Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-17 Thread Dana
hreeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > >> >> At least he apologized right away when he was confronted instead of >> dragging >> it on for day before realizing his wallet was hemorrhaging... >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier

Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-17 Thread Dana
t was hemorrhaging... > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:08 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire > > > yep, heard about that on NPR news earlier. Apparently the author said he &

RE: Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-17 Thread Eric Roberts
At least he apologized right away when he was confronted instead of dragging it on for day before realizing his wallet was hemorrhaging... -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 9:08 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Liar Liar Pants on

Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The show is on right now on the local NPR station (http://wamu.org/audio-player/885_1). FWIW its a pretty damning report on how Daisey lied. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > A good comparison, would Faux Snooze ever have done such a retraction, > or even admit an error in

Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
A good comparison, would Faux Snooze ever have done such a retraction, or even admit an error in the first place? On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Dana wrote: > > well NPR *broadcast* it so it reflects on them. I heard it on KQED. > > I'll wait to hear the retraction before commenting further.

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2012-03-17 Thread Dana
well NPR *broadcast* it so it reflects on them. I heard it on KQED. I'll wait to hear the retraction before commenting further. I think that's essentially the divide though, but TAM isn't really a *news* show. I remember one segment about one guy renting an apartment when he was 15 in the sixtie

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2012-03-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
It's not an NPR show, so they shouldn't get any credit. Or blame. It is obvious that Daisey thinks of his piece as a performance piece, with plenty of dramatic license, that falls somewhere between Death of a Salesman and Lake Woebegone on the "need for accuracy" spectrum. Plenty of dramatic lice

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2012-03-17 Thread Dana
I have not heard it yet but I've listened to the show quite a few times. Usually the stories are fairly personal. But they are presented as true. Not performance art. Real stories that happened to real people. The show's coming up later today, but I'll use the link if I miss it. I have to give NPR

Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-17 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Start listening. Its been pretty good. Unlike many on the radio, especially in talk/rant radio, Ira Glass has a great deal of integrity. On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I thought this week's show, called retraction, was gripping. Well worth the > hour. > > About a

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2012-03-17 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I thought this week's show, called retraction, was gripping. Well worth the hour. About as well done a mea culpa as I've ever heard http://www.thisamericanlife.org/ The pauses in the audio are profound. The very last act is the most surprising part. I had never heard of nor listened to TAM be

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2012-03-16 Thread Dana
yep, heard about that on NPR news earlier. Apparently the author said he shouldn't have done it because This American Life is more journalistic that theatric. Gee, ya think? I haven't looked at the specifics, but it seems to me that even in theater, if you are making shocking allegations about spe

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2012-03-16 Thread Judah McAuley
Yeah, presenting performance art as journalism is probably not the best idea. On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > "This American Life has retracted its episode about working conditions at > Foxconn. Apple challenged the veracity of the reporting in the piece when > if f

Re: Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-16 Thread Sam
Without caring either way about this story I did notice the problem was that it says the poisoning happened a 1000 miles away. . On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > "This American Life has retracted its episode about working conditions at > Foxconn. Apple challenged t

Liar Liar Pants on Fire....

2012-03-16 Thread Cameron Childress
"This American Life has retracted its episode about working conditions at Foxconn. Apple challenged the veracity of the reporting in the piece when if first ran in January, and in an episode set to air later today, the radio show will confirm that Mike Daisey made up some of the most shocking fact