"If all your friends have jobs, life is good."
E. Good can have so many meanings.
It's good that they can put food on the table. Not so good if they can't
afford to take the family to the movies.
Then there's the whole good for the community, state, nation angle.
Interesting tidbit about
Sorry, I didn't even notice your comment.
.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:01 PM, GMoney wrote:
>
> That's cool. You are more a humanist than I.
>
> But still, my original comment was not based only on my friends...who were
> all employed...but also in comments i'd heard from recruiters in IT, and
>
That's cool. You are more a humanist than I.
But still, my original comment was not based only on my friends...who were
all employed...but also in comments i'd heard from recruiters in IT, and
from articles in our local paper about the employment opportunities in our
area, and in other areas arou
No, I have a job and have no trouble finding work when I feel the need
to move on.
My family and neighbors also have jobs, except the NY teachers,
they'll never work.
The thing is, I don't live in a cocoon and tell people the economy is
rosy and people in my State have enough jobs. I'm actually c
No, all of my family members need to have jobs too.then life is good.
I can say with all honesty that I truly don't care if you have a job or
not. I don't have any particular reason to wish that you don't, but have no
emotional stake in whether you do.
Were you expecting otherwise?
On Thu,
If all your friends have jobs, life is good.
Right?
.
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "No problems up in Seattle, companies are hiring like crazy..."
>
> Here are the unemployment rates by State for Dec
>
> Of the states mentioned in this thread,
>
> Illinois is at 45
"No problems up in Seattle, companies are hiring like crazy..."
Here are the unemployment rates by State for Dec
Of the states mentioned in this thread,
Illinois is at 45 (8.7), Washington is at 30 (7.6), Kansas is at 10 (5.4),
Nebraska is at 2 (3.7), and Missouri is at 22 (6.7)
My state rol
Yes please!
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 5:39 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> I have a GED and a pretty messy history and made almost two hundred grand a
> year at my best.
>
> Can we be honest and admit it's more about drive and ability than formal
> education in many instances.
--
will
"If my life wer
No problems up in Seattle, companies are hiring like crazy...
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:32 PM, GMoney wrote:
> Is it just the coasts that are still suffering with this? Because here in
> the middle, there are jobs a plenty for a degreed looker.
--
will
"If my life weren't funny, it would j
"I heard a stat today, which I havent tracked down yet. unemployment for
college grads nationwide is only 4%."
Interesting. Wonder if that is qualified employment or underemployment.
I came across this:
Study: 1/2 Of Recent College Grads Unemployed Or Underemployed
The college class of 2012 i
"Really? Huh. That's not true 'round here. There are jobs like crazy here
in KC. I hear the same from my friends in St. Louis and Chicago."
Or North Dakota. Or as discussed earlier on, in low skill jobs like retail
and service.
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a b
Her oldest is 14.
Flew a crip flag till I convinced him otherwise. I got him back into
traditional school from an online home school he was failing badly at and
not really doing. To be honest I probably stuck around longer because of
him and the other kids than I would have otherwise.
Funny he
yeah well. How well do you think her kids are doing in school? I was
thinking of a specific kid in San Antonio. Last I heard he was in
juvie and the other kids were still going through it. I don't know
what he was there for, but he had asked my son to help him get some
roach spray. My son asked me
You know as well as I do I have lived through much of this stuff. Drug
addiction, welfare, hood life bullshit.
It's funny you mention eldest of 9, I just stopped dating a girl with 9
kids and 3 baby daddies.
If you want out only you can make it happen. I'm only able to be stable
and have an in
that's part of it sometimes.
But it also matters where you are and what you are dealing with. You
wouldn't have made two hundred grand a year if you were living in
Livingston Texas, I guarantee that. Maybe 25 if one of your relatives
was hiring. Not everyone can move out of a town like that.
AOL
I have a GED and a pretty messy history and made almost two hundred grand a
year at my best.
Can we be honest and admit it's more about drive and ability than formal
education in many instances.
On Jan 30, 2013 8:28 PM, "Dana" wrote:
>
> work is very thick on the ground out here with or without
I see tons of pages with little actual research. It's just what the
right-wing talks about when they want to energize the resentful
elements of their base is all.
Like Susana Martinez who keeps giving press conferences and talking
about thousands of illegal aliens with New Mexico diver's licenses
work is very thick on the ground out here with or without. But that's here.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:32 PM, GMoney wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
>>
>> "Well a lack of a HS diploma didn't stop me from finding work in the late
>> '90's and early to mid 2000's.
Really? Are you spinning this to look like Republicans did this? By
your logic, if two republican governors asked to be excused from
ObamaCare than Obama would issue the waiver to every state.
BTW, it was gutted before the R's asked for it. Nice try.
.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Larry C.
I heard a stat today, which I havent tracked down yet.
unemployment for college grads nationwide is only 4%.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Kansas and Nebraska have some of the lowest rates of unemployment in the
> nation.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/publicdata/explor
Kansas and Nebraska have some of the lowest rates of unemployment in the
nation.
https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:US&ifdim=country&hl=en&d
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
> "Well a lack of a HS diploma didn't stop me from finding work in the late
> '90's and early to mid 2000's."
>
> Unfortunately, in the current environment, having a college degree isn't
> enough to get a job.
>
Really? Huh. That's not true
"Well a lack of a HS diploma didn't stop me from finding work in the late
'90's and early to mid 2000's."
Unfortunately, in the current environment, having a college degree isn't
enough to get a job.
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissin
that just happened to be requested by the republican governors of
those states. It was not just given to them. Really Sam if you're
going to relate something like that tell the full story, instead of
cherry picking just enough to put the current administration in a bad
light. Its the functional eq
Investigations then. Whatever you want to call it. My final comments on this.
Just because YOU used your card for honest reasons does not mean that EVERYONE
on the dole is doing the same thing. I realize that not everyone on the dole is
trying to rip the system off, but surely you cannot deny t
It was Ted Kennedy's baby, Bush was just trying to get along.
As for the teachers, some good teachers complained it cramped their
teaching style and some were upset that they had to actually start
working for a living.
.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> NCLB only cause
I don't see any research...
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> Fine. The system works. There are NO issues with the system whatsoever.
> EVERYONE on the dole is doing the right thing and there is NO fraud. All of
> the research on this is bogus right-wing propaganda to kee
late 90s was boomtime. Just saying you should not be so quick to pass
judgement. But let's look at this another way. Assume for the sake of
the argument -- I have doubts but let's assume -- that the parent is
apathetic and could solve the kid's problem but does not, out of
apathy. Why would making
Fine. The system works. There are NO issues with the system whatsoever.
EVERYONE on the dole is doing the right thing and there is NO fraud. All of the
research on this is bogus right-wing propaganda to keep the black man down. Got
it. I'm done with this discussion. I have a website to design.
tarve Children Until Their Grades Improve
Well a lack of a HS diploma didn't stop me from finding work in the late
'90's and early to mid 2000's. I guess things have really changed in the
last four or five years since I went back to the Army. The only thing that
held me back from m
uh. I remember spending Florida food stamps in Oregon. I wasn't on
vacation. I went there over a job and I got it.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:32 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> Here are a few articles about welfare fraud.
>
> http://www.calwatchdog.com/2011/07/05/welfare-fraud-still-plagues-califo
Well a lack of a HS diploma didn't stop me from finding work in the late '90's
and early to mid 2000's. I guess things have really changed in the last four or
five years since I went back to the Army. The only thing that held me back from
moving up in the corporate world was a lack of a degree,
Back in the 80's, not having a high school diploma was fine. Nowadays that
isn't the case.
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:43 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FWL Tennessee May Starve Children Until Their Grad
"Anyway, Benjamin Franklin was surely onto something."
The Japanese thinks so:
Japan To Slash Welfare Benefits In Attempt To Root Out "Comfortably Poor"
Two months ago we demonstrated one of the biggest paradoxes of the current
iteration of the US welfare state, in which a single mom earning gr
"I love the 'there is not enough work for everyone' line. I would bet that
many of these people who are able to work (physically and mentally) could
find something."
I think they mean:
There are not enough high paying white colar desk jobs that require no
skills and little work for everyone.
I
I have seen this in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Philippines (the latter is where
my wife is from). The government does squat for these people, so they fend for
themselves. They eke out whatever meager living they can on their own.
Unfortunately for the Afghani's, 'Murica is there and we are handi
"I suggest that politicians look at the real root of government waste instead
of pinning the problem on the few who receive benefits. "
Don't hold your breath.
You might want to include the suggestion that politicians not demonize
other politicians who do look at government waste and suggestion
"Well, what would you suggest to motivate these parents to be more involved
with their child's education then?
I saw this on the news and the premise was that if the welfare babies are
not encourage to work hard in school so that they might have a chance at a
more successful life than their parent
You make a good point.
If your income was reliant on his good grades you would have sorted it
out much sooner. I ask my daughter every day about school and try to
dig and find any issues, it's like pulling teeth getting any news but
I keep at it.
In the real world that teacher would be changing
I cannot answer that question, but my mom seemed to be able to find work when
she was a single parent with no HS diploma or even a GED. Over time she went
from being a welfare recipient to working as an account manager for Loma Linda,
company car, expense account and all the other perks of havi
Until Sebelius gave the States a waiver last year.
.
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Since 1996, there has been a five-year lifetime cap on TANF assistance for
> adults. In 2006, the average length of time families received TANF
> assistance was 35.4 months, and case closur
Here are a few articles about welfare fraud.
http://www.calwatchdog.com/2011/07/05/welfare-fraud-still-plagues-california/
http://getoutofdebt.org/47479/welfare-and-benefit-fraud-statistics-show-a-disturbing-pattern
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/target-11-investigates-welfare-fraud/nGmzn/
http
Since 1996, there has been a five-year lifetime cap on TANF assistance for
adults. In 2006, the average length of time families received TANF
assistance was 35.4 months, and case closure data from 35 states indicated
that less than one-half of one percent of cases were closed because
families had
Do you think any of those places are going to hire an illiterate,
multi-generational welfare mother with children? And even if they did, are
they going to provide enough income to replace all the benefits lost?
Health care, child care, food assistance?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Sorg
eachers that
> harped on the handwriting and criticized me incessantly about it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:17 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: FWL Tennessee May Starve Children Until Their
that
harped on the handwriting and criticized me incessantly about it.
-Original Message-
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:17 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FWL Tennessee May Starve Children Until Their Grades Improve
look, if really truly the
I had the same thought
Until Later!
C. Hatton Humphrey
http://www.eastcoastconservative.com
Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some
smelting to find it.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> undiagnosed special ed needs? Maybe? Just wondering
I'm going to bed. I'll continue this to tomorrow.
Sent from my iPhone 4S.
On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> I don't think this proves your point. Both parents have to be
> disabled, is one category... come on, first of all how many families
> can this possibly be, and next, it's
I don't think this proves your point. Both parents have to be
disabled, is one category... come on, first of all how many families
can this possibly be, and next, it's kind of common sense...
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> One way around the system:
>
> http://www.mejp.o
School already report their grades up the system.
On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> so if we must tweak the system why not put the money they would spend
> on checking everybody's report cards -- because you realize they would
> have to hire people to do that, right? -- into hiring
One way around the system:
http://www.mejp.org/tanflimits.htm
http://www.dshs.wa.gov/manuals/eaz/sections/TANFtime-A.shtml
Specifically the first paragraph, exemptions and extensions.
Now, assuming that back in the '80's the welfare office were encouraging people
to stay on the rolls (my mo
so if we must tweak the system why not put the money they would spend
on checking everybody's report cards -- because you realize they would
have to hire people to do that, right? -- into hiring a few more child
neglect caseworkers, hmm? Instead of throwing up our hands and
punishing the kid becau
ok. Though it will still be anecdotal. Why not find me a link about
this if it's so rampant. And let's distinguish between TANF, GA, food
stamps, SSI and section 8, because those are all different things with
different criteria. But when people say welfare as in cash benefits
that is the TANF prog
Yes, which is why I will talk to my daughter. Like I said, she has friends who
are on the rolls in Ca and South Dakota. I'll see how long they and their
parents have been on. And if they have been on longer than they are allowed,
she should know how they are getting around the system.
On Jan
and that was before welfare reform under Clinton, right?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> Look back to my earlier reply to someone. The welfare people were encouraging
> my mom to stay on the roles. If the people who are supposed to enforce the
> standards are breaking t
Look back to my earlier reply to someone. The welfare people were encouraging
my mom to stay on the roles. If the people who are supposed to enforce the
standards are breaking the rules, well
Now of course this was back in the '80's. I don't know how it is now. And I
have not had the privile
I had a similar situation. Teacher thought my daughter was mentally impaired
and she suggested we see a specialist. Turns out the teacher was a horrible
ogre who expected WA to much of a second grader. When we moved to another
district during Christmas break, suddenly my daughter was thrivi
and I'm telling you that it doesn't happen. Look at that link I sent a
while back. Sixty months is the lifetime maximum.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> This is a case where you are justified in receiving some assistance. Were
> talking abut people who either have not wo
This is a case where you are justified in receiving some assistance. Were
talking abut people who either have not worked a day in their life, or people
who just give up and figure it's easier to sit around watching ESPN or OWN.
On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:04 PM, "Eric Roberts"
wrote:
>
> Most
esday, January 29, 2013 6:48 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: FWL Tennessee May Starve Children Until Their Grades Improve
>
>
> So you mean to tell me that there is not ONE SINGLE place where you live
> that's hiring? Not a single restaurant, gas station, local dominoes,
>
look, if really truly the parent is not taking care of the kid there
are couples who are desperate to adopt, is what I am talking about.
But I think for the most part the trouble is that people aren't seeing
any kind of success come from hard work in the neighborhod they live
in. If the closest th
erson, the
minute they saw how much I made as a web developer, I ceased to exist.
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:48 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: FWL Tennessee May Starve Children Until Their Grades Improve
So you mean to
Yeah, I was thinking of Livingston Texas. There also were absolutely
no jobs out in Leakey, but that place is so small that's forseeable.
There is no local mall ;) The nearest grocery store was fifty miles
away. I'm just saying. Not everywhere is San Bernadino County.
Around here the attitude is
Then what do you suggest to get the parents off the roles. Or, in staying on
topic, getting them to be more proactive with their kids education so that they
have a shot at a better life? And it's not just Tn where this is an issue,
parents not caring about their kids, and it's not a new concept
I agree that there are places that have pretty depressed economies. Where my
daughter lives is one, Florence, AL. But, despite the fact that there are not a
lot of jobs in her area does not discourage her from finding one. Fortunately
for her I (the Army) is paying for her college so she gets a
you *know* that's not going to happen. If it's that bad it's
educational neglect and the kid deserves a better shot, is what I say.
This is purely poor-shaming.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> Maybe spurring the parent to actually do something to help their child other
>
I have lived in places where people fought over jobs at Wal-Mart. The
local gas station got about 500 applications when they had an opening.
There's a lot of work around here, but that's here.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> So you mean to tell me that there is not ONE SI
Maybe spurring the parent to actually do something to help their child other
than teach them the value of being a leach on society?
On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> And how will reducing the amount of money that neglected child gets help
> that child, again?
>
> I s
that may be some special Massachussetts housing program. It ain't
TANF. Link or it doesn't happen :) Look, I am in California and they
tell me that the maximum welfare amount is $253 a month for one
person. It's $600-something for a family of four, according to this:
http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=v
So you mean to tell me that there is not ONE SINGLE place where you live that's
hiring? Not a single restaurant, gas station, local dominoes, anything? I am
talking about places who will hire someone who does not have a HS diploma, not
a CIO of a fortune 500 company.
On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:4
And how will reducing the amount of money that neglected child gets help
that child, again?
I seem to miss that part.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> I agree with the part about teachers. Working for a school district I saw
> this first hand and that needs to change. T
I agree with the part about teachers. Working for a school district I saw this
first hand and that needs to change. The school district that my daughter went
to HS was good about listening to parents. They wanted to make some changes
that the parents did not agree on and the changes never happ
Well, you are wrong. Categorically. Statistically. Period.
Or maybe you aren't aware of the economy?
Don't you blame Obama for it?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> I love the "there is not enough work for everyone" line. I would bet that
> many of these people who are a
I love the "there is not enough work for everyone" line. I would bet that many
of these people who are able to work (physically and mentally) could find
something. Work in a restaurant. Deliver pizza. Dig a ditch. Clean houses,
something besides sitting around waiting for the next check to arri
section 8 is nice if you get it and yes, you almost do have to be
multigenerational to get it, as the waiting lists are about 10 years
long. But he said a *luxury* apartment. And I don't think it can
possibly make that much difference that it's Massachussetts. It's a
federal program and altho the
If this is actually what is happening, it is fraud by both the tenant and
the apartment complex. Report it.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> From what they have told me, once they rent the apartment on their own, and
> have lived there for 3 months, and then go bac
He is diagnosed as mildly dysfunctional. Not enough to qualify for special
needs. The school does provide after school extra tutoring for his math
and reading once a week.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> undiagnosed special ed needs? Maybe? Just wondering.
>
> On Tue, Jan 29,
>From what they have told me, once they rent the apartment on their own, and
have lived there for 3 months, and then go back on assistance, the state
pays the difference between what they can pay and the rent (based on their
income or lack of income). They claim they are paying $200 per month,
com
It's been a long time since physical stamps have existed. The benefit goes
on a debit card which cannot be transferred or sold.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:32 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> The vast majority of people I know in OH on assitance are involved in the
> drug trade.
>
> Most of them sell th
undiagnosed special ed needs? Maybe? Just wondering.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> I know of a child who is failing in school in spite of everything his
> parents have done - counseling, extra tutoring, occupation therapy, the
> father sitting with the child every night to
The program that the senator in Tennessee is proposing to cut requires 30
hours a week of work, so if someone is receiving aid from that program and
not working, then the system needs to be fixed.
I'm sure that cases of welfare fraud exist. But claiming that any budget
could be balanced by elimi
yeah but they get them *for* the kid. Gah. And if they are too
overwhelmed to help out already they're going to find it hard to make
an extra run to the food bank.
I call bullshit on the whole uninvolved parent thing anyway. My
experience with teachers is that (usually) they are not interested in
The vast majority of people I know in OH on assitance are involved in the
drug trade.
Most of them sell their stamps at 50 cents on the dollar.
Yes, multigenerational in nice places on section 8.
It's real.
On Jan 29, 2013 7:28 PM, "Dana" wrote:
>
> I find that really hard to believe. How muc
you know they put in a time limit under Clinton, right? I think the
max is four or five years.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> Where I grew up in Los Angeles for one. I had some friends who were second
> and third generation welfare babies. Their parents didn't give a sh
I find that really hard to believe. How much is TANF in Massachussetts
anyway? Please show me how it can amount to enough to rent a luxury
apartment. It's usually about half of the amount needed to rent a
really BAD apartment. I suspect that your families work, either under
the table or in the und
Because they don't have to. (Massachusetts).
THAT is what I would love to see addressed. Specific examples of abuse and
dishonesty and theft.
I agree with welfare to work. That should be the goal for all people, and a
major focus of the system.
But currently there is not enough work for everyon
I suggest that politicians look at the real root of government waste
instead of pinning the problem on the few who receive benefits. You could
stop welfare for every single person receiving it and only impact six
percent of the deficit.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> B
Well, the good senator insists on his boilerplate reply to every question
that he is not cutting food stamps only benefits that the parents receive,
not the child. Yeah..like that makes any sense.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> good question. I was wondering what would give a
Back to my question. What do YOU suggest?
Sent from my iPhone 4S.
On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:15 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:
>
> making children suffer does not help them learn. Hungry children do
> not learn. there are other ways.
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>>
>>
Where I grew up in Los Angeles for one. I had some friends who were second and
third generation welfare babies. Their parents didn't give a shit about them
doing well in school. They didn't give a shit about finding jobs. All they
wanted was their monthly checks. Where I was stationed in El Pas
Why don't they work?
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, right here in my building. an upscale "luxury" apartment.
>
> I know of 3 separate families that are on their 3rd generation of NEVER
> HAVING WORKED, and one family says they are 4th generation.
>
good question. I was wondering what would give anyone the idea that
lack of food promotes a focus on schoolwork, myself...
Dana
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Maureen wrote:
>
> Other than in the rhetoric of those who want to scapegoat anyone who
> receives any form of government assistance,
I know of a child who is failing in school in spite of everything his
parents have done - counseling, extra tutoring, occupation therapy, the
father sitting with the child every night to do his homework. Yet the
child still has problems in school. I even worked with him myself for
several weeks l
Unfortunately, right here in my building. an upscale "luxury" apartment.
I know of 3 separate families that are on their 3rd generation of NEVER
HAVING WORKED, and one family says they are 4th generation.
They teach their kids how to milk the system, are convinced they are
entitled to the money,
making children suffer does not help them learn. Hungry children do
not learn. there are other ways.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> Well, what would you suggest to motivate these parents to be more involved
> with their child's education then?
> I saw this on the news a
Other than in the rhetoric of those who want to scapegoat anyone who
receives any form of government assistance, show me where the people you
describe below exist.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
>
> While this approach might seem a bit extreme, I still like it. I would
>
Well, what would you suggest to motivate these parents to be more involved with
their child's education then?
I saw this on the news and the premise was that if the welfare babies are not
encourage to work hard in school so that they might have a chance at a more
successful life than their pare
This is right up there with "The beatings will continue until morale
improves." However this is in real life.
http://www.indecisionforever.com/blog/2013/01/29/tennessee-may-starve-children-until-their-grades-improve
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