Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> Ethical spam. Hm..
>
> I'll accept legal, but I think a lot of spam, even opt-in, is not ethical.
> You've opened a can o' worms with that one and I'm pretty sure you can't
> chan
...
You know this SPAM is getting to be a real problem, I mean I come in and my
Inbox is just loaded with messages...Wait! Oh those are from
cf-community! :-o :-)
Patrick
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Ethical spam. Hm..
I'll accept legal, but I think a lot of spam, even opt-in, is not ethical.
You've opened a can o' worms with that one and I'm pretty sure you can't
change my mind. I used to work in advertising and was on a first-name basis
with the bulk mail specialist at the post offi
>From what I've been told by family members who work for the USPS, yes, it slows down
>the other mail.
Worse, it has actually required more letter carriers for a given route, since now
_every_ household gets some mail.
And they are pressured by their bosses to make sure the junk mail gets deli
> In most cases, the junk mail is not actually _mailed_. Much
> of it is now delivered to the Post Office in bulk, and the
> postman adds it to every delivery himself.
We get that over here as well, you see the postman having a pile of the
junk mail in his hand and taking one off to add to the le
nt: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> Wow.
>
> I was pretty much kidding.
>
> I was just poking at Bill since he was poking at everyone else.
>
> And since I am an evil man who stirs up trouble, I want to say I
personally _do_ complain to the USPS
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From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:35 AM
Subject: Re:
I'm going to take a typo course. I seem to have a natural talent for them.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:41 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
>
>
> I
I have to take a typing course...
when when when when when
- Original Message -
From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> Yeah, well I thi
Wow.
I was pretty much kidding.
I was just poking at Bill since he was poking at everyone else.
And since I am an evil man who stirs up trouble, I want to say I personally _do_
complain to the USPS at least once a month about the flood of junk mail I receive in
my mail box.
I complain for th
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Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> Amen :)
>
> Man when i read through the abuse newsgroups some of these antispam people
> are just wackos.
> I mean i was reading where they sent 1 guy DEATH THREATS and a dead cat in
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- Original Message -
From: "jon hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SP
Have you ever run a half dozen or so mail servers for a couple
thousand domains, or an ISP? How about both at the same time?
It's hell trying to keep the spam nazi's at bay. We have many more
problems with the nazi's than we do with spammers. Actually I can
think of only 3 times someone has spamm
esday, September 11, 2002 4:09 PM
> |To: CF-Community
> |Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> |
> |
> |I'm sorry for being quippy or rude there ;) Whatever is a
> |touchy button with me, i always take it as very childish to
> |say whatever, hear it from my kids enough and i
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From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> It was a rough number ;) You can take your whateve
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> Speaking of that, I hear Bill Gates' fridge is web-enabled. I think there
> should be a hacker challenge to hack into it and order something crazy
like
> 1000 pizzas or something!!! Just for innocent
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To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> Whatever.
>
> And I disagree that 1 bulk postal mail is equivalent to 10 spam
> emails...each incident is a hassle...
>
> So by th
ssage -
From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> I don't quite understand how they can sue the ISPs. An ISP does NOT have
> to provide
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:35 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
true i can see those points :) but majority is just people who piss and moan
about having to hit delete X times or click the mouse.
Its a pain to a degree but some people just take it a smidge too far. And
event
|From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> |Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:57 PM
> |To: CF-Community
> |Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> |
> |
> |its all a matter of perspective 5 bulk regular mails is like
> |getting 50 or 60 emails its just perspective. Sometimes you
>
al to have a list? You aren't forcing people to follow the list -
it's just a list - that's all.
-rc
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:33 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:25 PM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> The reason why it's such a big deal, isn't how easy it is to delete, it's
> how much some people are paying to get those bulk emails. Remember not
> everyone is lik
- Original Message -
From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> How can that possibly be a good note unless you are on the side of _evil_
(read spammer)?
&g
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:57 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
its all a matter of perspective 5 bulk regular mails is like getting 50 or
60 emails its just perspective. Sometimes you just get 5 little postcards
and sometimes you get 5 of those huge books of crap yo
How can that possibly be a good note unless you are on the side of _evil_ (read
spammer)?
I hope the ISPs and spam blockers get MORE strict (and also more correct).
Please Santa, pretty please!
Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/02 03:13PM >>>
But on a good note i hope the lawsuit a fe
neatly sorted, and if I get more than 5 in a week from the same address my
scripts ask if I want to automatically delete that sender.
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:57 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 9/11 S
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> No - and I spoke to the author this week -a nd guess what s/he told me?
> She had the same issues - and gave up and went to Moz Mail. My
> "mailCleaner" CFM handles it - but again - as I just dis
n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:04 PM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> Bill, try as I might, I couldn't get NAV to stop bugging me about
> Viruses. I was hitting 'Quarantine' or 'O
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- Original Message -
From: "Stephenie Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> i rarely see someone st
Interesting Good to hear you have a system to handle it now.
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:29 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
No - and I spoke to the author this week -a nd guess what s
inal Message-
> From: Harkins,Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:21 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
>
>
> Any luck with with the virus-killing VBA code Ray?
>
> Patrick
>
> -Original Message-
&
Any luck with with the virus-killing VBA code Ray?
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
Bill, try as I might, I couldn't get NAV to stop bugging me about
Vi
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> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:00 PM
i rarely see someone standing by his
> |mailbox bitching and moaning saying OHH this bulk mail is
> |horrible i hate it ;)
> |
> |but then again i am sure there are people with nothing better to do
> |
Most people don't get 200 junk letters in their postal mailbox in one
day! If they did, they
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- Original Message -
From: "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> At 10:04 AM 9/11/
> > However - the coolest thing my file does that the mail
> server can't? It
> > can scan an email for Asian characters. BAM! No more freaking Asian
> > spam.
> You mean by checking for ascii character 127-255 in a RegEx? ;)
Yea - I didn't say it was complex - just real damn nice. ;)
function
Its one from Creative. The nero software did recognize it - thanks so much!
Duane
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:17 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> However - the coolest thing my file does t
> However - the coolest thing my file does that the mail server can't? It
> can scan an email for Asian characters. BAM! No more freaking Asian
> spam.
You mean by checking for ascii character 127-255 in a RegEx? ;)
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-Original Message-
From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:12 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
At 10:04 AM 9/11/02, Bill Wheatley wrote:
>Delete key is very simple but i suppose some people cant spare the time
Is this the newest tech specialization...? "Spam Killer" ! If so I'm sure
Michael is one of the first across the plate!
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject
ge-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:51 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
>
>
> I've gotten VERY good at detecting spam patterns based on
> subjects and other headers. A thought that came up at the
"Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: Florida Voting (WAS Re: 9/11 SPAM)
> We got a lot of republicans running things around here, not all of them,
> but a lot of them
I've gotten VERY good at detecting spam patterns based on subjects and other headers.
A thought that came up at the CFUG last night is to make a CFPOP call to a mail
account to get only the message headers, run those headers through an anti-spam
template and have it delete all spam posts. What
At 10:04 AM 9/11/02, Bill Wheatley wrote:
>Delete key is very simple but i suppose some people cant spare the time or
>are not quick enough to take care of it
250+ times hitting the delete key, plus dealing with 17 virus attachments
is neither simple or quick. The delete key argument is the fi
So out of my curiosity what county are you in?
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:51 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Florida Voting (WAS Re: 9/11 SPAM)
>
> We got a lot of republicans
2002 10:36 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Florida Voting (WAS Re: 9/11 SPAM)
>
> yea i wish i could have voted but since the lovely republicans kept my
> motor
> voter reigstration i'm screwed ;)
>
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> M
b" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Florida Voting (WAS Re: 9/11 SPAM)
> LOL... Florida voting... I could hear Florida citizens screaming "WE WANT
> CHADS!"
>
> What a
"CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:53 AM
>Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
>
>
> > its all screwed up looks like mcbride won but we had to keep the polls open
> > 2 extra hours because of problems
> > so they are goign to co
Hey Maureen, I can sympathise.
I had a new phenomenon on Hotmail, myself today - I got around 100 identical
SPAMs from the same source. Maybe it was a virus and Hotmail had deleted the
infected attachment. They had all gotten filtered in to my Junk Mail folder,
but I still had to go through and
Florida voting. SSDD.
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> its all screwed up looks like mcbride won but we had to
- Original Message -
From: "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
> At 08:35 AM 9/11/02, Bill Wheatley wrote:
>
> >I still dont see what the BFD is
At 08:35 AM 9/11/02, Bill Wheatley wrote:
>I still dont see what the BFD is about hitting the delete key :).
In the last 24 hours, I've received over 250 spam emails, of which 17 had
virus attachments.
Contents of these Satan spawned missives included ads for everything from
online Bible stud
Message -
From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> So who won anyway?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[E
So who won anyway?
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:37 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 9/11 SPAM
>
> :) LOl oh well guess i'm just touchy after the morons here screwed
> upan
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To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> > thats the stupidest thing i've ever heard but i've heard it
> > from others :)
>
> Well good morinng to you too. ;) If it wasn&
t: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> I think - eventually - I'm going to get to a point where I block _all_
> email from people I don't know and have a signup form online where
> people can be approved to send email to me. As
Quoting Bill Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> But i think having to optin to send people personal emails is
> something that will result in people not bothering to email you
> because its a PITA
Actually, it is a solution that has been around for a long time. Hardly
anybody uses it anymore wit
> thats the stupidest thing i've ever heard but i've heard it
> from others :)
Well good morinng to you too. ;) If it wasn't obvious - I _was_ just
being sarcastic.
> I can guarentee everyone wont do that because its in such bad
> taste lol.
How is it bad taste?
[deletia]
> But i think hav
unity" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: 9/11 SPAM
> I think - eventually - I'm going to get to a point where I block _all_
> email from people I don't know and have a signup form online where
> people can be approved to send
Quoting Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I think - eventually - I'm going to get to a point where I block
> _all_ email from people I don't know and have a signup form online
> where people can be approved to send email to me. As it stands -
> 'stranger' email is rarely that important.
Ir
ent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:15 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: 9/11 SPAM
>
>
> I can't believe how tasteless SPAMMERs are. They've reached
> a new low in the 9/11 themed SPAM I just got.
>
> Bastards.
I can't believe how tasteless SPAMMERs are. They've reached a new low in the 9/11
themed SPAM I just got.
Bastards.
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