Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: >  "For seven and a half years I've worked alongside him, and I'm proud >  to be his partner. We've had triumphs, we've made mistakes, we've had >  sex." >    - H.W. Bush referring to Reagan ROTFLMAO!! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Kevin Graeme
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:08:48 -0500, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Best 2nd Debate line was when Mr. Bush looked at Mr. Gibson and asked: > > "Want some wood?" Like father, like son. "On the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."   - H.W. Bush referring to Mondale. "For

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> Marlon wrote: > Turns out that Bush does own a timber company. Best 2nd Debate line was when Mr. Bush looked at Mr. Gibson and asked: "Want some wood?" [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread dana tierney
Suppose that I were to incorporate. Then my company would pay tax and I also would pay tax on whatever income I derive from the company. That is why it is double taxation and that it why s corporations were created. On the other hand I think some of the really large corporations cry crocodile tea

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Won Lee
At 15:56 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >At 15:37 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6080561/ > > > >http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangeles/stories/2004/09/20/daily35.html > > > >This is very interesting stuff.  I'm looking at the financial statements >for Best Buy right no

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Won Lee
At 15:37 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6080561/ > >http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangeles/stories/2004/09/20/daily35.html > This is very interesting stuff.  I'm looking at the financial statements for Best Buy right now.  and seeing if I can disprove this. [Todays T

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Won Lee
At 15:42 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >But this makes sense to me. A publically traded company is a corporation. >A corporation is a legal fiction giving a company an existinance, separate >from any of the owners or workers of the company. > >Giving it a life and identity of its own in essence. >

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Jerry Johnson
Holy Cow are there a lot of typos in that last one! Jerry Johnson [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Jerry Johnson
But this makes sense to me. A publically traded company is a corporation. A corporation is a legal fiction giving a company an existinance, separate from any of the owners or workers of the company. Giving it a life and identity of its own in essence. This "person" has to pay taxes on its income.

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Howie Hamlin
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6080561/ http://losangeles.bizjournals.com/losangeles/stories/2004/09/20/daily35.html   - Original Message -   From: Won Lee   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:30 PM   Subject: Re: "I own a timber company?"   At 15:21 10/12/2004

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Won Lee
At 15:24 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Money is not human and its not the MONEY being taxed Its the company >that is paying a tax on their end and it is the person who is paying >the tax on that other end. It is not double taxation. It's no >different then going to an out of network ATM and (if you

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Won Lee
At 15:21 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Huh?  There are lots of large companies that pay little or no taxes - it's >a fact. You may be correct as I haven't gone through every single financial statements of all the companies listed on the SP500 but I would be very shocked to find a single one tha

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Bill Wheatley
Money is not human and its not the MONEY being taxed Its the company that is paying a tax on their end and it is the person who is paying the tax on that other end. It is not double taxation. It's no different then going to an out of network ATM and (if your bank still does this) your bank takes 1

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Howie Hamlin
Huh?  There are lots of large companies that pay little or no taxes - it's a fact.   - Original Message -   From: Won Lee   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:14 PM   Subject: Re: "I own a timber company?"   At 15:07 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote:   >A

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Won Lee
At 15:07 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >And, a lot of large businesses pay little or no taxes. > >Yehaa! That isn't really true.  If company A and company B were the same exact companies that did the same exact business but the only difference is that A is a publicly traded company and B is a lim

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Howie Hamlin
And, a lot of large businesses pay little or no taxes. Yehaa!   - Original Message -   From: dana tierney   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 3:02 PM   Subject: Re: "I own a timber company?"   I was looking into the definitions when I was first getting my

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Won Lee
At 13:51 10/12/2004 -0500, you wrote: >I'm not sure that having a small share in a timber company is the same as >"owning" that company. Do you consider yourself the "owner" of every >company in which you own some percentage of stock? You should, that is what equity is.  You own a piece of that

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread dana tierney
gt; > >   - Original Message - >   From: G >   To: CF-Community >   Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:51 PM >   Subject: Re: "I own a timber company?" > >   I'm not sure that having a small share in a timber company is the same as > "owning" that

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Howie Hamlin
unity   Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 2:51 PM   Subject: Re: "I own a timber company?"   I'm not sure that having a small share in a timber company is the same as "owning" that company. Do you consider yourself the "owner" of every company in which you own some p

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread dana tierney
welp according to the factcheck article, Kerry didn't claim Bush owned it... he said that he earned $84 from ownership in it, a distinction that should be clear to anyone familiar with the concept of stocks. It was Bush who said "I own a timber company?" I did not see this partic

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread G
bit more well off financially than Bush?   - Original Message -   From: dana tierney   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:32 PM   Subject: Re: "I own a timber company?"   Must be nice to have so many assets you lose track of them. And   naturally this has *nothi

Re: "I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread dana tierney
Must be nice to have so many assets you lose track of them. And naturally this has *nothing* to do with recent decisions about logging in wilderness areas. I dunno about you guys, but I live in New Mexico for the access to the wilderness and I don't want to hear buzzsaws when I go. Reminds me of t

"I own a timber company?"

2004-10-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
Turns out that Bush does own a timber company.  He and Cheney seem to be having "senior moments" lately http://www.factcheck.org/article275.html -- Marlon [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]