Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-07 Thread Gruss Gott
And there has been no real wage growth since 1973! That's an amazing stat. On Oct 7, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM, GMoney wrote: >> (This current row is no different. We go into a hissy fit over an >> unemployment rate that most countries would

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-07 Thread GMoney
Very interesting take,Judah, as usual. Good thoughts. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I can respect your point of view but I see it differently. > > If you are out of work and go work your ass off to try and find a job > you will (hopefully) solve the problem for yours

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-07 Thread Judah McAuley
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:56 PM, GMoney wrote: > (This current row is no different. We go into a hissy fit over an > unemployment rate that most countries would die to have.) > You know, I read this bit the other day and it's been sticking in the back of my head. I wondered if it was true at all,

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-06 Thread Larry Lyons
>i often wonder, would protests like cairo saw reap the same sort of >response and change, here in the US? > Unfortunately in this country the same sort of protest would most likely be tolerated for a very short while until the police go in with the truncheons etc. Then it would be a matter of

RE: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Very well said Judah! -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:42 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault I can respect your point of view bu

RE: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Tell that to MLK or Ghandi... -Original Message- From: GMoney [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 3:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault "I think everyone has the right

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread K-Sea - dvsDJTV.com
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Sam wrote: > Are you hippies still blaming Nixon for that? > > Move on. > Hippies tend to make a lot of money and invest in their local economy, just wait till Ravers take over things! ~| Orde

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Sam wrote: > > Please explain how Wall street made the jobs go away? > > Short Selling! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/14302721

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Maureen
I place blame where blame is due. And I don't consider being called a hippie an insult, so you can put that one back in your insult bag. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Sam wrote: > > Are you hippies still blaming Nixon for that? > > Move on. > > . > > On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Maureen w

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Vivec
Look up what happens when an economy crashes. On 5 October 2011 18:32, Sam wrote: > > Please explain how Wall street made the jobs go away? > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusi

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Sam
Are you hippies still blaming Nixon for that? Move on. . On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I did a bit of anti-war and civil rights protesting back in the day. > The protests were a lot of fun until the cops showed up with the tear > gas.  All of the fun stopped when Kent Stat

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Maureen
I did a bit of anti-war and civil rights protesting back in the day. The protests were a lot of fun until the cops showed up with the tear gas. All of the fun stopped when Kent State happened. Nixon seriously hated the anti-war movement, and sic'd his goons on it in full force. After that, w

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Sam
Please explain how Wall street made the jobs go away? On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Vivec wrote: > > The facts are that the current financial mess is due to decisions made on > Wall Street that were completely profit oriented, and in some instances made > with the full knowledge of the possib

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Maureen
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:06 PM, GMoney wrote: >In almost all cases, I think there are many more productive things a > person could be doing, besides protesting." Such as? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Vivec
Why are the two mutually exclusive? Why can't you protest for part of a day, while answering interview calls, sending out resumes etc. for the other part of the day? I'm baffled at why one would think that because someone protests, they aren't doing anything to find a job. The facts are that th

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Judah McAuley
I can respect your point of view but I see it differently. If you are out of work and go work your ass off to try and find a job you will (hopefully) solve the problem for yourself for an indeterminate amount of time. If you are out of work and go try to change the system, you will (hopefully) c

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > i often wonder, would protests like cairo saw reap the same sort of > response and change, here in the US? > If the problem were real enough, yes. These other countries that eventually see uprisings that result in the ouster of the ruling dy

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Sam wrote: > > So Cain is right, they're sheeple being led as an attack on capitalism? > > . > "Stock Market" Capitalism in it's current form is going to fail. Government will step in and require additional safe guards from these protests to keep the FAST MONEY

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Sam
So they need someone to blame, besides the leader, sounds familiar. Start with Wall street and bankers, guess who's next. . On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:41 PM, GMoney wrote: > > People don't like to admit this, but protests are almost always constituted > by a large number of "sheeple".people

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Scott Stewart
I doubt it.. I think we've become to jaded. If this was the early 60's I'd say maybe, but now.. it would just become a media circus. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > i often wonder, would protests like cairo saw reap the same sort of > response and change, here in the US? >

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Ras Tafari
i often wonder, would protests like cairo saw reap the same sort of response and change, here in the US? On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:41 PM, GMoney wrote: > > People don't like to admit this, but protests are almost always constituted > by a large number of "sheeple".people who maybe kinda know

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread GMoney
People don't like to admit this, but protests are almost always constituted by a large number of "sheeple".people who maybe kinda know what the protest is supposed to be about, but are really there for some other reasonbe it boredom, confusion, general mischief, whatever. The larger the p

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Sam
So Cain is right, they're sheeple being led as an attack on capitalism? . On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Casey Dougall wrote: >> >> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1MOMKZ8BI > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology no

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > So you disagree with people having the right to protest, or at least those > with whom you disagree with politically. > Not sure how you got that from my posttry rereading it. If you still think i'm saying that, read it again. Keep read

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Larry Lyons
So you disagree with people having the right to protest, or at least those with whom you disagree with politically. >You know what? > >If i lost my job tomorrow, i'd have two options: > >1) Try to find another job in my field, or failing that, adapt >2) Go sit out on Wall Street and blame someon

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Larry Lyons
I think the Cain quote in the article says it all "I don't have facts to back this up..." So in other words he's just acting like any other politician, willing to lie etc for the votes. He's just a bit more inexperienced at hiding it is all. ~~~

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > ive never not had a job. > and it was completely my choices that led me to this end. > > go the fuck out there and get a job lazy fucks. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1MOMKZ8BI ~~~

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Ras Tafari
ive never not had a job. and it was completely my choices that led me to this end. go the fuck out there and get a job lazy fucks. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Sam wrote: > > Yeah baby! I'm voting for him. > > If you voted for Obama and you're out of work it's your own damn fault. > I know h

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Sam
Yeah baby! I'm voting for him. If you voted for Obama and you're out of work it's your own damn fault. I know he didn't say that, I'm just clarifying for him. . On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/herman-cain-occupy-wall-street_n_996265.htm

Re: Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread GMoney
You know what? If i lost my job tomorrow, i'd have two options: 1) Try to find another job in my field, or failing that, adapt 2) Go sit out on Wall Street and blame someone else, all the while not doing shit to actually help myself Even if I agree with the cause of protesters, I generally neve

Mantra of the evil empire - If you don't have a job it's your own damn fault

2011-10-05 Thread Vivec
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/05/herman-cain-occupy-wall-street_n_996265.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp0009 "Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself! " Yes, it is your own damn fault that you got fired, and it's your own