Subject: Re: One Libertarian point of
view?(Was Re:Legalist It)
08/03/2001
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From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 5:26 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: One Libertarian point of view?(Was Re:Legalist It)
I don't have any muffins, but I can toss some kudos Howard's way.
Howard,
I haven't taken the test you
I don't have any muffins, but I can toss some kudos Howard's way.
Howard,
I haven't taken the test you guys mentioned, but I have no doubt that I
would fall in the liberal square on any test without a Libertarian bias
to it (although my first exposure to the Libertarian platform was in
2000, and
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From: "Adam Phillip Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: One Libertarian point of view?
> Gel,
>
> I read your message below very carefull
*clap clap clap*
MUFFINS! FREE MUFFINS FOR THE Month for Howard!
:)
hee hee hee
I too normally fall into the Libertarian squares, but if you do some background
checking, at least the political test I took,
was sponsored by a Libertarian organisation. This one was with squares and all that..I
Exactly.
The sum of the culture extends beyond their political system.
Which is why I think that anyone that discounts such a culture in all its rich variety
as simply being 'communist',or who
only sees the negatives of that culture, is incredibly myopic.
-Gel
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From
ity
Subject: Re: One Libertarian point of view?(Was Re:Legalist It)
> > If a human being is worth investing in, private enterprise will make
that
> investment
>
> In my opinion, events like Love Canal prove that business cannot be
trusted
> to make ethical decisions that suppo
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Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:52 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: One Libertarian point of view?
As for Chinese culture, certain individuals really need to read a lot more.
They have focussed, just as I said, on all the
negatives of that society. Is one suggesting that
: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:19 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: One Libertarian point of view?
Don't get me wrong. I think Capitalism is the best economic system the
world has ever seen, and it provides the environment for the best
governments. But Communism took root, in Russia anyway, prec
ation
to a greater good.) In other words, Marx was a utopian, and like most
utopians, he really didn't understand human nature.
H.
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From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 2:24 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: One Libertaria
uch as it was.
-Gel
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From: Adam Phillip Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 10:30 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: One Libertarian point of view?
When you do, perhaps you'll directly answer the question I posed i
Todd Ashworth wrote:
>
> So .. like I said, I don't expect society will change all that
> much once we get out there and start colonizing other planets. We
> will act out there just like we do here. People are people :)
>
> Todd
>
You said a mouthful, there, Todd. For me, most arguments abo
> I believe we CAN end world Hunger, it IS in our power to do so.
>
> If the population approaches such that the world cannot sustain it then
measures can be implemented to slow population
> growth. Such measures have been implemented in highly overpopulated
regions such as China already with a go
Correct..but certain people seem incapable of seeing that point of view, since they
are apparently one of the Haves, for whom
Libertarianism would work just perfectly.
As for Chinese culture, certain individuals really need to read a lot more. They have
focussed, just as I said, on all the
nega
Adam Phillip Churvis wrote:
>
> > You agreed with
> > this when you wrote "despite all claims to the counter", recognising that
> this was not how it was supposed to be, and not
> > what was stated.
>
> I NEVER agreed that Communism sounded good on paper, nor would I ever.
> "Despite all claims
Adam Phillip Churvis wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reassurance. It came at a good time for me. I owe you one,
> my friend. :)
>
Same to you, Adam. I have longed for reasoned discussions on the net for
some time now. But, remarkably, impassioned attacks seem the norm rather
than calm discussion wi
> You agreed with
> this when you wrote "despite all claims to the counter", recognising that
this was not how it was supposed to be, and not
> what was stated.
I NEVER agreed that Communism sounded good on paper, nor would I ever.
"Despite all claims to the counter" was in reference to the fact
I'm a bit too tipsy right now to give your questions the answers they deserve..or
maybe its the other way around and I'm so
tipsy that I may give you exactly the answer that statement deserves hee hee
But at any rate, I don't see having to pay taxes as someone STEALING anything from you.
I'
I believe we CAN end world Hunger, it IS in our power to do so.
If the population approaches such that the world cannot sustain it then measures can
be implemented to slow population
growth. Such measures have been implemented in highly overpopulated regions such as
China already with a good me
> Is that all you can say?
No, it's just a question that let's me know the true vantage point from
which your opinions come.
> Can you refute that what I suggest will not be the outcome based on the
premise you've put forward in previous posts for
> Libertarianism?
Yes, and I have. Please see
While I don't really have an opinion on Libertarianism, I do have a few
opinions about human nature ..
> Until we COLLECTIVELY want an end to world hunger and famine, it will NOT
HAPPEN!
You can't end 'world hunger' anyway. No matter how much food there is, the
population will always grow to pu
Yes, well, that is why I ended that paragraph with: "That is as it SHOULD be.."
No, Greed of the type I suggested is clearly not a need to put a roof over your kid's
head.
And while the spiel about market forces is true, that in and of itself does not
guarantee the sort of society that would t
Is that all you can say?
Can you refute that what I suggest will not be the outcome based on the premise you've
put forward in previous posts for
Libertarianism?
No I am not a communist.
And so what if I were?
Would that change anything I've said?
Communism was another theory that seemed great o
Angel wrote:
>The point I've been making, is that Corporations are concerned with making
>money. Making more of it, while putting out as
>little of it as possible.
Since much of my retirement funds and that of many other people rest on
corporate profits, I sure as hell hope they are concerned
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From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: One Liberta
Thanks for the reassurance. It came at a good time for me. I owe you one,
my friend. :)
> thoughtfulness. However, despite the ever-popular sentiment against
> people (generations of families) on welfare, there are a number of
> people who have never reached the point that they can become
> sel
Look,
The point I've been making, is that Corporations are concerned with making money.
Making more of it, while putting out as
little of it as possible.
Greed is a selfish, terrible thing that helps absolutely no one. You cannot base a way
of life, and a society on Greed and
expect it to grow
Adam Phillip Churvis wrote:
>
> I do not believe that someone else's need gives them the right to take from
> me what I have earned through hard work and determination and a lifetime of
> making the right decisions. It is effortless to fall to the position of
> need, whereas it requires signific
Well, absolutism/extremism & hissy fits aside, I'm pleased that somebody
can advocate a sensible reason for curtailing our "War on Drugs." The
Libertarians do this in spades. The other parties would do well to pay
attention. I think the idea is gaining momentum.
Angél Stewart wrote:
>
> I see yo
> Let's examine Private Enterprise.
> Let's take roadworks.
Cost effective roads will exist where cost effective roads are needed. The
absolute laws of economics and free enterprise demand it. Follow the
biological development model of building a road network, and you will see
this is as plain
> And nope...I never said I knew better what to do with other people's hard
earned money.
> Where did I say that?
When you made the argument for all those social services. Those are paid
for with tax dollars, and every penny of tax is collected at the point of a
gun by people who claim that they
There you go...taking it all too seriously again :)
And you probably will never understand my 'mindset' since it isn't always 'serious'...
And nope...I never said I knew better what to do with other people's hard earned money.
Where did I say that?
;-)
And I can't believe you would construe what
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: One Libertarian point of view?(Was Re:Legalist It)
> > And when people misbehave they get sent to The Room where an everlasting
> artificial intelligence tells them the error of
> > their ways. We call
> And when people misbehave they get sent to The Room where an everlasting
artificial intelligence tells them the error of
> their ways. We call it A.D.A.M...
> (*glances at Churvis and chuckles*)
Ad homonym attacks now? You totally miss the point. Everything I have
espoused was confined to my
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