Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
He's got Jewish genes which was good enough for the Germans. Point is, he's pointed to as a 'representative' of the 'Jewish controlled media'. I'd love for those who throw the term around to actually show us who these Jews are? > Pinchy Sulzberger is not Jewish. His family is but he was raised

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-14 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I was not being anti-French in this. I was actually quoting a news report from the day of or the day after the event that the French government knew about the plot and had related public information about it including it's Pakistani source. Why would you think I was attacking the France in this?

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-14 Thread Dana
the thing with France is getting REALLY old. On 8/12/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's just being bigoted. The press has not reported any of the > > details because they were not released by the British government until > > Friday. Then it became clear who they were. > B

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-14 Thread Sam
Pinchy Sulzberger is not Jewish. His family is but he was raised Episcopalian. Maybe that's why he's so against Israel, everyone keeps calling him a Jew. On 8/13/06, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > Reuters and BBC) are not Jewish in the least. The NY Times is Jewish owned > but liberal in it's acceptanc

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
, 2006 6:03 AM Subject: Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted > On 8/13/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> There have been analysis of news headlines that have shown that when two >> events happen, > > It seems that both honestreporting.com and camera.com have a str

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-13 Thread Maureen
On 8/13/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There have been analysis of news headlines that have shown that when two > events happen, It seems that both honestreporting.com and camera.com have a strong and admitted pro-Israeli stance. I cannot help but wonder how many errors they w

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-13 Thread Michael Dinowitz
There have been analysis of news headlines that have shown that when two events happen, if the event was caused by Israel, the mention that it was Israel's 'fault' is in the headlines. When the event was Palestinian (for example), the headline was neutral without an identifying nationality. htt

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-13 Thread Maureen
I'm very curious about this statement. Do you really believe that the media has an agenda of bias against Israel to the extent that they deliberately publish stories that make Israel look bad? Or simply that they are quicker to assume that Israel is in the wrong while giving all other countries th

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-12 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > AQ is not what it once was. > Look at the group arrested in Canada with AQ ties. Yeah, if by ties you > mean they were on the same web site that some AQ might have visited once. > Yeah, your posts aren't coming out for awhile ... Anyhoo, yeah, I agree. I'd even go so far as to

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-12 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> That's just being bigoted. The press has not reported any of the > details because they were not released by the British government until > Friday. Then it became clear who they were. Bigoted? How am I being a bigot? Who am I being a bigot against? If I accused the Amish out of hand (the only

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-12 Thread Larry Lyons
> Note that neither the AP nor Reuters say in any way, shape or form who > these suspects are. They may well be Amish for all they are telling us. > OK, they say it's "suggestive of an al-Qaida plot", but say it's still > too soon to tell. > Bottom line is that the press is telling you about th

RE: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread loathe
, 2006 12:48 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted > > > tBone wrote: > > These support estimates mean as much as the "street value" estimates > that we > > get after drug arrests. Nothing. They are made up numbers from some > > analys

Re: Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Mark Drew
Aparently they are British born asians. This Al-Quaeda thing isnt really a thing, nor network, its loose cells. Meh, another day another terrorist thing. First the IRA now these muppets... its all fun. MD (and yes, I live in london, so I am not taking the piss) http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/inde

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > These support estimates mean as much as the "street value" estimates that we > get after drug arrests. Nothing. They are made up numbers from some > analyst. > I don't agree. I think it's safe to assume that for every suicide bomber there has to be a network of people supporting

RE: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread loathe
> To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted > > > cHat wrote: > > The only mention he made of AQ was that the attacks were "well > > planned, well prepared, showing all the signs and indicators that is > > was done by Al Quaeda" Nothing official th

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Robert Munn
In case anyone needed a reminder that we are still engaged in a fight to the death with Islamic fascism... On 8/10/06, Gruss wrote: > > LONDON - British authorities said Thursday they had thwarted a > terrorist plot to simultaneously blow up several aircraft heading to > the U.S. using explosives

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread G Money
I'm not sure it's even accurate or relevant anymore to refer to these groups as "Al Qaeda" or "linked to Al Qaeda". AQ and Bin Laden seem to be more a symbolic rallying cry than a structured organization these days. These killers are linked by a sick ideology...no rank and file necessary. On 8/10

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> cHat wrote: > The only mention he made of AQ was that the attacks were "well > planned, well prepared, showing all the signs and indicators that is > was done by Al Quaeda" Nothing official though. That was this > morning. > Yeah, I heard from a London investigator too and, interestingly, the

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Well, I watched the Chertoff Press Conference this morning and he was > surprisingly informative. However one point he emphatically made was > that he would not disclose who, because it was an on-going > investigation. I heard an intervew this morning with a press correspondant in London. The

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dino wrote: > Note that neither the AP nor Reuters say in any way, shape or form who these > suspects are. Well, I watched the Chertoff Press Conference this morning and he was surprisingly informative. However one point he emphatically made was that he would not disclose who, because it was a

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Jerry Johnson
Agreed. It would only be news if they weren't. At the same time, law enforcement might have given out no other info about them, since it sounds like the investigation is ongoing and hot. On 8/10/06, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's because a Jewish or Israeli terrorist trying to blow u

RE: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread loathe
ommunity > Subject: Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted > > Yes...because that would be utterly unexpected and would sell, wouldn't > it. > Similarly if they were Americans. > > On 8/10/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If they were Jewish or Israeli,

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
no, even the media wouldn't be so crass as to use the deprecated blink tag. On 8/10/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that neither the AP nor Reuters say in any way, shape or form who these > suspects are. They may well be Amish for all they are telling us. OK, they > say i

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread G Money
That's because a Jewish or Israeli terrorist trying to blow up flights from London to the US would be an historical first! They don't need to shout to us that these guys were Islamo fascist assholes...because that's pretty much a given these days. On 8/10/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Vivec
Yes...because that would be utterly unexpected and would sell, wouldn't it. Similarly if they were Americans. On 8/10/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If they were Jewish or Israeli, it would not only be in the first sentance, > it would be in the title with blinking red letters.

Re: Al Quaeda Plot Busted

2006-08-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Note that neither the AP nor Reuters say in any way, shape or form who these suspects are. They may well be Amish for all they are telling us. OK, they say it's "suggestive of an al-Qaida plot", but say it's still too soon to tell. Bottom line is that the press is telling you about the plot, but