Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Did Bush propose that six months ago? > He proposed it 6 years ago! One of the best things he's done as President is champion the hospital and doctor database that consumers can use to get info for making smart choices. I wish he'd done more, but he has gotten some things done wit

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-20 Thread Sam
Did Bush propose that six months ago? On 8/20/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > You keep defending Jim's point that it makes sense for Canada to use > > the US system. That part is understood, the question is how can the US > > do that? > > We shouldn't. The US should m

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-20 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > You keep defending Jim's point that it makes sense for Canada to use > the US system. That part is understood, the question is how can the US > do that? We shouldn't. The US should move as quickly as possible to consumer driven health care. Companies like: http://carol.com/ http:

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-20 Thread Sam
Absolutly not. You keep defending Jim's point that it makes sense for Canada to use the US system. That part is understood, the question is how can the US do that? We have nobody to cover our extra needs. A 20 hour flight to India for someone having a heart attack is not the answer. On 8/19/07,

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I don't understand your point so I'm bailing :) > Lucky for you I'm good with analogies :) The article stated that the Canadian system only worked because of America filling a gap (4 baby incubators or whatever). So here's analogy #1: Let's say you

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-19 Thread Sam
I don't understand your point so I'm bailing :) On 8/19/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > I didn't read it as Canada's system failed. > > The entire argument is convoluted logic and meaningless for 2 reasons: > > (1.) There will be a limited number of machines no matter

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-19 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I didn't read it as Canada's system failed. The entire argument is convoluted logic and meaningless for 2 reasons: (1.) There will be a limited number of machines no matter the system or country. Why? Because who's going to fund 10,000 cardiac machines if the mean use is 3 per ye

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-19 Thread Sam
rom: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:21 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Canada's 'universal' health care > > > > They can outsource because we're not using the same system. If we were > > where

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > They can outsource because we're not using the same system. If we were > where would they outsource to? Mexico? UK? > Jim's right on this one. And the US, UK, and Canada already outsource gobs of medical treatment to Asia and India. In a few years it will be common to be flown to

RE: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-18 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 10:21 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Canada's 'universal' health care > > They can outsource because we're not using the same system. If we were &g

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-18 Thread Sam
They can outsource because we're not using the same system. If we were where would they outsource to? Mexico? UK? On 8/18/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you just say screw them, let them drive to Mexico? :o > > Did I? Not that I remember. > > I will say that no system is perfec

RE: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 11:20 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Canada's 'universal' health care > > Did you just say screw them, let them drive to Mexico? :o Did I? Not that I rem

Re: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-17 Thread Sam
Did you just say screw them, let them drive to Mexico? :o On 8/17/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:05 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subje

RE: Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-17 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 10:05 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Canada's 'universal' health care > > Canada welcomes the birth of the newest set of quadruplets born to > proud Canadia

Canada's 'universal' health care

2007-08-17 Thread Sam
August 17, 2007 Canada's 'universal' health care Thomas Lifson We finally have good operating understanding of "universal" health care: somewhere in the universe there may be a place for you to get treatment. And if you are lucky enough to live near the United States bef