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[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:43 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish
Sum it all up:
>From those with ability, to those with ability.
Tim
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:49 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Visio
, August 16, 2002 4:34 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> >
> >
> > Tim-
> >
> > so, apparently you know "Who is John Galt?" :-)
> > been on the CME buying Reardon Metal futures,
y to fly!! Flotation devices built in lol :-)
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> Douglas Brown
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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:31 PM
> Subj
I would love to find Galt's Gulch :)
That's my kind of Utopian Society :)
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:34 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft
> > humour!
> > > Douglas you get the booby prize! :-)
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:11 PM
> > >
: The U.S. Bill of Rights states that "All men are created equal",
: and is the
: cornerstone of the U.S. Constitution. It is my opinion that _any_ person,
: U.S. citizen or not, should be protected by the Constitution when
: tried of a
: crime in or against the U.S by a U.S. court, military or
Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:12 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> >
> >
> > please remind m
get?
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> Douglas Brown
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> From: "Harkins,Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Camps for Citizen
roflmao!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:21 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
yup, bet it will
anybody here a spin doctor?
think it would be prudent to "veg ou
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> From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
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> > I figured
there. It is to
prevent atrocities like those which Ashcroft wants that I feel so very
strongly about many things.
Tim
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> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Cam
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> From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
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l Message-
> From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:26 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
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>
> The U.S. Bill of Rights states that "All men are created equal", and is t
02 4:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
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>
> please remind me, which country is this again??
> wasn't aware the KGB operated in North America.
>
>
> -Ben
> > Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's annou
please remind me, which country is this again??
wasn't aware the KGB operated in North America.
-Ben
> Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems
> to be "enemy combatants" has moved him
> from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutiona
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> From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
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> > What the heck is this?
> >
LOL!
/me looks around furtively.
-Kevin
> -Original Message-
> From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
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> What the heck is
riendly neighborhood Webmaster!"
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> - Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTEC
Douglas Brown wrote:
> What the heck is this?
>
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Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> What the heck is this?
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Douglas Brown
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- Original Message -
From: "William H. Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish
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From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> The U.S. Bill of Rights states that "All men are created equal",
Paris Lundis wrote:
> under American terms of constitutional democracy (actually republic),
> citizens have greater rights than foreigners, visitors, etc.
>
> things like a right to counsel and jury trial and ability to have a bond
> hearing
Enlighten me :) In past discussions Nick has point
amen.
-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:27 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
I've said it before - Ashcroft is a looney.
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I have a feeling this thread is going to spin rapidly out of
controlanyone into betting on it?
Patrick
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:26 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish V
eing the one to
> decide this,
> I think that is simply ludicrous and everyone would be a
> combatant if they had
> their way.
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>
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> Douglas Brown
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g
Our constitution makes a clear distinction between citizens and
non-citizens.
Tim
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellis
ction: detail indefinitlely ---
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- Original Message -
From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> somehow I
for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
Howie Hamlin wrote:
>
> Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow
him to order the indefinite incarceration of
> U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and
access to the court
Howie Hamlin wrote:
>
> Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order
>the indefinite incarceration of
> U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and access to
>the courts by declaring them enemy
> combatants.
If it is good en
; Subject: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
>
>
> Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for
> U.S. citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him
> from merely being a political embarrassment to being a
> constituti
Brown
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- Original Message -
From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 11:58 AM
Subject: Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft's Hellish Vision
> Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft&#
Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft's announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems to be
"enemy combatants" has moved him
from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace.
Ashcroft's plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order
the indefini
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