Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Brendan Avery
hey tim-- i'm still working on an appropriate response -- so much work to do today, but you have some good points and i want to continue the discussion flame- free :) :) i do actually agree with a lot of the libertarian philosophy-- most of my friends are voting libertarians, but as an anarchis

Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Jon Hall
Objectivism is all about the individual...not the corporation. I think you are letting todays corporate America slant your view of what Ayn's philosophy was. How long though do you think before this so called "dead end" actually dies? Even in the very first democracy in Greece, the more money a ci

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Timothy Heald
If you go to the archive it's there now. Not sure if it will go out in the mail or not :) -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 9:31 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand? I have a longish reply that I wrote, bu

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Timothy Heald
ecember 16, 2002 8:13 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand? my issue isn't with the leaders of industry, tim -- the process and environment is already there to be used by whosoever can come along and make use of it. my issue is with the people who promote the

L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Timothy Heald
Sorry for the snips, my mail server is barfing on big emails right now. No flame war necessary. Just a difference of opinion. I haven't read anything from Noam Chomsky, although I found several sites about him and his work, and I assure you I will make an effort to do so this evening. "Corpor

Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Brendan Avery
m: Timothy Heald Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:37 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand? > > > Hehe, > Again 2 of my favorite authors. > > "highly exploitative capitalistic self-actualization mythologies" > &

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Timothy Heald
-Original Message- From: Timothy Heald Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 7:37 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand? Hehe, Again 2 of my favorite authors. "highly exploitative capitalistic self-actualization mythol

RE: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Timothy Heald
t's the problem here. Any way have a great day. Tim -Original Message- From: Brendan Avery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 4:09 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand? hmmm... well, they were both extremely hor

Re: L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Brendan Avery
hmmm... well, they were both extremely horrible writers who expouse highly exploitative capitalistic self-actualization mythologies. could be a clue. brendan heber miscavage iii church of scientology international sea organization-2nd lieutenant humiliation, extortion, and celebrity-welfare div

L.Ron Hubbard WAS Re: Me as Ayn Rand?

2002-12-16 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Hmm. L. Ron Hubbard and Ayn Rand the same person? He tackles the SF market and converts them all to scientology. Then, in his spare time under the pseudonym Ayn Rand, he works on the mundanes with his Objectivist ideas. Discuss ... Judith