Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-31 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I looked at a few of these." Only 440+/- more to go. After these I have another 450. Keeping digging. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go out and buy so

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-30 Thread Vivec
I looked at a few of these. They don't say that the earth isn't warming. They argue that human activity is not the root cause of it. "Of the seven models, six show a warming trend over the 20th Century similar in timing and magnitude to the Northern Hemisphere instrumental series. One of the mod

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Can you show me a peer reviewed report that says the Earth is not getting warmer?" You can start here: http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/reprint/450_peer_reviewed_papers.pdf J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-30 Thread Vivec
Whatever dude. Can you show me a peer reviewed report that says the Earth is not getting warmer? On 30 July 2011 08:31, Sam wrote: > > Except the earth stopped "warming" a decade ago. That's why they call > it climate change instead of global warming now. ~~~

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-30 Thread Sam
Except the earth stopped "warming" a decade ago. That's why they call it climate change instead of global warming now. . On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Vivec wrote: > > You know, I don't see it that way at all. > > There are several facts. > > FACT: > > The earth is heating up. > > FACT: > >

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-30 Thread Sam
Don't you mean the President because they have a plan he's going to veto and he has no plan. . On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Grussgott wrote: > > > The tea party and republicans that are following them should be tried for > treason. > ~~~

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-30 Thread Vivec
You know, I don't see it that way at all. There are several facts. FACT: The earth is heating up. FACT: The warmer planet is causing adverse weather conditions and the rise of the world's sea levels. It's pushing species (including our own) closer to extinction. FACT: Greenhouse Gases trap

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
"This article ceased to be news and became opinion 25 words in." The whole man-made global warming argument is opinion, on both sides. It's just that one side says "Trust me". Anytime you have to say "Trust me", my suspicions are awakened. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other te

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Maureen
This article ceased to be news and became opinion 25 words in. Perhaps the 100+ degree heat recently baked the writer's brain. On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism > > Excerpt: > > NASA satell

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Grussgott wrote: > Yeah, what's shocking to me is a few things: > This is the nasa thread... Whats more shocking to me is how come the moon looks like it rotated on it's access when it's in sync with Earth and we always see the same side? That spider crack loo

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Grussgott
d On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: >> >> New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism > > > First the hole in the ozone and now this? Is the gaping hole over > Was

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism First the hole in the ozone and now this? Is the gaping hole over Washington DC? Because they have been acting particularly douchbaggy lately... -Cameron -- Cameron Chi

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Climate is much more predictable than weather. " Just because it is more predictable doesn't mean it is reliably predictable. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tun

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Psst... weather != climate Climate is much more predictable than weather. For an understanding of why, I suggest you go back to a non-linear dynamics book, Jerry. I know you're a math dude so if you didn't take it in college, I'm sure you can pick it up. Judah On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:51 AM, J

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"We don't understand how weather works so the debate will never be closed . . ." Exactly. Which is why it irks me when the cult of man made global warming acts as if it is established fact. - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politici

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Grussgott
We don't understand how weather works so the debate will never be closed just like we have no idea what the factors are to 100% prevent your house from getting hit by a tornado or burning down. So we manage the risk with insurance and that's what we should do with GW. We will never know if co

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"So...the ice isn't melting at an increasing rate? The earth ISN'T getting hotter? Your article doesn't address these facts." It's not my article. Just something I thought was interesting. If it doesn't address those issues, so what? The earth got hotter and ice was melting at an increasing ra

Re: New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-29 Thread Vivec
ppen at 2030 instead. Is that something to rejoice about and claim Global Warming isn't a serious threat? On 28 July 2011 21:35, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism > > Excerpt: ~

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-28 Thread Jerry Barnes
New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism Excerpt: NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed sc