Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-15 Thread Gruss Gott
Hi Sam, Replies are inline. Gruss - Original Message - From: Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] What makes you think any country would let them form a new government in Saudi Arabia? They're not looking for permission.They're planning the same thing in Saudi Arabia as they did in

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-15 Thread Sam Morris
--- Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're not looking for permission.They're planning the same thing in Saudi Arabia as they did in Afghanistan And what did we do in Afghanistan? Do you think the Taliban could reform in Afghanistan? No. How about Saudi Arabia? I doubt it. - in fact

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-15 Thread Gruss Gott
Hi Sam, I think we've established that it's a complicated issue. I think where we differ is that you feel the US military actions have been successful at stopping terrorism.My point would be that it cannot be stopped as long as we have something someone else wants and they're will to use lethal

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-15 Thread Sam Morris
I thought you said they wanted to take over the Saudi Arabian government and once there is a country to attack the world will join together as in Afghanistan. If they remain in hiding and rely on terrorism, and I believe that to be the case, then it will drag on and we have something to agree on.

It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
The US has maintained a military presence in the Middle East for 40 years primarily to guarantee a stable oil supply. The doesn't mean to take the oil - just to make sure it's flowing and available for purchase; markets hate uncertainty. Consider what happened in the first 2 weeks of August 2004:

RE: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Angel Stewart
Aren't you supposed to post your sources for these things when you copy and paste? :-) -Gel -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The US has maintained a military presence in the Middle East for 40 years primarily to guarantee a stable oil supply. The doesn't

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Maybe he works for FoxNews and is just making it up. - Original Message - From: Angel Stewart To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 4:35 PM Subject: RE: It's for the oil Aren't you supposed to post your sources for these things when you copy and paste? :-) -Gel [Todays

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:35:01 -0400 Subject: RE: It's for the oil To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aren't you supposed to post your sources for these things when you copy and paste? :-) -Gel -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
And we believe the BBC why exactly? No, seriously, all of the content is my original writing - the ideas, however, are a summary of lots of sources I can send you if you'd like.and I did quote the BBC News are a source! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe]

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
erm, whom do we believe? Dana - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:15:25 -0400 Subject: Re: It's for the oil To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] And we believe the BBC why exactly? No, seriously, all of the content is my original

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Howie Hamlin
Fox Mulder? - Original Message - From: dana tierney To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: Re: It's for the oil erm, whom do we believe? Dana [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
for the oil To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fox Mulder? - Original Message - From: dana tierney To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: Re: It's for the oil erm, whom do we believe? Dana [Todays Threads] [This Message

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
Because Mr. Bin Laden wants something we have - Saudi Arabia. Being a Muslim, Mr. Bin Laden would like a new government in the country that contains the 2 most holy cities in Islam, Mecca and Medina. I disagree. Bin Laden wants an Islamic empire stretching from Spain to Pakistan and down to

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
the way I understand it. Dana - Original Message - From: Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:00:32 -0400 Subject: Re: It's for the oil To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because Mr. Bin Laden wants something we have - Saudi Arabia. Being a Muslim, Mr. Bin Laden would

RE: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
a true picture. :) _ erm, whom do we believe? Dana - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:15:25 -0400 Subject: Re: It's for the oil To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] And we believe the BBC why exactly? No, seriously, all of the content

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:15:06 -0400 Subject: RE: It's for the oil To: CF-Community [EMAIL PROTECTED] Multiple, non-related news sources compiled together with other information. I KNOW that just about every news agency has their own biases and agendas. They also feed off of each others news

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Robert Munn
I think bin Laden is offended by Saudi ties to the US, which he sees as morally corrupt. Of course the Saudis are interested in internal stabilty, as are most regimes. They do face an internal challenge from the Muslim version of the religious right. Absolutely, every government wants internal

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread dana tierney
agreed. I'd deplore either of those eventualities but if enacted by an elected government... I mean, you either believe in the system or you don't. Dana - Original Message - From: Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:54:17 -0400 Subject: Re: It's for the oil To: CF

Re: It's for the oil (WOT)

2004-09-14 Thread Gruss Gott
Should he have footnoted? Hi Dana, It would be impossible for me to footnote since I didn't include anybody's content.I originally wrote them just to organize my own thoughts on things, and I wrote 2: one on fiscal policy (America the Bankrupt) and the second on foreign policy (Iraq: the real

Re: It's for the oil

2004-09-14 Thread Sam Morris
--- Gruss Gott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Bin Laden would like a new government in the country that contains the 2 most holy cities in Islam, Mecca and Medina. Al Qaeda had a country they could hide in and now thatÂ’s gone. What on earth makes you think any country would let them form a new