Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-26 Thread denstar
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Medic wrote: > >> >> So what do you do when you're on vacation in the boonies and the >> messenger pigeon comes with that "the world will collapse in on itself >> if program X isn't doing Y by Z time"? >> > > This is a little hard to follow. If what you're asking i

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-25 Thread Vivec
I hear both of you on remote development. Traditionally I have preferred to have a mirror of the production site locally. Regardless of how fast my connection is, I have always had a better experience managing stuff locally than on the remote.I find the lag to be annoying, and this may be because

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-25 Thread Medic
> > So what do you do when you're on vacation in the boonies and the > messenger pigeon comes with that "the world will collapse in on itself > if program X isn't doing Y by Z time"? > This is a little hard to follow. If what you're asking is what I think the answer is that "I'm on vacation. Sorr

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-24 Thread denstar
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Medic wrote: > > In over 10 years of doing it this way I can count the number of times I've > been unable to connect to my dev servers on one hand... the one that only > has two fingers and no thumb. So what do you do when you're on vacation in the boonies and th

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-24 Thread Medic
> > > I want the visual capabilities of Dreamweaver combined with a solid code > editor. > This makes me shudder. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-24 Thread Medic
In over 10 years of doing it this way I can count the number of times I've been unable to connect to my dev servers on one hand... the one that only has two fingers and no thumb. Heh, there is one bonus tho, for direct work, neh? Network problems! ~

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-23 Thread denstar
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Vivec wrote: > > I want the visual capabilities of Dreamweaver combined with a solid code > editor. > > I can't understand why people cry down Dreamweaver's visual editing. > It saves a great deal of time when designing and laying out a website. > It also helps tr

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-23 Thread Vivec
I want the visual capabilities of Dreamweaver combined with a solid code editor. I can't understand why people cry down Dreamweaver's visual editing. It saves a great deal of time when designing and laying out a website. It also helps tremendously when you are trying to figure out how your code o

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-23 Thread denstar
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > > you can turn on/off the put dependent files in the preferances. > i always leave it off, and don't allow put on save. > i only upload to ftp by using Ctrl-Shift-U > personally i love dw as a text editor, as well as visual editor. > > i use ul

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-23 Thread denstar
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> Its a java app. just like CF or Open Office. > > If the nature of Java apps on the desktop is that they need to have the JVM > settings tweaked before they run properly, then I would assert that Adobe > made a poor decision to create CFBui

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-23 Thread denstar
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Medic wrote: > > The thing I'm trying (and always have been trying) to avoid is having to run > local versions of all my server software, which is why ftp with HS+5.5 has > always worked so well. The dev and prod servers have identical setups so I > don't run into

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
you can turn on/off the put dependent files in the preferances. i always leave it off, and don't allow put on save. i only upload to ftp by using Ctrl-Shift-U personally i love dw as a text editor, as well as visual editor. i use ultra edit because i can use column editing of block of text.. wish

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
Hey, that link's pretty handy actually. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > that's how I access all of my windows vm's. > > > Here's something that might be useful: > > http://cybernetnews.com/cybernotes-map-a-ftp-to-a-drive-in-windows/

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
that's how I access all of my windows vm's. Here's something that might be useful: http://cybernetnews.com/cybernotes-map-a-ftp-to-a-drive-in-windows/ On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> what's the downside of remoting? >> > Surely you've remoted into windows servers before

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Justin Scott
> Its a java app. just like CF or Open Office. If the nature of Java apps on the desktop is that they need to have the JVM settings tweaked before they run properly, then I would assert that Adobe made a poor decision to create CFBuilder on top of Eclipse. I have no problem tweaking the settings

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
h..I don't have that issue. I run several windows vm's on my desktop which I access via vnc and it's just like sitting in front of real box. The servers that I administer locally don't have a lag either through Remote Desktop. The servers that are at a remote location do have a lag t

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
> > what's the downside of remoting? > Surely you've remoted into windows servers before. You must know that it's a great tool for doing admin etc but a horrible thing to have to actually do any amount of work on. ~| Want to rea

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Ras Tafari
SLLOWW mouse response and keyboard press times... On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > not really, you said you don't want to deal with multiple copies of source > code, why do you want to deal with multiple copies of your IDE?

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
not really, you said you don't want to deal with multiple copies of source code, why do you want to deal with multiple copies of your IDE? Seems like that would be a licensing nightmare. what's the downside of remoting? On Jan 22, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Medic wrote: > > Are you joking? > You

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Erika L. Rich
I hope so ... On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Medic wrote: > > Are you joking? > You must be. > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > why not just remote desktop or vnc into your dev server then and run > > whatever ide on it

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
Are you joking? You must be. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > why not just remote desktop or vnc into your dev server then and run > whatever ide on it. > > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Medic wrote: > > > > > The thing I'm trying (

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
why not just remote desktop or vnc into your dev server then and run whatever ide on it. On Jan 22, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Medic wrote: > > The thing I'm trying (and always have been trying) to avoid is having to run > local versions of all my server software, which is why ftp with HS+5.5 has > a

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its a java app. just like CF or Open Office. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Justin Scott wrote: > >> Tweak it grasshopper, tweak it. >> Eclipse is a dog out of the box, once you get the >> JVM settings right it's smooth sailing. >> Google: speeding up Eclipse (or cfbuilder) > > I can understa

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
that's because you're probably using Beta 1 or 2. Beta 2 expired Jan 1. time to d/w the most recent version. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> >> Why not give CFBuilder a shot. it does have remote editing >> ca

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
gt; Google: speeding up Eclipse (or cfbuilder) > > -Original Message- > From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:34 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. > > > cfbuilder is SLOWER than molass

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
The thing I'm trying (and always have been trying) to avoid is having to run local versions of all my server software, which is why ftp with HS+5.5 has always worked so well. The dev and prod servers have identical setups so I don't run into "I don't know why it's not working, it worked on my mach

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Maureen
Set up the site as local only, and continue to FTP outside of Dreamweaver. Also, you can turn off caching on the site. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Medic wrote: > > Do you have a free, easy to implement suggestion? > So far (the last 10 years or so) using ftp on a dev server has worked > pe

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Erika L. Rich
Now that's funny sh*t right there. I don't care who you are ... ROFLMAO On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Justin Scott wrote: > Every time I open Dreamweaver I feel like Clippy is going to jump out at > me any > moment ask say, "It looks like you're trying to build a web application, > let >

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Scott Stewart
2010 12:11 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. Git for source control, quick and easy to move changes and branch and such. Then for file management, depends on what systems you are running. If I'm doing dev on a windows box and deployment on a windows box, go for

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Judah McAuley
Git for source control, quick and easy to move changes and branch and such. Then for file management, depends on what systems you are running. If I'm doing dev on a windows box and deployment on a windows box, go for SyncBack. Great free file sync tool and easy to set up exclusions so you don't t

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Scott Stewart
y break it. -Original Message- From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:54 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. > Source control can be remote also. Set up a source control > "server". Each developer h

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Scott Stewart
Ah.. thought he was talking about the product in general.. I just use filezilla.. -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:47 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Justin Scott
> Source control can be remote also. Set up a source control > "server". Each developer has a login and permissions to > the code. This prevents a couple of things. > > The only caveat is that all developers need to be religious > about updating their local code daily. Yes, I'm aware it CAN be

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
> > "It looks like you're trying to build a web application, let me help you > with that!" > HAHAHA. You've just articulated my feelings perfectly. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them kn

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM, morgan l wrote: > > Beta 3 is out, beta 2 is expired. > > So I can't just use an update site, I need to actually download Beta 3... That's kinda stupid considering it's built on eclipse/ ~| W

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Scott Stewart
Nope beta 3 is out. Download it, uninstall whatever version you have (beta 1 or 2) and install 3 -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. On Fri

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Justin Scott
> Tweak it grasshopper, tweak it. > Eclipse is a dog out of the box, once you get the > JVM settings right it's smooth sailing. > Google: speeding up Eclipse (or cfbuilder) I can understand having to tweak the JVM for ColdFusion server to get the best performance out of it given your unique situa

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Scott Stewart
11:42 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. > +1000 on that, either SVN or git. > > source control dudeeliminates problems of multiple > > local copies..you always know the version in source > > control is current. Source control is wonderful...

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread morgan l
Beta 3 is out, beta 2 is expired. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Casey Dougall < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > > > Why not give CFBuilder a shot. it does have remote editing > > capabilities, via Aptana synch. > > >

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Tweak it grasshopper, tweak it. > Eclipse is a dog out of the box, once you get the JVM settings right it's > smooth sailing. > > Google: speeding up Eclipse (or cfbuilder) > > NO ftp in cfbuilded is 100x slower than Dreamweaver as it op

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Why not give CFBuilder a shot. it does have remote editing > capabilities, via Aptana synch. > > > Beta doesn't start anymore :-( Is this a real product we need to purchase now? ~~

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Justin Scott
> +1000 on that, either SVN or git. > > source control dudeeliminates problems of multiple > > local copies..you always know the version in source > > control is current. Source control is wonderful... in certain situations (usually where the code base is relatively limited and you're wor

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Scott Stewart
o: cf-community Subject: Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. cfbuilder is SLOWER than molasses running up hill in january under a church for reallz On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Beta 3 is a vast improvement over Beta 2 > > -Original Message--

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Ras Tafari
Friday, January 22, 2010 11:27 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. > > > I gave it a try a little while ago. I just couldn't get into it. Maybe I > should have another go at it. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons > wrote

RE: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Scott Stewart
Beta 3 is a vast improvement over Beta 2 -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:27 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver. I gave it a try a little while ago. I just couldn't get into it. Maybe I should

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
I gave it a try a little while ago. I just couldn't get into it. Maybe I should have another go at it. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Why not give CFBuilder a shot. it does have remote editing > capabilities, via Aptana synch. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Me

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
I have CFStudio 5 already, the RDS/FTP can be a little wonky sometimes. Thanks though! On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote: > > I might have a copy (Id have to looksee) ... but I do have CFStudio 5 if > you > want it. > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Medic wrote: > > > >

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
+1000 on that, either SVN or git. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > source control dudeeliminates problems of multiple local copies..you > always know the version in source control is current. > > > On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Medic wrote: > >> >> I decided

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Why not give CFBuilder a shot. it does have remote editing capabilities, via Aptana synch. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Medic wrote: > > I decided I'd give DW CS4 the ole' college try on the new system I just put > together. Every time I've tried in the past I've ditched it within hours. >

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Erika L. Rich
I might have a copy (Id have to looksee) ... but I do have CFStudio 5 if you want it. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Medic wrote: > > I decided I'd give DW CS4 the ole' college try on the new system I just put > together. Every time I've tried in the past I've ditched it within hours. > Sinc

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
Do you have a free, easy to implement suggestion? So far (the last 10 years or so) using ftp on a dev server has worked perfectly for my needs. I'm often guilty of the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" philosophy. On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com>

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
from my experience, the ftp portion of DW has always sucked and always spiked the processor. I don't think there's any way around it other than not using the ftp portion. On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Medic wrote: > > I decided I'd give DW CS4 the ole' college try on the new system I just p

Re: Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
source control dudeeliminates problems of multiple local copies..you always know the version in source control is current. On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Medic wrote: > > I decided I'd give DW CS4 the ole' college try on the new system I just put > together. Every time I've tried in the

Help me not hate Dreamweaver.

2010-01-22 Thread Medic
I decided I'd give DW CS4 the ole' college try on the new system I just put together. Every time I've tried in the past I've ditched it within hours. Since I can't find HS+ 5.5 install anywhere I think I'm stuck with DW this time. The part that is driving me absolutely nucking futs is the whole "p