates > > football games where the person who com

Re: This guy is a coward...

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stewart
I think "asshole" sums it pretty well. On Sep 17, 2013 8:08 PM, "Scott Stroz" wrote: > > http://bit.ly/1688xrc > > I not only know the official who was assaulted, but have officiates > football games where the person who committed the assault was on the > sidelines. > > What is not in the story

This guy is a coward...

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
http://bit.ly/1688xrc I not only know the official who was assaulted, but have officiates football games where the person who committed the assault was on the sidelines. What is not in the story is that he 'sucker punched' the official. A 'world champion' arm wrestler sucker punched a 63 year ol

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Wrong direction, when the western Empire collapsed, heavy metal collapsed. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > So heavy metal brought down he Roman empire? Awesome!!! LOL > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larr

RE: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts
LOL -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 4:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial think of it, Rome was for all the same stuff as Metal. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote

Re: NCDevCon

2013-09-17 Thread Vivec
Hell yeah, know that's what's important lol lol ^_^ On 17 September 2013 18:03, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > but just a couple of blocks away from the party > event Saturday evening. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now

Re: NCDevCon

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm staying at the Clarion Hotel State Capital on Hillsborough St. Slightly closer to the conference, but just a couple of blocks away from the party event Saturday evening. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > > > NCDevCon is this weekend. Anyone going? I'll be arriving aroun

Re: for you iPhone fans

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
you haven't realized that yet? BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA! Sorry don't know what came over me... On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > you are both bad people. get it out of my HEAD > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Cameron Childress >wrote: > > > > > Banana Phone: >

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
think of it, Rome was for all the same stuff as Metal. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Wrong direction, when the western Empire collapsed, heavy metal collapsed. > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >> >> So h

Re: NCDevCon

2013-09-17 Thread Justin Scott
> NCDevCon is this weekend. Anyone going? I'll be arriving around > 6pm on the Friday and would like together with any list members > who are also attending. perhaps we can set something up. I will be there as well, arriving sometime Friday afternoon. I would be up for dinner if a group is formi

RE: 11 questions to see if libertarians are hypocrites

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts
The rest are controlled by multi-billion dollar corporations...nothing free about that. Try opening a store that would compete with a store like Walmart and see how quickly you will fail. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17,

RE: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts
You can set the cameras to a static local ip. Many routers allow you to assign a MAC address a local ip, like 192.168.x.x Some of these setting are in the advanced version of an interface. I use a buffalo router with the DD-WRT open source Linux interface, which gives me more features than the

Re: NCDevCon

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The real frustrating part of it is that I'm at home sick with Bronchitis. I may not be physically up to partying. (the spirits are willing, but the flesh is weak). On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Hell yeah, know that's what's important lol lol ^_^ > > > On 17 September 2013 1

RE: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts
So heavy metal brought down he Roman empire? Awesome!!! LOL -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 11:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial Cool thing about these ice cores is that they track

Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
If you had said "look, a few idiots are saying dumb things about Miss America"I wouldn't have commented. But you said "I weep for our future", suggesting that these few idiots were indicative of a social decay. Not sure I agree with the latter. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Scott Stroz

RE: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Roberts
All of my computers and other devices had 192.168.x.x and that hasn't been a problem with any provider I have used. That is totally transparent to the provider as those addresses are handled by your router and not any of their equipment. Eric -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.t

Re: U.S. Science Laureate Bill Hits Roadblock | Science/AAAS | News

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
The answer is obvious that I took and understood science. You on the other hand did not seem to grasp what they tried to teach you. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > nice bit of dodging the question Sam. > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Sam wrote: > > > > > L

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > My bad...for some reason I thought you seemed to harp on no changes for 10 > years. > > I didn't even harp on 16 or 17. > > > Your are changing the range to fit your needs. > > No, I am not. 10 years or 17..still a very short period of t

Re: for you iPhone fans

2013-09-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
you are both bad people. get it out of my HEAD On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Banana Phone: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZUV2kiUZg4 > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7797680128/h1D594CF6/ > > > ~

Re: for you iPhone fans

2013-09-17 Thread Cameron Childress
Banana Phone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZUV2kiUZg4 On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7797680128/h1D594CF6/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amaz

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
Ah, I thought that you meant that you couldn't ping from the outside. Have you had them send you a screen shot of: ipconfig /all ? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Dana wrote: > > right. But they were claiming 10.1.10.1 could not ping 10.1.10.10. > Which is ridiculous if they both have the c

Re: A comic about questions and answers

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
brillig. A semester of philosophy in a web comic. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Lovely. > > http://comicsthatsaysomething.quora.com/A-Day-at-the-Park > > Cheers, > Judah > > > ~| Order the Adobe C

Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
HA! That's awesome. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > My favorite tweet about the whole kerfluffle: "Can we please keep the > racism out of our objectification of women? #missamerica" > > Sometimes 140 characters hits the nail right on the head. > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2

Re: U.S. Science Laureate Bill Hits Roadblock | Science/AAAS | News

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
So, because 'thousands' of 'school kids' sent him letters saying they disagree, we should make Pluto a planet again? Maybe we should let all school kids dictate science policy and procedures. Imagine how fun that would be. Once again, he did not 'demote' Pluto, as far as we know, he did not even

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Vivec
If the United States every really got behind Global Warming, we would reduce our CO2 output worldwide within a year or so. The reason this hasn't gone forward, and there is still so much opposition to it is because for various reasons the US is opposed to pursuing any real strategy toward renewabl

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > > 17 > > > > > > > 17? Then why do you keep saying 10? Either way, it is still not even a > > blink of the eye when compared to how long some of these cycles last. > > > > I never sai

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Vivec
You tried connecting a router to the Comcast modem, and configuring that router to 192.168 and connecting your cameras to that? On 17 September 2013 11:45, Dana wrote: > > Thanks everyone. The issue is that the people I have talked to over there > seem to really want the internal numbering sch

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Dana
right. But they were claiming 10.1.10.1 could not ping 10.1.10.10. Which is ridiculous if they both have the correct subnet mask. Which, the customer was claiming, they did. There may have been a breakthrough on this though, specifically because they were wrong about the subnet masks. I think. Le

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I have them. I am "mostly" happy, with 2 major exceptions. - they block my work IP phone. we have moved the ports, and they block the traffic regardless. - they significantly reduce my bandwidth during long large file transfers. and seem to penalize me for 10-20 minutes after a transfer. but the

Re: The typical American family makes less than it did in 1989

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
This proves you've been wrong for years. What point were you trying to make? . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/17/the-typical-american-family-makes-less-than-it-did-in-1989/ > > the rich gets richer and we get

Re: for you iPhone fans

2013-09-17 Thread Bruce Sorge
That's just silly. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Sep 17, 2013, at 3:52 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7797680128/h1D594CF6/ > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon

for you iPhone fans

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
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Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
I do not want to put words into your mouth, but it seems like you are saying it is OK because it is only a small percentage of people. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I think Sam's got a good point here. yeah, there are idiots, always will > be, and the Internet is a great w

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
ICMP (ping) is almost never routable from outside to an internal network. A large number of networks block it at the last network hop anyway. ICMP can be used for a denial of service attack and you don't want to expose the structure of your internal (non-routable) network structure to the outside

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Dana
Trying not to drive 100mi for a site visit. It looks like that's where this is going tho. Any of your been able to ping? I find it hard.to believe they would turn that off but I am getting a real strong intuition that the problem here is that the equipment is dumber than I am used to. On Sep 17, 2

NCDevCon

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
NCDevCon is this weekend. Anyone going? I'll be arriving around 6pm on the Friday and would like together with any list members who are also attending. perhaps we can set something up. larry -- Larry C. Lyons web: http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/larryclyons

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I beg to differ, almost every time global warming comes up you say things > like 'it hasn't gotten warmer in x number of years' > The "pause" from hide-the-pause fame is just proof the science is not settled. I think you may have missed

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Cool thing about these ice cores is that they track other stuff than just CO2. Heavy metals etc. for instance. I'll have to dig up the reference (not on my home laptop with the ref) but tracking these metals (in Greenland mainly from the Rio Tinto mines in Spain which have been mining lead since 6

Year-end tax cuts have nearly doubled projected size of national debt, CBO says - The Washington Post

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/year-end-tax-cuts-have-nearly-doubled-projected-size-of-national-debt-cbo-says/2013/09/17/cda802d2-1f9c-11e3-94a2-6c66b668ea55_story.html I seem to remember that this was one of the arguments against making the Bush tax cuts permanent. Nice to see t

The typical American family makes less than it did in 1989

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/17/the-typical-american-family-makes-less-than-it-did-in-1989/ the rich gets richer and we get screwed. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > My bad...for some reason I thought you seemed to harp on no changes for > 10 > > years. > > > > > I didn't even harp on 16 or 17. > I beg to differ, almost every time global warming

Re: Year-end tax cuts have nearly doubled projected size of national debt, CBO says - The Washington Post

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
I think it says "we can't sustain the current fed spending without raising taxes". In other words, cut spending. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/year-end-tax-cuts-have-nearly-doubled-projected-size-of-national-debt-

Re: 11 questions to see if libertarians are hypocrites

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
too worried to answer the questions perhaps? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:00 AM, GMoney wrote: > > No doubt, those first few paragraphs were pretty terribleespecially > when he says "they claim the mythical free market can do everything better > than the government, but when they need the gov

Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
Seems like the dozen idiots (vs the mostly positive tweets) quit twitter. Thank goodness buzzfeed was there to make it look like a trend. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > crap that is depressing. > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > >

Re: U.S. Science Laureate Bill Hits Roadblock | Science/AAAS | News

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
You know, I was the one who suggested Neal Degrasse Tyson because I really thought it was the most innocuous suggestion possible and I was curious on what grounds Sam would bizarrely attack it. I had not considered Pluto. Good to know that he still has the capacity to surprise me. Judah On Tue,

Re: A comic about questions and answers

2013-09-17 Thread Vivec
Thanks for this. I like quora, but I find it so difficult to find good content on it. On 17 September 2013 10:54, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Lovely. > > http://comicsthatsaysomething.quora.com/A-Day-at-the-Park > > Cheers, > Judah > > > ~~

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
here's the ref for the article on the Inca and the Little Ice Age http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28353083/#.UjiG7Mb0OFg On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Cool thing about these ice cores is that they track other stuff than just > CO2. Heavy metals etc. for instance. I'll have

Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
I think Sam's got a good point here. yeah, there are idiots, always will be, and the Internet is a great way for them to be heard when just a few decades ago they had no means by which to get their idiocy out to the masses. But perspective is that these are but a few, and the VAST majority of com

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Dana
K thanks for confirming that Judah, yeah I couldn't see why it would make a differenceprobably a script at play there too. Trying to phone support this as it's about 100 miles away over a fairly intense mountain pass On Sep 17, 2013 8:48 AM, "Judah McAuley" wrote: > > My network is set up fo

Re: 11 questions to see if libertarians are hypocrites

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
I'm not a libertarian so..find me a test for independents, and I'll take it. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > too worried to answer the questions perhaps? > > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:00 AM, GMoney wrote: > > > > > No doubt, those first few paragraphs were

Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
crap that is depressing. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > ...when I see ignorant, racist shit like this. > > http://bit.ly/1gr2ahq > > -- > Scott Stroz > --- > You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder > what the f*&k happened

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Dana
So anyway I had questions about how to define the inside network vs the static IP on the outside on their equipment!) and I was getting answers like sorry, I can't help you because I am not Microsoft certified. I did get one woman on the third call who was trying to help but she was reading from a

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
mine is 192.168.*, and has no problems. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > My network is set up for 10.x.x.x as I don't really care one way or > another. However, I have previously used just the straight up Comcast modem > and then used a Linksys wireless router (when I

Re: U.S. Science Laureate Bill Hits Roadblock | Science/AAAS | News

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
nice bit of dodging the question Sam. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Sam wrote: > > Larry, > If half the astronomers don't agree with the new classification how can it > be scientific? > Sounds like politics to me. > > Maybe you should read up on the subject of science. You can start here: >

Re: 11 questions to see if libertarians are hypocrites

2013-09-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
the only free market I know of is the illegal drug market. Everything else is regulated and subsidized. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:00 AM, GMoney wrote: > > No doubt, those first few paragraphs were pretty terribleespecially > when he says "they claim the mythical free market can do everythi

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
My network is set up for 10.x.x.x as I don't really care one way or another. However, I have previously used just the straight up Comcast modem and then used a Linksys wireless router (when I had Vonage and used the built in phone ports on the router) and I was able to set that up for 192.168.x.x

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Dana
Thanks everyone. The issue is that the people I have talked to over there seem to really want the internal numbering scheme to be 10.x.x.x but the cameras for this project default to 192.168.x.x, which would by the way be better practice for this incredibly simple network with one PC and one contr

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.skepticalscience.com/images/Milankovitch_Cycles_40.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm&h=221&w=500&sz=16&tbnid=OeFYHz0vSs0XHM:&tbnh=59&tbnw=133&zoom=1&usg=__jzpTdt2rwVbJPMU1tAgk2zBtq6M=&docid=sD8g5_NF0TWzqM&sa=X&

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > > You keep going on and on about this, and how the Earth has not gotten > > warmer in the last 10 years or so. > > > > > 17 > 17? Then why do you keep saying 10? Either way, it is stil

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
I do. Everything works quite well, actually. It's expensive, but I get good data throughput. I've had to replace the router twice in the 7 years I've had it at this house. Pretty solid, all in all. Cheers, Judah On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Dana wrote: > > Anyone here have a home network

A comic about questions and answers

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
Lovely. http://comicsthatsaysomething.quora.com/A-Day-at-the-Park Cheers, Judah ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://ww

Re: U.S. Science Laureate Bill Hits Roadblock | Science/AAAS | News

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
I guess you missed the irony of it. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > You know, I was the one who suggested Neal Degrasse Tyson because I really > thought it was the most innocuous suggestion possible and I was curious on > what grounds Sam would bizarrely attack it.

Re: U.S. Science Laureate Bill Hits Roadblock | Science/AAAS | News

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
Holy shit your anal. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, because 'thousands' of 'school kids' sent him letters saying they > disagree, we should make Pluto a planet again? > > Maybe we should let all school kids dictate science policy and procedures. > Imagine how f

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
It's trying to explain away the lag. Think about it, if heat released more CO2, and CO2 trapped more heat, the planet would have burned already. Science baby, try applying some. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Sam, have you actually read this article? > > It does not sup

Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread Judah McAuley
My favorite tweet about the whole kerfluffle: "Can we please keep the racism out of our objectification of women? #missamerica" Sometimes 140 characters hits the nail right on the head. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:06 AM, GMoney wrote: > > The first post talking about 9/11 justwelli mean

Re: A comic about questions and answers

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
Bit long, and goes off the rails a little bit with the philosophical questions at one point...but I really like the concept of the persistent question having more value than the outdated answerand how the latter is often used to deflect the former when a person is uncomfortable with the new qu

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > 17 > > > > 17? Then why do you keep saying 10? Either way, it is still not even a > blink of the eye when compared to how long some of these cycles last. > I never said 10. > > If you go back past 1880 then this particular warming cyc

Re: Comcast home network

2013-09-17 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Dana wrote: > Anyone here have a home network and internet through Comcast? If so I would > like to reality check a couple of things with you Yup. My notes: They speed is really good when it works. If something stops working, expect to spend an hour on the pho

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Vivec
Sam, have you actually read this article? It does not support your view that there is no climate change, or that climate change is not made worse by CO2 emissions. "the lag between temperature and CO2 is explained as follows: as ocean temperatures rise, oceans release CO2 into the atmosphere. In

Re: U.S. Science Laureate Bill Hits Roadblock | Science/AAAS | News

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
Hate Mail From Third Graders - By Susan K. Lewis - Posted 01.01.10 - NOVA "It's not easy being a public enemy," writes Neil deGrasse Tyson in his book The Pluto Files. When Neil's Hayden Planetarium grouped Pluto not among the planets but rather with icy comets in the Kuiper Belt, he h

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Vivec
Wait wait...SamCO2 now is lower. So you are saying this data that we are seeing is completely wrong. Can you show me the data you are referring to that shows that CO2 levels were significantly higher 200,000 years ago? I presume that this data will also reflect a cooling or flat temperature

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > You keep going on and on about this, and how the Earth has not gotten > warmer in the last 10 years or so. > > 17 > > When you look at the history of the Earth, it is BILLIONS of years old. > Over time, there have been periods of warming

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
Nope. IPCC is your bible not mine. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Vivec wrote: > > So Sam, if the new IPCC report does NOT refute Climate Change, will you > soften your position against/denying climate change is a problem? > > On 17 September 2013 09:26, Sam wrote: > > > > > You mean th

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2013-09-17 Thread Sam
Really, that's how you think? You amaze me. So petty in your thoughts. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It sounds like there were some who were pissed they did not get their way - > and one guy who seemed to be saying 'the new definition is too complex, so > lets not

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2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
If thinking that science is sometimes complex, and should not be dumbed down makes me 'petty', I am OK with that. The article makes those who were against 'demoting' Pluto sound like a bunch of whiny little kids, as well as painting those who pushed it through sound sneaky and underhanded. Neithe

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
You keep going on and on about this, and how the Earth has not gotten warmer in the last 10 years or so. When you look at the history of the Earth, it is BILLIONS of years old. Over time, there have been periods of warming and periods of cooling. During a 'warming period' not every year would ha

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Vivec
So Sam, if the new IPCC report does NOT refute Climate Change, will you soften your position against/denying climate change is a problem? On 17 September 2013 09:26, Sam wrote: > > You mean the fact that the NYT still pretends Climate Change is real? Wait > until the see the new IPCC report tha

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2013-09-17 Thread Scott Stroz
It sounds like there were some who were pissed they did not get their way - and one guy who seemed to be saying 'the new definition is too complex, so lets not use it' Newsflash: science is sometimes complex. Funny, Neil Degrasse-Tyson is not mentioned once in that article. You would think someon

Re: Conservative Christian Voyagers Who Were Lost In The Pacific Plan To Leave Again, Fear Immigration Reform

2013-09-17 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > maybe they'll finally get lucky and and arrive somewhere where the wing nut > conservativism has been applied with great success. Maybe this time a fishing vessel will not interfere with god's divine plan for them. ...

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread Sam
You mean the fact that the NYT still pretends Climate Change is real? Wait until the see the new IPCC report than they'll really feel stupid. . On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:57 AM, GMoney wrote: > > What a depressing article. > > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > >

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2013-09-17 Thread Sam
Not sure where I read half but I did. But just to see why this is controversial: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5283956.stm . On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I am sure you have sources for the claim that 'half' the astronomers were > against the change? > > > On Mon, Sep

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Re: Sometimes, I weep for our future....

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
The first post talking about 9/11 justwelli mean...how dumb can ya get? But wellok, i laughed a little bit at "Miss 7-11". I'm sorry! I know, I know, i'm a bad person.. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I am moderately bothered. > > But does no one

Re: 11 questions to see if libertarians are hypocrites

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
No doubt, those first few paragraphs were pretty terribleespecially when he says "they claim the mythical free market can do everything better than the government, but when they need the government's help, they are the first to clamor for it." that's a bullshit line. I know a guy who's a stau

Re: Welcome to the Age of Denial

2013-09-17 Thread GMoney
What a depressing article. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/22/opinion/welcome-to-the-age-of-denial.html?nl=todaysheadlines&adxnnl=1&emc=edit_th_20130822&adxnnlx=1377180537-XsUyi67PBN5INEQz4IAE7g&_r=3&; > > for you science deniers out t

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2013-09-17 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
or Idiocracy by any other name. On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Soit is his fault that these children and their parents are ignorant of > how science works? And your idea it that we should placate their ignorance > and not appoint, arguably, the most qualified pers