RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-25 Thread Christopher Olive
-Community Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question Oh...your a sick demented individual. I mean that in the nicest possbile way though. :) - Original Message - From: "Christopher Olive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 25

Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-25 Thread Jon Hall
Oh...your a sick demented individual. I mean that in the nicest possbile way though. :) - Original Message - From: "Christopher Olive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:39 AM Subject: RE: 486 PCs

RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-25 Thread Christopher Olive
bject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question I dont know either python or perl, but I've seen the syntax for both. Python looks very nice and object oriented, while at first glance perl looks like VB for Unix. Blech! - Original Message - From: "Christopher Olive" <[EMAIL PROTEC

RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread Howard Owens
Another vote for "it's fine." I don't see a problem with it at all. I wouldn't see a problem with it if you went into business restoring 486s and pocketed all of the profits. So long as you are up front with people about what they're getting. There are a lot of people who can't afford the lates

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2002-03-22 Thread Jon Hall
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > boo python. :) perl comes with the standard "server" install of RH 7.2 > > christopher olive > cto, vp of web development, vp it security > atnet solutions, inc. >

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2002-03-22 Thread Josh Remus
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question Alright, everyone's point has been taken and I think I see the light. There is value in the machine whether it be as an SMTP server or a doorstop. As I have been honest about the transaction, I hav

RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread Christopher Olive
day, March 22, 2002 3:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question or use python it should come with rh Bill Wheatley Director of Development AEPS INC www.aeps.com Macromedia ColdFusion Alliance Consulting Partner Macromedia ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Developer 954-472-6684 X303 I

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2002-03-22 Thread William Wheatley
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:24 PM Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question > write a shell/perl script and make it a cron job. > > christopher olive > cto, vp of web development, vp it security &

RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread Christopher Olive
PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question Alright, everyone's point has been taken and I think I see the light. There is value in the machine whether it be as an SMTP server or a doorstop. As I have been honest about the transaction, I have no moral culpability in selling

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2002-03-22 Thread Haggerty, Michael A.
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 3:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question I had 2 486/33s and a 486/66. I gave away the nicer of the 33s to old family friends and they were thrilled because not only was it nicer than what they had but it also came with a co

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2002-03-22 Thread Greenwood, Erin E.
computer but it is not at the top of the list right now. In other words, sometimes anything is better than nothing. : ) e -Original Message- From: Michael Corrigan To: CF-Community Sent: 3/22/2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question You shouldn't feel guilty for other peo

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2002-03-22 Thread Nick McClure
I agree, there is a big difference between selling a drunk guy another beer and a computer guy another computer. The drunk guy can harm others. At 01:01 PM 3/22/2002 -0600, you wrote: >You shouldn't feel guilty for other people's shortcomings. They're adults >and can make their own decisions

Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread Michael Corrigan
A. To: CF-Community Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question I had the same mentality for a while, but now it feels like I am exploiting other's weaknesses. Some people cannot help but purchase computers in the same way alcoholics cannot help

Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread William Wheatley
- From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question > Couple of points here: > 1. 486 machines do fine for simple email clients, word processors and &

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2002-03-22 Thread Hatton Humphrey
Couple of points here: 1. 486 machines do fine for simple email clients, word processors and spreadsheet machines. As a developer you should know that there are people that are more than fine with old technology. 2. If you are donating 100% of what you're getting back from sales back to the sc

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2002-03-22 Thread BethF
Michael, As long as they understand what the machines are, its certainly not immoral to sell them the computers. Especially if you arne't keeping the $$. --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) Anchora

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2002-03-22 Thread Russel Madere
t: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:00 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question > > > I think it's only morally wrong if you mislead them. If you > explain to them that these are old machines that you've > refurbished, and they still want to buy them, t

RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread Rick Eidson
Install Linux and run SMTP, DNS or Mojordomo Rick -Original Message- From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:04 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question Sell them to a company that does A+ training or something like that. They probably

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2002-03-22 Thread Haggerty, Michael A.
alker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:54 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question Sell more. If someone wants to buy a doorstop, well then, sell them a doorstop. :) Erika >>|--

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2002-03-22 Thread Todd
Sell them to a company that does A+ training or something like that. They probably always need new parts for the students to break and you know there is a real need for the stuff and that it will be used. Plus, it's a tax write-off for the company .. cost of doing business and all that. Don't k

Re: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread Michael Corrigan
I think it's only morally wrong if you mislead them. If you explain to them that these are old machines that you've refurbished, and they still want to buy them, then take the money and give it to your church. In my experience with church charities, they can really use and stretch those dollar

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2002-03-22 Thread Braver, Ben
I agree with Eri*K*a, especially if you TOLD them it's a doorstop and they still want it. -Ben > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:54 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: 486 PCs - Moral Q

RE: 486 PCs - Moral Question

2002-03-22 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Sell more. If someone wants to buy a doorstop, well then, sell them a doorstop. :) Erika >>|-Original Message- >>|From: Haggerty, Michael A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>|Sent: 22 March 2002 16:52 >>|To: CF-Community >>|Subject