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2008-08-27 Thread Erika L. Walker
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2008-08-27 Thread G Money
That's what you get for watching the conventions. You think this is bad, wait until the GOP convention.talk about zombies. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Holy crap what a snoozer. I thought this Mark Warner guy was supposed > to be a big winner. Sn

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2008-08-26 Thread Bruce Sorge
I saw recent polls that put McCain ahead of Obama now. Let the slug fest begin. Bruce Robert Munn wrote: > If this is the best the Democrats can do, they are going down in flames. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

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2008-08-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > If this is the best the Democrats can do, they are going down in flames. > No shit. What a waste of time this has been. The night of a thousand anecdotes and platitudes. Except there was this: http://www.local6.com/news/17303360/detail.html Sam, maybe? ~

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2008-08-26 Thread Robert Munn
If this is the best the Democrats can do, they are going down in flames. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Gruss wrote: > Holy crap what a snoozer. I thought this Mark Warner guy was supposed > to be a big winner. Snore. > ~| Ad

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2004-07-31 Thread dana tierney
> Federally Funded > > > Adolescent Abstinence Promotion: An Evaluation of > > > Evaluations. Paper > > > presented at the Biennial Meeting of the Society for > > > Research on > > > Adolescence, Boston, MA, March 10, 1996. > > > > >

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2004-07-31 Thread dana tierney
-0500 Subject: RE: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug, Dana is in AZ, what about you? Also, educate me, is Teen Pregnancy part of No Child or just a result of Far right BS on abstain or else? Andy   -Original Message-   From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Fri

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2004-07-31 Thread Kevin Graeme
That's why when I mentioned it I referred to it as poorly implemented. The basic concept of students actually learning a core set of knowledge is great. -Kevin On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:11:50 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How bout that? I agree with you. :) > > I don't know m

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2004-07-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
esented at the Biennial Meeting of the Society for > > Research on > > Adolescence, Boston, MA, March 10, 1996. > > > > hth, > > larry > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:31:05 -0500, Andy Ousterhout > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > &

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2004-07-30 Thread Sam Morris
> > Dana is in AZ, what about you? > > > > Also, educate me, is Teen Pregnancy part of No > Child or just a result of Far > > right BS on abstain or else? > > > > Andy > >  -Original Message- > >  From: Doug White [mailto:[EM

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2004-07-30 Thread Doug White
I completely agree with you on this topic D - Original Message -   From: Larry C. Lyons   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:40 PM   Subject: Re: DNC   Actually legitimate peer reviewed research shows that unlike the far   right and the administration's fant

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2004-07-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
TECTED] >  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 5:47 PM >  To: CF-Community >  Subject: Re: DNC > >  Same here, where the program has been a huge failure, and the high school >  dropout rate is higher than ever, as is the teen pregnancy rate. > >  - Original Message - >    F

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2004-07-30 Thread Doug White
I am in San Antonio, Texas Doug   - Original Message -   From: Andy Ousterhout   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:31 PM   Subject: RE: DNC   Doug,   Dana is in AZ, what about you?   Also, educate me, is Teen Pregnancy part of No Child or just a result of Far   right BS

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2004-07-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
ssage -     From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:58:45 -0500     Subject: RE: DNC     To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>     Point of clarification on No Child Left Behind -- Chicago Tribune reported     today that test scores for underprivileged are up

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2004-07-30 Thread Doug White
Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:58:45 -0500   Subject: RE: DNC   To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Point of clarification on No Child Left Behind -- Chicago Tribune reported   today that test scores for underprivileged are up and No Child Left Behind   

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2004-07-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
ng I can't finish, especially when it comes to a lady;-) Have a great weekend.  I am going home and opening a bottle of wine or two. Andy   -Original Message-   From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 5:12 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: DNC

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2004-07-30 Thread dana tierney
Andy Don't get me started on No Child Left Behind :) - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 16:58:45 -0500 Subject: RE: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Point of clarification on No Child Left Behind -- Chicago

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2004-07-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
:31 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: DNC   No, I don't think it's particularly aimed at me. Kerry seems to   overshoot and Bush seems to miss the mark entirely.   On Kerry's side I hear him saying he's "all grow the military" and   "pass everything in the 9/11

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2004-07-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
No, I don't think it's particularly aimed at me. Kerry seems to overshoot and Bush seems to miss the mark entirely. On Kerry's side I hear him saying he's "all grow the military" and "pass everything in the 9/11 recommendations"*. That seems aimed at the right more than the center. His stuff about

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2004-07-30 Thread Andy Ousterhout
EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:12 AM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: DNC   im a staunch republican, and im starting to sway.   even scarborough is starting to crack.   kerry is compelling, i like him alot, and i like the message to the   world.  we are not a group of radical co

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2004-07-30 Thread G
er, a reacter, someone who would say "its on TV, it must be true". I just can't help but feel they'd rather trick the unsuspecting than persuade the unblinking   - Original Message -   From: Kevin Graeme   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 11:20 AM  

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2004-07-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
I've always interpreted swing voters as being independent rather than being so extremist that they are ideologically prejudiced. Like the die-hard Dem/Rep that ALWAYS votes that way regardless of the candidate. I've voted across 3 parties over the last several various major elections and am happil

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2004-07-30 Thread Tony Weeg
OTECTED]> wrote: > Your candor and analysis are refreshing.  It's nice to see you judging the candidates regardless of party lines. > > Howie >  - Original Message - >  From: Tony Weeg >  To: CF-Community >  Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:37 AM >  Subject: Re: DN

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2004-07-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
I've always wondered by a "do nothing" Congress was regarded as a bad thing. Cut Senator's time in session to a third and make them only deal with the really important things and we wouldn't have so many convoluted and contradictory laws. -Kevin On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:17:19 -0400, Won Lee <[EMAIL

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2004-07-30 Thread Won Lee
I told myself that I wouldn't get involved today because my exchange with Sam yesterday left me a little sour, but I can't help myself. This election is going to heat up and it will become rather important.  We have many global and national issues at hand, many of them about the economy.  The S

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2004-07-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
campaigns are designed to push the opponent to the fringe. It amuses me to hear the right and left talk about the all important "swing voters". To me, thats a euphemism for "not particularly intelligent, undecided american citizens who can be swayed by our propaganda"

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2004-07-30 Thread Howie Hamlin
I'm so glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read that :) Reminds me of the punny old days when Ben was here   - Original Message -   From: G   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:51 AM   Subject: Re: DNC   I think he means itWeeg has the look

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2004-07-30 Thread G
I think he means itWeeg has the look of a repub who's gotten Kerry'ed away.   - Original Message -   From: Larry C. Lyons   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 9:43 AM   Subject: Re: DNC   Its times like this I wish I could see the faces of the people   con

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2004-07-30 Thread Howie Hamlin
Your candor and analysis are refreshing.  It's nice to see you judging the candidates regardless of party lines. Howie   - Original Message -   From: Tony Weeg   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:37 AM   Subject: Re: DNC   to this republican, he doesnt seem any

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2004-07-30 Thread Tony Weeg
To me, thats a euphemism for "not particularly intelligent, undecided american citizens who can be swayed by our propaganda" > > > > > > > > >  - Original Message - > > >  From: Doug White > > >  To: CF-Community > > >  Sent: Fr

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2004-07-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
talk about the all important "swing voters". To me, thats a euphemism for "not particularly intelligent, undecided american citizens who can be swayed by our propaganda" > > > > > >  - Original Message - > >  From: Doug White > >  To: C

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2004-07-30 Thread Tony Weeg
k about the all important "swing voters". To me, thats a euphemism for "not particularly intelligent, undecided american citizens who can be swayed by our propaganda" > > >  - Original Message - >  From: Doug White >  To: CF-Community >  Sent: Friday, July 30

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2004-07-30 Thread G
ot particularly intelligent, undecided american citizens who can be swayed by our propaganda"   - Original Message -   From: Doug White   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 8:38 AM   Subject: Re: DNC   Very Liberal is how the Republicans have painted him in their $91 mil

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2004-07-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
You know, it's funny that it's that kind of message that is required to get the swing. Because I thought it was pretty disconcerting how much he talked about being tough on terror, growing the military, "doubling the special forces to engage in terrorist...to engage in anti-terrorist missions" (I c

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2004-07-30 Thread Doug White
Very Liberal is how the Republicans have painted him in their $91 million slam campaign, but actually he is much more centrist than was first perceived. So much so it is making Bush appear as a right wing radical (extremist) and that has many Republicans turning off and tuning out.   - Origin

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2004-07-30 Thread G
Problem is, Kerry is very liberal, always has been. Sois he just masking that now cuz it plays better, or has he actually softened??   - Original Message -   From: Doug White   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 10:35 PM   Subject: Re: DNC   I think he came

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2004-07-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Reminds me, I saw a great button in a photo of some of the convention delegates: Stop Mad Cowboy Disease larry On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 09:11:41 -0400, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > im a staunch republican, and im starting to sway. > > even scarborough is starting to crack. > > kerry is co

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2004-07-30 Thread Tony Weeg
im a staunch republican, and im starting to sway. even scarborough is starting to crack. kerry is compelling, i like him alot, and i like the message to the world.  we are not a group of radical cowboys ready to take over any country, we are a group of smart, conservative, democratic, compassiona

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2004-07-29 Thread Doug White
I think he came across as more centrist instead of the flaming liberal as has been painted by the Bush side of the isle.   - Original Message -   From: Michael T. Tangorre   Great night for the Dems in my opinion. Kerry spoke very well; him and   Edwards will be tough competition.   Mik

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2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
Washington correspondent for Southam News? (They own most of the newspapers in Canada.) Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- dana tierney <[EMAIL PR

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2004-07-28 Thread dana tierney
sounds good to me :) - Original Message - From: Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 22:01:32 -0400 Subject: Re: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Two cents in on this one... I think that the idea behind the electoral College is still a valid one

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2004-07-28 Thread Jim Davis
Sure. immodestly I was rather proud of that one myself.  ;^) Jim Davis   _   From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: DNC Love this line, can I quote you? >Asking "what if" is rarely useful in life, ne

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2004-07-28 Thread William Bowen
Love this line, can I quote you? >Asking "what if" is rarely useful in life, never useful in politics and >always useful in science. Seriously! will [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

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2004-07-28 Thread Doug White
I saw it live on NPR, but did not record it - I would like to see it again as well.  That guy is an awesome orator!   - Original Message -   From: Won Lee   Anyone have a link with a video of Obama's speech?   I would very much like to see it.  CNN's video is not free =(   Foxnews.com ha

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2004-07-28 Thread Won Lee
nbc.com/modules/interactive.asp?id=/d/ip/dnc_tuesday_videos_152 >/data.js > >2/data.js&navid=3032091&fmt=full> &navid=3032091&fmt=full > > > >Jim Davis > > > >   _ > >From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:05 AM &

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2004-07-28 Thread Howie Hamlin
Right-wing vitriol is equal opportunity.   - Original Message -   From: Won Lee   To: CF-Community   Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:25 AM   Subject: RE: DNC   >Yes, I get very angry when I here people praise   >Carter. It's one of my weaknesses.   This is a joke or are

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2004-07-28 Thread Won Lee
>Yes, I get very angry when I here people praise >Carter. It's one of my weaknesses. This is a joke or are you serious? Carter is man noted for his compassion and grace.  I've read that he thanked President Ford in his inauguration speech for steering American towards prosperity.  He was also ve

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2004-07-28 Thread Jim Davis
2004 9:05 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: DNC Anyone have a link with a video of Obama's speech? I would very much like to see it.  CNN's video is not free =( Foxnews.com has highlights but not his full speech. Thanks [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast

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2004-07-28 Thread Jim Davis
http://www.c-span.org/ looks like they have it, but only in Real format (which personally I just won't install anymore). Jim Davis   _   From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:05 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: DNC Anyone have a link with a vid

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2004-07-28 Thread Won Lee
Anyone have a link with a video of Obama's speech? I would very much like to see it.  CNN's video is not free =( Foxnews.com has highlights but not his full speech. Thanks. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course Sam was forming a conjecture (and a rather > mean-spirited one at > that) on Carter's potential actions while Larry was > pointing up facts > concerning his actual actions. Yes, I get very angry when I here people praise Carter. It's one of my w

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
Trend: Favor US-led War on Terrorism US 81% Britain 63% France 50% Germany 55% Russia 73% Turkey 37% Pakistan 16% Jordan 12% Morocco 28% Here's how four of the nine countries feel about us. Suicide Bombings Justifiable? Against Israel Turkey 24% Pakistan 47% Morocco 74% Jordan 86% Against the U

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
I don't remember ever saying anything like that. -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You keep harping on how disloyal it is to be against > the Shrubbery. > > Patriotism != support for the current > administration. > > larry > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:29:49 -0700 (PDT), Sam Mo

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2004-07-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I used to teach classes on intro stats. There was always a section on the misuse of stats. I've consulted for companies on survey design and analysis. I think that I may know a little bit about the topic. Reputable firms and organizations always publish the poll questions. They also include the me

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2004-07-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You keep harping on how disloyal it is to be against the Shrubbery. Patriotism != support for the current administration. larry On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:29:49 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What on earth are you talking about > > How does me responce relate to any of thi

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
Take a class called lying with statistics. OK, maybe saying they are NEVER accurate isn't correct. Most polls can be read to say whatever you want them to. I rarley see one that's not misleading. Just look at the questions asked when they're published. They usually force an answer they want. -sm

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
What on earth are you talking about How does me responce relate to any of this??? You lost me. -sm --- "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam's responses reminds me of the former Republican > presidentTheodore > Rooseveldt's quote in 1918: > > To announce that there must be no c

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I fail to see why the polls you cite are evidence of > bias. They show > you to be in a minority :) but that doesn't mean > they are biased. They seem to cater to the liberals so naturally I'm going to think they're skewed. > Now > there *is* a litt

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2004-07-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:29 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: DNC   To allow everyone to be arguing from on same footings here's the link   to the poll in question   http://www.pewtrusts.com/pdf/pew_global_attitudes_year_war_031604.pdf   But without copying the numbers down, in the last 3

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2004-07-27 Thread Jim Davis
wing for a purely majority vote. Jim Davis From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: DNC Two cents in on this one... I think that the idea behind the electoral College is still a valid one - it ensures that every state participa

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2004-07-27 Thread Jim Davis
unity Subject: Re: DNC What about the argument that sparsely populated states will lose their voice if you do away with the electoral college though? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

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2004-07-27 Thread Matthew Small
:04 PM   Subject: Re: DNC   The rational is that the more people that vote, the better the chance of   choosing Electors (delegates to the Electoral College) that will vote according   to the majority's wishes.     - Original Message -     From: Jim Davis     While I agree wit

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2004-07-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam's responses reminds me of the former Republican presidentTheodore Rooseveldt's quote in 1918: To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American

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2004-07-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Say what. And what do you base this on? I know a little bit about statistics, survey taking and design, and that is an astonishing piece of ignornace. You simply don't know what you are talking about. larry On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:38:28 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Polls a

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2004-07-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It isn't just Canada that dislikes Bush. To quote from last March's survey, In that regard, opinions of both President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair are negative. Large majorities in every country, except for the U.S., hold an unfavorable opinion of Bush. Blair is rated favorably only

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
4 21:28:47 -0400 Subject: Re: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To allow everyone to be arguing from on same footings here's the link to the poll in question http://www.pewtrusts.com/pdf/pew_global_attitudes_year_war_031604.pdf But without copying the numbers down, in the las

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2004-07-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
To allow everyone to be arguing from on same footings here's the link to the poll in question http://www.pewtrusts.com/pdf/pew_global_attitudes_year_war_031604.pdf But without copying the numbers down, in the last 3 years on the average in the middle east  the overall attitudes towards the US wen

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2004-07-27 Thread Doug White
r of electoral votes would be cast by   Massachusetts.   In truth every single vote just doesn't matter (at least in a presidential   election).   Jim Davis   From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:01 PM   To: CF-Community   Subject: Re: DNC   Gore did mak

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
What about the argument that sparsely populated states will lose their voice if you do away with the electoral college though? Dana - Original Message - From: Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:51:37 -0400 Subject: RE: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTE

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2004-07-27 Thread Jim Davis
vis From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:30 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: DNC yeah but... look at all the states that were won or lost by a few hundred votes last time. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
I fail to see why the polls you cite are evidence of bias. They show you to be in a minority :) but that doesn't mean they are biased. Now there *is* a little thing called a margin of error, which allowed different media to simultaneously say Bush was ahead and Kerry was ahead this week... but this

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
I agree and that's how the system works. US is not a democracy it's a republic. I think has to do with Socrates. Didn't he say something to the extent that the problem with democracy is the common citizen doesn't know enough about politics to choose leader? Got him killed too:) But based on that

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2004-07-27 Thread Jim Davis
Jim Davis From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:32 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: DNC Yeah he was a good president for his time... But as he said: What would Carter have done after 9/11 if he were president? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [F

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
yeah but... look at all the states that were won or lost by a few hundred votes last time. Dana - Original Message - From: Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:23:42 -0400 Subject: RE: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> While I agree with the sentime

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok... I don't want to seem like a prima donna that > is saying everyone > has  to read my posts. But if I take the time to > take a look at the > "evidence" for something you are saying and tell you > it is wrong, it's > a bit discouraging to find you s

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2004-07-27 Thread Jim Davis
l 15-30%.  Well, so what?  The exact same number of electoral votes would be cast by Massachusetts. In truth every single vote just doesn't matter (at least in a presidential election). Jim Davis From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:01 PM To: CF-Commun

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2004-07-27 Thread Jim Davis
12:03 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: DNC Except that he won. I'd probably be somewhat irked if I were in his shoes. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
portunity. It is belief in the individual and wide open spaces and reinvention and innovation. George Bush stands for none of that and is a danger to all of it. Geeez. Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:38:28 -0700 (PDT)

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
error may be the third most frequent cause of death...now THAT is scary. And by the way Andy, I have enjoyed my discussions with you too, the L word to the contrary :) Dana - Original Message - From: Andy Ousterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:22:04 -0500 Subje

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sam. I answered you on the Canadian thing. If you > actually click the > link it says *45* percent of *children* in Canada > think the US is > evil. > > 80 != 45 > Children != voters or even adults That was two seperate polls. I told you It was on TV

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2004-07-27 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Sam, While there are plenty of folk out there who resemble your remark, I don't believe that Dana is one of them. >From my perspective, while she is liberal, she tends to argue based off of facts.  I've always enjoyed my "discussions" with her even though we didn't always agree.  I do believe we f

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
x27;s the Washington Post or the NY Times that needs correction :) From Rush Limbaugh no doubt :) Dana - Original Message - From: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- dana tierney

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boy :) Sam, the number of times I have looked at one > of your links and > come back and said yanno, this is not at all > relevant to what you are > saying, or refuted some poisonous right-wing > argument Poisonous right-wing argument? Don't you get it?

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
Boy :) Sam, the number of times I have looked at one of your links and come back and said yanno, this is not at all relevant to what you are saying, or refuted some poisonous right-wing argument (ie Canadians don't want "American-style" health care therefore 85% of them are anti-American) I find it

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- Marwan Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the interests of debate, answers inline... > > -Original Message- > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:56 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: DNC > > > --- Ma

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gee, another Republican that is upset when someone > points out that the > election system was corrupted to let a Republican > win. Again. > Are you saying the Electoral College is a corrupt system or do you still think Gore won Florida? -sm > So sad

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
AIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:52:09 -0500 Subject: Re: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Where Gore's beef SHOULD be is at the electoral college. Its far outlived its usefulness. The founding fathers basically inserted it as a hedge against the possibility th

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2004-07-27 Thread dana tierney
yes, I have always liked Jimmy Carter. He's a good man. Too bad he could not resolve the hostage crisis better. Dana - Original Message - From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:38:24 -0500 Subject: Re: DNC To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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2004-07-27 Thread Kevin Graeme
Gee, another Republican that is upset when someone points out that the election system was corrupted to let a Republican win. Again. So sad. -Kevin On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:54:57 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds like Al Gore never got over the fact that he > lost. > > S

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2004-07-27 Thread G
.   - Original Message -   From: Sam Morris   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:43 PM   Subject: Re: DNC   Thank you for the tip.   Now erad it for yourself. Only nine countries involved   and it was done in March.   Now that the US and British reports are out proving   the war was

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
Thank you for the tip. Now erad it for yourself. Only nine countries involved and it was done in March. Now that the US and British reports are out proving the war was justified the results should change. the countries: US Britain France Germany Russia Turkey Morocco Jordan Pakistan Check the sec

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2004-07-27 Thread Marwan Saidi
In the interests of debate, answers inline... -Original Message- From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:56 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: DNC --- Marwan Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not to mention winning a small internatio

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2004-07-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'd suggest that you get assessed for reading comprehension. You've obviously have some significant deficiencies in that area. On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:02:56 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I read the Pew Report and your numbers are all wrong. > It's mainly about supprt for the

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
--- Marwan Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not to mention winning a small international award. >   >   > The Nobel Peace Prize in 2002. Perhaps you've heard > of it Sam? Or did he > just get that for apologizing to everyone? You know damn well that was a slap at Bush for ousting Hussein. > Yo

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2004-07-27 Thread Sam Morris
u look like a > blithering toon. Sorry, > that's just the way I feel. >   > Marwan > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:25 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: DNC > > > C

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2004-07-27 Thread Marwan Saidi
Fair enough, although I (personally) would not lump Sadat in with the others in your "B" list... -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:41 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: DNC I dunno about that award. Past winners include Mandela

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2004-07-27 Thread G
make peace now". I think Carter's award was legit, but that doesn't seem to always be the case.   - Original Message -   From: Marwan Saidi   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:24 PM   Subject: RE: DNC   Not to mention winning a small international award.

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2004-07-27 Thread Marwan Saidi
uesday, July 27, 2004 1:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: DNC Carter a lunatic. Don't know what you've been smoking but you should share. Lets see what's been done in comparison post presidential term, Reagan, potted plant Ford, tripping over golf clubs Bush - a lot of corporate

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2004-07-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
ha - yeah, good episode :)   - Original Message -   From: John Stanley   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:13 PM   Subject: RE: DNC   and carter helped Hank Hill and his father come to terms somewhat in King of   the Hill [Todays Threads] [This Message

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2004-07-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Yeah, true.  That was a toughie...   - Original Message -   From: G   To: CF-Community   Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 2:08 PM   Subject: Re: DNC   That had to be infinitely easier than explaining the events of 9/11/01 though :/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription

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